Why are most people here are negative and rude?
Just to be clear here, I am not talking about instance, rather I am asking about the whole community.
There is no one I seen here who even had expressed any passion towards anything really.
I cannot understand how did that happen?
Okay, there are three reasons why this is:
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Anonymity grants people the ability to be assholes.
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You’ve done something or said something that was going to get people riled up over.
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People from rejected instances, sites .etc come here to carry over their shitty nature.
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You’ll have to be more specific. I’m not seeing any unusual amount of negativity.
What’s that thing about expressing any passion? What do you mean by that?
Go to any political post. Everyone is calling others names and it’s not productive at all.
Yep, most smaller communities on Lemmy are awesome. Political communities are terrible and the people who are mad at ya in those, will follow you to non-political communities just to downvote and harrass. It’s toxic.
But that’s humans? It’s always been like that, everywhere at all times. The only thing that’s changed, maybe, is that Lemmy is growing and there’s more discussion in general so of course the absolute number of things that cause name-calling has grown too, just like the absolute number of things that don’t.
That’s not true. Go to youtube and read the comments under any lofi video but that’s just one example. When Lemmy just started it was a place for people to escape the fanatics and now it’s becoming more toxic.
And that’s Youtube, an entirely different place that isn’t the topic of discussion here and that’s ALSO always been Like That. Never Look At The Comments is received wisdom.
More people more drama. I rarely see rudeness in my experience
We’re negative doomscrollers, true. But most people seem pretty polite, at least in my experience.
Your right about the doom scrollers part. Everyone on Lemmy atleast on the larger subs are always negative. Politics are dominating the main subs and explore page. It’s such a turn off. Politics needs to generally stay out if the lime light. Instead of doom posts thrown in your face. Non stop.
We all have our reasons for being here. The politics is definitely depressing, but it’s something a lot of Lemmites have in common.
You’re right that it’d be nice if there was more going on.
I can be negative. But I love people and want the best for everyone. What I don’t like are the toxic systems of control that some people are under, and some people follow. Aand sometimes I can be swept up in the injustice, and lose my patience with extreme followers.
I apologise in advance to this community if I make someone’s mood worse, instead of better. I can often fail, and yet we should all strive to be a healthy member of the communities we inhabit!
What communities are you frequenting?
The ones I sub and post to have been nice.
Same here
Really?
My theory is that for-profit social media companies push conflict and controversy because it increases “engagement.” So, people are conditioned to be hostile and hiss like a cat at the first sign of disagreement (real or imagined). Lemmy, obviously, has different incentives.
It’s happening on Mastodon and BlueSky too. I try to respond with kindness and sincerity. (I don’t always succeed. I kind of suck at it, to be honest. But if we all even can halfass human decency, it’ll be better than most of the internet.)
+1 ! Need to work on my morning Lemmy scrolling… Grumpy as fuck and not being nice to people sucks :// !
Please also report people being rude, that’s a temp ban here.
ehhh i wouldn’t it way to start and angry mob and sometimes i dont trust mods descension. since even servers with no rules will make up reasons for a ban
Find the best available option? Or start your own server with no rules and attract others who want no rules?
I think a good community would have restrictions to avoid unnecessary hate
What’s with all the downvotes? I swear there has to be vote manipulation going on with some of these threads.
It’s probably a downstream effect of the souring mood in the United States as the consequences of the current administration and our slide into fascism become increasingly apparent. Can’t speak for the rest of the world, but it’s hard to believe things are getting better out there.
I feel like casual rudeness and insults have become more common as more people have come over from Reddit.
God damet, redditors ruining a nice thing again :(
The first few waves of people are going to be the asshats that got banned for one thing or another. Some good people, mostly bad apples.
i noticed that too. i chalk it up to people are always seeking approval and they want to tell express to everyone how the think and feel in hopes that people will express the same. its not everyone id say at most 30%. also you have to keep in mind that this is where the reddit rejects go (i can say that word because i got banned off of reddit lol).
another user got mad and attacked me for saying “my morality and logic is different” and said nothing about why my differences is bad.
Reddit energy
The amount of dogshit takes from 2 week old to 3 month old accounts is absurd, Lemmy instances should institute a one month lurking period or something. Some fuckass actually posted Asmongold to a gaming group. Its a tidal wave.
I’ve found much more genuine, honest discussion on here than other platforms. More people say thanks when someone corrects them. I feel like I’m talking to reasonable adults, for the most part.
It definitely depends on what communities you’re in!
The Tumblr effect
Thing allows freedom of speech Thing now has “bad apples” Thing either get lobotomized or accomodates with that freedom.
I don’t think it’s “growing,” more that as society continues to get worse people’s outlooks grow darker.
world on fire
people in fire
OP: Why aren’t you smiling?Pretty much!
I don’t think it’s “growing,” more that as society continues to get worse people’s outlooks grow darker.
