- Disney shareholders rejected anti-DEI proposal on Thursday.
- A conservative think tank proposed that Disney stop participating in the Corporate Equality Index.
- Shareholders for Apple and Costco previously rejected similar proposals.
Disney wants as many customers as possible and doesn’t care about temporary optics based on hard right politics. Don’t mistake them for the good guys. Megacorps that buy up everything in sight and use their ridiculous piles of money to exert influence over politics are the core of the problem.
Guess why copyright laws in the US kept adding decades and decades to copyright protection from the death of the creator. HINT: Megacorp money controlling laws may have been involved.
Especially Disney with their past…
While most of that is true, they actually did let the Mickey Mouse copyright expire, and Mickey as portrayed in Steamboat Willie is now public domain.
But instead they’re using trademark. There’s a reason they’ve started using Steamboat Willie in an animated logo.
I’ve got a love/hate thing with Disney. Like…enemy-of-my-enemy-enemy kind of thing.
I do love when they stick it to DeSantis.
But I still ain’t going to FL anytime soon. We did Disney in 2022 and I think that’s probably near the end of when FL was tolerable (in small doses) for sane people.
DISNEY resumed thier donations to florida after the desantis/florida spat.
Like all corporations, Disney is a mercenary. Their allegiance lies with whoever puts the bigger number on their cheque.
If MAGA is going to get in the way of Disney trying to make money, I’m more than happy to let Disney fight that battle and waste some cycles
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It’s also about how much power Trump has though.
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My friend, have you not been paying attention? Trump doesn’t give a shit about any of that. He’s burning all the bridges to “eradicate woke”.
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Imagine if tomorrow they decided to stop DEI for good
I wonder if they could point towards their secession when handling that. Technically Disneyland and world aren’t part of America, but they’re not recognized as sovereign states by any country so they might have a hard time really putting that fight up
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Look into “Company towns” a bit. It could be done right, but putting that into the hands of the current oligarchs would be a spell for destruction
But I like your sentiment. I actually am planning to start a non-profit apartment complex and I’m trying to get my employer to be a primary investor. I plan on offering them a temporary exclusivity deal if they’ll let me build close enough to where we work but I’ll have to look into the laws about that. Exclusivity deals are a lil weird around housing, might not actually be able to offer that
You are right, but also, I think it’s okay to take the small victories where they are. They shouldn’t have to be applauded for doing the bare minimum, but when this bare minimum is a big middle finger to the administration I’ll look the other way
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I agree, but in the right circumstances. Posting it here in the comment section is one thing, we’re discussing their actions. But some people (not you, necessarily) will take it a step further and go bully a company when they take a good step because the step wasn’t big/good enough. We gotta positively reinforce good behavior
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They saw what happened to Target stocks after the boycott and said fuck that.
Boycotts do work, keep it up
They … rejected … anti-DEI … making them … pro-DEI … and anti-Trump? Am I getting that right? Sorry, there are just getting to be a lot of double-negatives these days it’s hard to keep track.
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you’re not wrong
Nah, keep with the times!
He isn’t not right!I think you meant to say he isn’t not unwrong
Neither of you are incorrect.
I don’t disagree
This thread hurts my brain.
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I ain’t not gonna not believe that.
Call of what if is and it becomes more clear.
DEI is diversity equity and inclusion. You know, inclusion of racial minorities, disabled people, and women in historically male dominated roles.
Disneys board rejected enacting a Trump inspired policy of racism, sexism, and general bigotry.
Shareholders in a company whose entire business is around being well liked globally thinks it would be a bad business move to cancel a program that is part of a good public image in favor of placating a relatively small chunk of Americans that would both be paying attention and against DEI.
They could still be pro-Trump, and not really caring about DEI, but they know the value of optics in the context of a company like Disney.
The most accurate takeaway is that the shareholders wish for Disney to continue participating in Diversity Equity and Inclusion measures.
The enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend.
As someone who actually works on real stuff, it’s insane to me that for some people, they go to work and have high-level conversations revolving around things such as this.
Oh how benevolent of them 🙄
Nah, fuck disney. Won’t forget their “say no gay” policy. Also, a lot of their “woke” coded content is awful. It feels written by inexperienced writers. It’s not genuine and comes across as pandering.
