largest car vandalism reported in Canada… so far.
Tesla could solve most of their problems by firing Musk. Any other public company whose CEO makes a very public Nazi salute would fire that CEO.
Yes, he’d still be a large shareholder, but I think simply getting him out of the company would give a lot of people the sense that he faced some personal consequences for his actions, and that any companies who deal with Musk will also face consequences.
Exactly, Musk needs to go. Even apart from his abhorrent behaviour this dude supposedly has so many jobs, how can he possibly be doing them all to a reasonable standard let alone one deserving of his insane compensation.
Id rather just see Tesla burn to the ground.
It won’t… they will bail it ot with taxpayer money. Like it or not every US citizen will buy some Telsa stock (but never own it). Capitalism for thee, but communism for me if the business fails.
Good, let the USA burn their money and tank their economy bailing out a company nobody would buy a car from
We should give Elon more billions as an interim bonus instead.
-The Tesla board, probably
The companies board and senior leadership are his family and loyalists, therefore the company is fascist and should be destroyed, regardless of Space Karens involvement.
I wonder how much money firing him would cost. The initial pay package was a stupid $56 billion. They’d probably have to pay pretty much that amount, and then hire a new CEO still.
Even after losing 50% of their value their market cap is still ~750 billion. They’re still valued at nearly 3x what Toyota is, and leagues above any other auto manufacturer. Their investors won’t do anything until they lose way more value, sadly.
And ending production of the Swastitruk would help.
Yes, he’d still be a large shareholder, but I think simply getting him out of the company would give a lot of people the sense that he faced some personal consequences for his actions
On one hand, that might indeed satisfy a lot of the public. On the other hand, we ought to consider that a bad outcome because the real goal should be to tank TSLA to the point that Musk’s holdings no longer suffice as collateral and he’s forced to sell Xitter.
He would need to get rid of his stock before I even consider buying from any of his companies’ products.
Not getting starlink for my van. I guess I’ll have to stick close to cell towers on work days.
The board is filled with family and close friends. They’ll protect him as long as possible.
They’ll lose the ship to save one expendable captain.
If they’re so determined to protect their Nazi captain, perhaps they deserve to lose the ship.
Tesla could solve most of their problems by firing Musk.
They could have done this a LONG time ago… now the damage is done. Nobody would care he is no longer CEO (although that may help Tesla develop better cars), people are not going to want to drive a Swasticar anyway nor give money to a literal Nazi
Short of selling all his stock and completely disappearing from the public eye, Musk completely destroyed Tesla. There are simply better options that do not include helping/associating with a Nazi
Yes, he’d still be a large shareholder
If they fire him, he would sell. This would tank the stock value.
They’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t.
The stovk price is also all vibes based around him.
Edit: he wouldn’t sell, though. He couldn’t sell that much. He also has a bunch of loans leveraged against his stock aa collateral. Those collapse if the stock price collapses.
- Large shareholders can’t just sell. There are rules to prevent stock manipulation
- He’d be the first victim of tanking the stock. Not in his best interest
- He can’t sell any shares used for collateral
I wonder what the insurance premium on a Tesla is these days?
The damage included “deep scratches and punctured tires.”
Probably about the same as any other car.
No, my 2019 model 3 is almost twice as expensive as my son’s 2023 Prius.
I’d imagine that they’ll be more expensive to insure in the future if they are getting targeted en masse.
If red cars are more expensive to insure, a tesla has to be more expensive too, right?
Didn’t trump say he would concider the vandalism towards teslas a form of terrorism? And hasn’t the usa used terrorism as a way to forcefully enter countries in order to "fight terrorism "? What if these acts have been performed by agents from the US to give the government an excuse to invade?..I’m also very stoned right now.
Even a stoner off their rocks can see through this. Your 10/10 high is smarter than the average Republican.
Demonstrates to the American electorate that democrats celebrate and encourage criminal behavior. How does this help you win elections? Do you think an independent looks at this situation and thinks “Yes these are the people I want to be in charge.” So shortsighted and childish.
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As opposed to republicans that elected a 34 count felon, court-certified rapist, pedophile president? Party of law and order, am I right? Be glad that it’s shitty, overpriced EVs they’re targeting.
There is a different view to your statement. We live in a democracy and we had an election where the citizens chose a felon, Nazi, dictator over your side. They would rather have a court certified rapist in charge than you. Just think about that and understand how repulsive and out of touch you have to be for that to happen. This effort to destroy Tesla is only hurting your cause. It is counterproductive, childish, and small. It’s almost like you want MAGA to win the next election.
We live in a democracy
Do you?
It’s almost like you want MAGA to win the next election.