See, that’s the problem. I don’t think the world is getting “worse,” it’s just the doomscrollers on Lemmy wanting it to be worse to fit their own twisted narratives.
I think a lot of Lemmy posters are depressed and actually want everyone else to be depressed.
I don’t think the world is getting “worse,” it’s just the doomscrollers on Lemmy wanting it to be worse to fit their own twisted narratives.
For many MANY groups it is getting objectively worse.
For those in the USA:
- if they are trans they are at risk for violence or legal consequences for simply going in a public bathroom.
- if they work for the federal government they have lost or are at risk for losing their livelihood.
- if the weren’t a natural born citizen of the USA they are at risk for deportation to a prison in El Salvador irrespective of their circumstances of student visa, asylum visa, green card holder, even naturalized citizens.
- if they are a women, their lives are now at risk from preventable disorders if they get pregnant
- if they are old or disabled they are now at risk of being declared dead and having their retirement Social Security income cut off
- if they are a child they are at risk of dying from preventable diseases (like measles or whooping cough) even with decades old effective vaccines available, but not used.
- if they are poor they are at risk for possible hunger and starvation as basic food assistance has been cut around the country deemed as “waste”
- if they are a veteran needing medical care they are now at risk from cuts to staff that facilitate care for the people that stood in defense of our nation.
For our great historical allies of Canada and Mexico:
- they are getting their economies destroyed because they trusted the USA to honor its own written treaties.
For the rest of the world:
- they just today the world got an unjustified kick in the shins with nearly global trade tariffs from the USA.
The only group that aren’t generally hurt yet are: well off older white men
As a member of that group I find it fucking disgusting what is being done to everyone that isn’t in this group at the hands of this group.
I don’t think any of that is any worse off than it was a few years ago though.
I don’t think
Could’ve stopped right there. Then finally we’d get some truth out of you.
Hey, thanks for proving my point. I just used you as an example in this very thread about people who follow others just to talk shit. And here you are doing that very thing.
That’s awesome. Thank you for proving my point so quickly!
Also, let’s just show everyone how you’ve actually admitted to trolling and following me just to make me, “snap.” Ya never got me to snap, and you never will:
I live rent free in your head. The way you talk about me to others is flattering.
Nope. But you definitely come up in the conversation when people are talking about how some lemmys follow others around and spread hate. Which is exactly what you do :)
You are the perfect example of what OP is talking about.
I don’t think any of that is any worse off than it was a few years ago though.
You’re being intellectually dishonest if you are claiming your statement is true.
Can I ask if you are a white, well off, man?
You’re being intellectually dishonest if you are claiming your statement is true.
Just because I said something that you didn’t agree with doesn’t mean I was being “intellectually dishonest,” and it’s rude of you to imply that.
Can I ask if you are a white, well off, man?
I’m not white, nor am I well off. Live in midsize city and never made more than $40K my entire career, and in fact made substantionaly less than that for most of it.
I lived through the 80’s. Try living then and telling me that life is worse now. lol
It very demonstrably is. Credit card debt is at record highs, home ownership is down, rents are a bigger proportion of salary than they’ve been in like a century, one in every five children in the US face food insecurity, incarceration is the highest in the world by far both in volume and per capita, people are going bankrupt with medical debt at record rates.
Just because you don’t want to face up to it doesn’t mean it’s not happening.
You’re being intellectually dishonest if you are claiming your statement is true.Just because I said something that you didn’t agree with doesn’t mean I was being “intellectually dishonest,” and it’s rude of you to imply that.
You can keep your false righteous indignation. How can you claim to tell person in an El Salvador prison right now its “no worse off”? Please, explain that to me. How about a fired federal worker? Is it “no worse off” for them now they’re unemployed?
I lived through the 80’s. Try living then and telling me that life is worse now. lol
I already told you I’m an older, well off, white man. Yes, I lived through the 80s too. How is that relevant at all? You’re we should be happy now because we don’t have 12% interest rates yet and stagflation is how we should be okay with trump destroying the world economy for likely the better part of the upcoming decade? Why stop your measure over 40 years ago, long before most of the people here were even born?
Why not tell interracial married couples “Try living in 1966 and not being able to get legally married to your spouse of a different race. lol”
Why not tell women and “Try living in 1918 and not being able to vote. lol”
I don’t think things are getting worse. You do. It’s ok that we disagree. And I don’t think any of this should add to the “hate” problem that some see on Lemmy. Which is the point of OP’s post.
Hate isn’t the answer, even if someone’s mad about whatever political environment they are in.
He’s not worth trying to debate. He’s not bringing logic to the table. He’s rooting for Trump because he thinks the Democrats have had a shitty attitude for awhile and wants Democrats to “get what they deserve.” DJM here will burn it all down to ruin your day because somebody was a little snarky to him about a political opinion once.
Sure, if you refuse to look at the sky it’s pretty hard to see the asteroid getting bigger.
Meh, we just disagree.