Like damn bro. Timon and Pumba were gay, social outcasts and raised a child together. That shit felt real. Not the stereotype gay l, but just normal… well “normal” characters.
The new stuff doesn’t seem to have that. To the point that it feels as though they wanted their work to flop on it.
Kinda has that vibe Sandy from Spongebob had. At first, she was just a normal whacky character. Then Nickelodeon wanted more girl representation and Sandy became pretty much flawless. She wasn’t the butt of the joke anymore, while the other characters stayed that way. It made her seem less part of the gang. Unequal to the rest. She became unfun.
So many of the female characters seem flawless and yet unlikable. From star wars series, to the new disney movies. Where is our Katara from Avatar? Where is our Valerie from Danny Phantom? Where are the characters with character?
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They also slept together.
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Maybe that’s because “DEI” has become code for “anything done by minorities” and “woke” now means “minorities.” With minorites here meaning “not white heterosexual men.” Also cis but these snowflakes can’t even accept that cisgender is a technical term.
Efficiency means monopoly
So Disney hasn’t learned a damn thing. Got it.
Average .ml take
.ml aka “totally not vladposting nazis in disguise”
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Ok so what part of diversity, equity or inclusion do you specifically dislike?
Uhhh, none. You idiot. Disney doesn’t actually care about DEI.
So why’d you say Disney didn’t learn anything?
Because they keep making stuff that nobody wants, insult the fans constantly and never learn from their mistakes.
So why bring it up when people are talking about DEI?
It does not even make sense for Disney to be anti-DEI if their target audience is the entire world!
How does that follow? Do you think most of the world is pro-DEI?
anti-DEI is pretty much code for “only white straight cisgendered males welcome”. Whatever criticisms may make sense against select DEI initiatives, the anti-DEI move by the government basically involved erasing all acknowledgement of any minority or woman ever being honored for accomplishments, no matter how obviously well earned the honor was.
On a global perspective, the American flavor of “anti-DEI” panders to a relatively small group of folks at the expense of offending the vast majority of the world’s population.
Ok, but how does this like vibe with a country like China, which demands that Disney and other western media companies censor LGBT things all the time?
What does DEI mean in respect to Disney, does it just mean changing existing characters to their non-white equivalent?
It means not making films only about white christian men.
I think they mean that, by definition, the entire world is diverse
Humanity is diverse, but there is a tendency to hate on those different to us, since time immemorial.
Which does not mean that other societies haven’t confronted their issues with racism
From my perception, people do not necessarily hate others who are different, but hates it when there are “too many foreigners”.
DEI= Diversity, equity, inclusion you might be surprised to discover all three of those are of varying import to various societies.
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Unfortunately the Trump admin want them to behave a certain way, and anything different is seen as them being mean, apparently.
Looking forward to that “Failing Disney and nasty, perverted Mickey Mouse, going around in shorts” post on Truth Social. If there’s one corporation that might even take Donnie down it’s Disney. Kinda like Kong vs Dumbzilla
No suprise there. A large portion of Disney’s viewers are girls and minorities. You know, those dreaded DEI folk.
and disney also have “virtue signalling” for LGBTQ+ for a couple decades already. harder to divorce from that. ALso children is thier money maker too.
Well yeah they learned that more than just little white girls like their movies. Look at the animated Disney/Pixar feature films, so much more than it was in the pre- renaissance era.
Even during the Renaissance …we had Pocahontas and Mulan and Jasmine…but these people were more like phoned-in representatives of their cultures compared to now.
Look at Encanto, or Moana/Viana. Or Coco. Or even Soul.
Hell, Strange World features a mixed race family with a queer son and a three-legged dog.
And the movies are better for it. They are more relatable because they aren’t all some xeroxed copy of the same plain princess with a slightly different tint. And more importantly, they are showing their young and impressionable viewers a cast that reflects reality. That not every family is a carbon-copy “traditional” family. That different cultures exist and yeah, live a bit differently than suburban white folk (who live a shockingly similar life to the Sultan of Agrabah).
youtube videos of disney cinema is infested with these “anti-woke comments” its really not for conservatives anyways. like how the recent snow white movie is being spammed all over youtube with anti-woke twist. they trying very hard to get people to hate disney and using the actor as thier anchor.