Assuming there is one
Yes the next election will be in 2026. This is why people question your ability to interpret reality.
Sorry, not American.
In any case I hope I’m wrong
We dibt live in one anymore.
Republicans won because of voter suppression and purging. What you’re saying is “Pants on fire” rewriting of history. Also Jan6ers were much, much more violent so I think Democrats are simply trying out their fascism strategy.
Vandalizing Teslas is legal, the precedent was set when Jan6ers were pardoned. So your morality argument is wrong too.
If you need to tell yourself that “they cheated” then you are doing exactly what Republicans did in 2020 making you just like them. Yes the Jan6ers were pardoned but most people do not support it and believe those people should be in prison. Just like the people fire bombing tesla dealerships and charging stations should be in prison.
A strawman, Republicans claimed election fraud (2 + 2 = 5), Democrats claimed voter suppression disproportionately affects them (2 + 2 = 4). What do you think 2 + 2 = ?
You think that violent insurrection against our country by storming the capitol is the same as vandalizing a few cars? How long do you think the sentences should be for each crime? I’d say one is 100x the sentence of the other.
Firebombing car dealerships, charging stations, and violent attacks against people who drive Teslas isn’t “vandalization” . 90,000,000 eligible voters didnt vote by choice. They are vocal on why they didn’t vote and it’s not voter suppression. Keep lying to yourself if you want or just go read about the reasons. It’s not a secret.
There are many reasons for an election win or loss. But the big one we care about in 2024 was widespread purging. It’s quasilegal, there’s evidence of it, it’s cheating, and it suppresses Democrat votes much more.
There were 7 billion people who didn’t immigrate into the US and thus didn’t vote, they were very clear as to why they didn’t come to America. That’s just as relevant as your 90 million, actually more because it’s 100x the people! Don’t get me started on extraterrestrials we didn’t find, there could be trillions. It was clear the reasons we didn’t fund SETI.
“Vandalizing isn’t vandalizing”. You made no argument here.
Nah, that election was rigged. Try again, Nazi.
You have encountered a magat in the wild. Do not engage.
It’s the nazi in the bar story. Gotta call them out and shut them down early, or else they take over the place like they do on reddit.
You speak as though Chuck Schumer did this? In Canada?
Guess they didn’t get the memo that we’re not actually the 51st State.
This was in Canada, you doorknob.
You sound like a conservative plant lamenting the so-called peaceful liberals, you’ve been sold a lie
Why would i be a conservative plant? I think America needs two viable political parties and presently one party cannot compete. Their interpretation of reality is questionable making them repulsive to normal people, which is why they won’t vote for you.
Why are you trying to frame it as a Democrat versus Republican thing both sides can have equal amounts of grievances with the shit ass state ofthe fucking presidency right now
It is obviously liberal burning down charging stations, spray painting swastikas, and throwing molotov cocktails. With Democrat politicians celebrating and encouraging the behavior. Im not framing it’s reality.
Bingo.
Keep up the good work, brothers!
At this point it is most likely that it’s the dealerships themselves trying to burn these for the insurance.
Tesla’s aren’t selling?
- Set them on fire.
- Claim that it’s arson.
- File insurance claim.
- Profit.
I don’t hear Alex Jones screaming about inside jobs.
Probably because he’s way too far up EMu’s ass.
He’s still around? Whatever happened to people knowing when to call it quits and leave everyone’s lives… I swear, ever since the 2000’s and onward people just kind of stick around forever now. Guess that’s another awful side effect of the internet.
He sure is and I hear you! It’s unbelievable how cringy his show is now.
One of my favorite podcasts where they spend an ungodly amount of time dissecting his horseshit and laughing at him.
Such a great podcast! Absolute Talmudic in its thoroughness.
‘Know Rogan’ is a pretty good new addition if you haven’t checked it out yet.
I’ll check it out!
I count myself among the lucky who has never heard that overgrown thumb talk for longer than a sound bite.
Upvote for Knowledge Fight!
I used to listen to Alex Jones for fun way before he was big. It was genuinely entertaining. Then Sandyhook happened and it wasn’t so funny anymore.
Knowledge Fight is like finding friends to make fun of Alex Jones with :)
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Whoa, sorry, don’t know what came over me there.
Probably. Unfortunately side effect is it constantly reinforce in people, “wow people really hate teslas” and further damaging the brand. I find it hard to believe Canadians would due this kind of a thing. Not that they couldn’t, i just have a hard time believing it.
I mean if they are the ones setting them on fire they don’t need to claim it is arson since it is. They just need to claim they weren’t the arsonists.
Tesla doesn’t have dealerships. All sales centers are corporate owned.
I don’t think that bit of syntax changes the point at all.