Just 1% of shareholders voted to approve the proposal
1% of shareholders, or the holders of 1% of shares?
This is a great fuckin question and one that’s probably more important than we realize
And an easy question to answer - 1% of shares. All businesses weigh shareholder votes by number of shares held.
Not all companies do that. It is possible to make dual class voting, where some shareholders shares have more votes than others. For instance Google, Meta, Ford, Warren.
Yeah, but those systems still don’t count votes by “number of shareholders” as indicated above. They’re still weighted by number of shares, just some shares have more benefits than others
The class offered to the general public often has limited or no voting rights, while the class available to founders and executives has more voting power and often provides for majority control of the company.
Lots of media worried about upsetting the King of America with their reporting
Fuck this shit, now I gotta be pro Disney too? I’d gotten so used to hating them. They grew on me a little back when they stood up against DeSantis in Florida too.
I miss the days when we could just love/hate corporations based on their business practices instead of culture war bullshit.
They have met their fundamental duty as an organization led by human beings who can and should be held to moral standards.
I despise their behavior with copyright but here they’ve earned the right to not get the “caved to fascists” boycott
Is it a boycott if you just refuse to buy from a company because all of their products are shit?
It’s a shame that it’s only the companies with more money than God that feel comfortable standing up for their values. The Felon will attack anyone who disagrees with them, and while everyone gets mad about nobody standing up to him - that’s not exactly a zero risk scenario for most. But for these hundred billion and trillion dollar companies, they know they can defend themselves just fine.
This is like rooting for the villain. Ok, whatever … Disney is cool again.
They’re still a massive company that’s way bigger than it should be and could be considered a monopoly.
Their brand of diversity is some bs anyways so you don’t have to be pro Disney.
Remember, they gladly took help from a Chinese concentration camp to make their girl boss Mulan remake.
They also fired all their park workers during covid and gave themselves 10 million bonuses while their workers were surviving on food stamps. Some workers had even signed non compete clauses so they literally could not use their talents elsewhere to feed themselves.
Further more, Disneys current version of DEI is divisive, soulless and insincere.
It isn’t a black or white situation. You can hate Disney AND MAGA. To me, they are all two sides of the same rotten coin. Ruthless, selfish and greedy people who use others to get ahead and pull the ladder up after themselves.
they also began to renege on thier “Dei” i think for a show they removed the lgbtq+ person and including a " persecuted christian in the mix". additionally they started public resumed donation to desantis and GOP in florida when all the news blew over.
Oh, they have done shit like that for years. Removing black actors from their movie posters when sending their films to places like China, removing all LGBT stuff from their oh so diverse remakes when sending them to countries that dislike gay stuff.
They are so fake.
one thing i do notice they never touch christians though, most people watching disneys arent christians, its just to get them from not complaining about Disney. SPN was one show that have to astroturf with christianty is the one true religion" and disrepecting other dieties/mythology.
I mean, Disney is still evil. They probably saw how much Target fucked up and don’t want to make the same mistake.
There’s more money in appealing to everyone instead of just white evangelicals Americans.
It’s almost like there were nuances to almost everything instead of the world being neatly divisible into good and bad.
They will role ever sooner or later. Fuck them, never stop hating.
I miss boycotting Disney because some prude thought she saw sex hidden in dust in the Lion King.
The kooky, fun kind of crazy we can all share a laugh at
While the Rescuers 2 had an actual naked woman in it.
None of these companies actually care. They will go woke until it sends them broke.
Tesla is woke?
Who said anything about Tesla?
Tesla is going broke, so, according to you, Tesla became woke, right?
How the hell did you draw that kind of logic, are you ok dude? 😂
It’s always more complicated than the binary. Disney might be getting DEI but still forces creators to censor out any LGBT references in their shows, or cancel them if they do them anyway. They still are anti union and work people to the bone.
If you want it simple, no corporation is your friend, ever. They are there simply to take your money, without regard for scruples, and any form of morality they seem to be acting on is either because it will make them more money or it is illegal and not cost effective to break the law.
It’s still a good sign the shareholders have some sense in this specific case, but make no mistake, Disney doesn’t care about anything other than money.
“I guess you forgot whose really in charge,” said Mickey.