It does. A dealership is an independent entity. If cars were purposely being damaged, it would be Tesla doing that and not another company that sells Tesla vehicles.
The corporate structure is not what the grandparent is referring to, it’s committing arson to defraud insurance that he’s really referring to. Any other “aKsHuALlY” details you added are distinctions without difference.
There is a huge difference between an independently owned franchise committing arson vs the manufacturer.
Make their insurance super high.
The dealership has insurance and destroyed cars are like sold cars for Te… that company. Or am I missing something?
Couple of claims by a dealership and their insurance will get cancelled.
Big thing is that people now know Telsa’s are not just sold by a loon, they’re a vandalism target. Which is two pretty big reasons no to buy a car from Musk.
Even if you like Musk, do you want to have high insurance rates and spend time at the body shop?
and spend time at the body shop?
Fun fact: not only do Cybertrucks have bare stainless steel body panels, which are extremely difficult and expensive to repair because you have to bodywork them perfect since you can’t use body filler, they have a frame made out of aluminum, which for various metallurgical reasons (work-hardening, forming a passivation layer that makes it much harder to weld, etc.) is also very difficult and expensive to repair.
In that sense, you’re probably less likely to spend time at the body shop with a Cybertruck because it’s designed to be damn near disposable.
Although, since most people seem to be keying, spray painting, and putting stickers on these cars, the stainless is very easy to clean. Just rub some steel wool in the direction of the stainless grain. Apparently they don’t have any clear coat. You can clean them like an industrial stovetop.
Yeah, the damage would have to physically displace (i.e. dent) or chemically corrode the surface of the panel in order to be difficult to fix.
Does burning count as any of these, by any chance?
Yes. High heat can cause the metal to corrode faster or even melt. (And, ya know, completely destroy the rest of the car.)
Does Tesla use dealerships in Canada? In the U.S., they don’t. They have showrooms owned by the company itself and you order online. My state requires dealerships1 and just have service centers here.
1 It’s a wildly antiquated law. When cars first came out, states passed laws requiring dealerships to guarantee the car companies could service the vehicles. Those laws are still on the books basically because car dealership owners are generally rich people who buy state legislatures. (And there’s a shocking amount who are state legislators.)
Tesla does not have dealerships.
Insurance companies are now talking about canceling Tesla coverage because of the high risk of vandalism, so it’s making people (including dealerships) rethink their options.
So it’s working.
Yes.
Destroyed cars?
The damage included “deep scratches and punctured tires.”
From the article. A quick polish and a time swap and they’re as good as new.
It’s believed to be the largest vandalism in Canada against vehicles from the U.S.-based car company.
This strikes me as an odd qualifier.
Have there been larger vandalism incidents in Canada against vehicles from companies based in countries outsides the states?
Not larger no, that’s what they are saying… I get you though but no… Had there been similar or close to this? Dunno … This language is just coming from the US admin to make it seem like an attack the us. Rather than on Elon musk himself and his values and actions, which it is.
Maybe your question should have been ‘have there been ANY’ valdalism incidents… Before now
It’s very sad that people care more about the feelings of cars than the feelings of people. Cars fucking suck. Cars are tools of oppression.
It’s not about the cars. It’s about what a powerful billionaire is doing to people.
Targeting the cars is just a way to discourage Telsa ownership, tank the stock, and give Musk less power and leverage. A lot of his power comes from his ability to borrow against Tesla.
For the past 100 years car dependency has been the sole reason for the destruction of the working class. Henry Ford the Nazi, combined with conspirators in the US government, bulldozed low income neighborhoods to build highways and create suburban utopias for rich white folk.
Car dependency is a disease which needs to be cured.
Ok, but the point still remains. This vandalism isn’t about the cars. It’s about taking money out of a billionaire’s pocket. People would be vandalizing Starlink satellites if they could reach them.
It’s not about the cars, the cars and stores are just an accessible target. This is about Musk and DOGE.
People would be vandalizing Starlink satellites if they could reach them.
Hold my beer. *picks up rock
Don’t even get me started on how car companies bought those lovely trams just to dismantle them afterwards
The feelings of cars…?
Precisely
Is it though?
those are rookie numbers, we can do better!
oh no.
Anyway…
Those are rookie numbers, we need to get them higher!
I read something earlier in the week about a tesla dealership being vandalised here in N Ireland. Might be a worldwide thing.
Antifa, perhaps the greatest threat to Nazi automobile manufacturers the world has ever known.
I doubt antifa would control anything in Belfast (every video I’ve seen of them was them causing trouble and getting absolutely battered in response) Belfast isn’t shy on psychopaths and likely never will be.
So yeah I doubt antifa has the slightest bit of influence here.
