Do 22% of Canadians live in Alberta?
Surprised its only 78% that oppose. What the hell are the 22% smoking?
They’re all from Alberta
the same folks who didn’t get why the piss jugs episode was so funny.
Reminder that a few states could do the funniest thing possible and try to secede.
Except the people who would secede have control over the government. They want power more than anything else so they are going to force the entire country to be Jesusland.
Can we stop posting this headline? Again and again and again?
It’s not news.
If a sizable portion of the population did want to do something stupid, that’d be news.
This is… It’s not even propaganda. It’s just a waste of our limited time and emotional capacity for idiocy.
It made me lol, and not in a good way: why would there even be a poll?
Its noise. The media eats it up. Meanwhile the economy is tanking and government spending is worse than it is under most democratic presidents. It’s the Trump administration flak shield. It was tested last administration and it works very well unfortunately. Kick up enough dust around the well and people will talk about how bad the dust is instead of the fact that somebody just drank the well dry.
We should poll how many americans are willing for their state to be the 11th canadian province.
There shouldn’t have been a poll in the first place
Meanwhile Puerto Rico sitting over there like what about us!? We’re supposed to be the 51st state!
Why would someone waste their money on this poll?
Because the world wants to know how hard Polievre fucked himself by hitching his wagon to the trump train.
Also, with an election called in Canada, it probably doesn’t cost much to tack a question about current events onto a poll you were already going to conduct.
Four in five Canadians strongly oppose the idea of joining their neighbours to the south, and a majority, 78 per cent, are concerned with the rhetoric Trump keeps pushing.
So 20% of Canadians are traitors and/or idiots. Probably the FUCK TRUDEAU flags and bumper stickers crowd who complain about their first amendment rights.
78% is considered almost a statistical impossibility for these kinds of things. This is the polling equivalent of “every last person”.
There’s a baseline 20-30% of all polls taken over the world that is made up of hateful nutjobs and conspiracy theorists
There could be someone running for office who has figured out how to solve all the world’s problems for free, and that 20-30% will vehemently oppose them.
“Why should we solve the world’s problems for free? The rest of the world should pay us!”
I have long said that even in a Utopia you would have people unhappy about the way things were.
This is the premise that makes Iain M Banks’ Culture series of novels so compelling.
Even though it is a massive interstellar Type2 society that is “fully automated luxury communism” many people are going to be problematic, angsty, and childish. The result is an always interesting plot.
A more thorough exploration of someone living in a relative utopia but being a long streak of misery by nature is Delaney’s novel Triton. Main character is a jerk and you get to explore why, while extremely cool things are happening all around.
I love that about the Culture novels: they are socially coherent. Banks is very keen on telling us about the psychology of this utopian society.
I once tried some Delaney but dropped it as psychedelic hippie scifi. I hope I wasn’t unjust in doing that, but afair it was from that time. Maybe it even was Triton. It was all confusion (“tripping”) and exploring a completely desire-based, erm, exploration.
Recently I read (and barely managed to finish) Alfred Bester’s The Stars My Destination, which seems to fit into a similar category (Beatnik scifi?). It had way too many shortcomings, plus it was an old translation that only managed to make the latent racism/sexism more prominent. But it was also very inventive and captivating.
Yeah the hippy sexy Delaney novel was probably Dhalgren, which I don’t think I have actually finished despite a few attempts, and for reference I enjoyed Finnegan’s Wake in its entirety so it’s not like I don’t have stamina. I like all the other Delaney works, though. Triton might be a slog because the main character is self centred and childish and it’s from their point of view. It has some banger scenes, like the visit to a novelty restaurant with a nostalgic capitalist theme, and the wacko performance art at one point, and details like every candidate who gets any votes is elected and represent those voters, however few they maybe. Also main character gets a sex change to run from their problems but of course they’re still a jerk lol.
Glad to hear that. Would you recommend an easy entry into Delaney’s opus?
Sure, I guess it depends on your style preferences… I prefer science fiction, so can’t remember much about the sword and sorcery novels, but they’re readable, and like anything Delaney does, underpinned with exploration of the power of words, ideas, power, desire.
Stay away from Dhalgren.
Nova is probably the most space opera novel with a standard structure. Good starting place.
Babel-17 is intense and weird and fairly short, about language as a weapon. Sometimes you find a copy doubled up with Empire Star which has a plot and structure that loops back on itself.
Probably my favourite is Stars in my Pocket Like Grains of Sand which is probably the most alien yet approachable family portrayal in SF. Sadly it’s the first half of a duology that didn’t get finished, probably because it stands alone really well.
The short story collections vary but are mostly wins for any reader.
But what about the freedom to lose one’s life savings to an insurance company?
I’m having a hard time finding the link to the poll itself…
But I suspect that the poll had distinct categories for “strongly oppose” and “oppose”.
So either the article is lumping the two responses together (which would be shitty because they explicitly say “strongly”) or it’s likely that the number of Canadians who are open to it is <20.
From previous polling I’ve seen, it was around 13% who were open to it. Not even saying they would, but merely open to the idea.
It’s needs to be 100% of Canadians. Those who don’t oppose us becoming the U.S. aren’t Canadian, and can kindly GTFO of this amazing country.
20% Russian bots/Elon bots
I’m hoping that the 20% includes mostly people who are just opposed (but not strongly). Still idiots, but not likely traitors.
Yeah… These headlines are always so optimistic (probably because our media is owned by americans)
“Overwhelming support for canada. Nothing to see here folks!”
Uhhhh… 1/5 canadians are literal traitors to the nation. Stand on guard against these morons. Elbows up.
Polls generally are complete garbage.
If I become Supreme Leader of the US (it seems a lot more probable than it used to) I will make public polls illegal. If you want to poll people you need to do it in the privacy of your own home with the curtains drawn.
Sovereign country not keen on being annexed by psycho neighbour, more news at 6.
No shit!
These articles and polls, framing trump’s deranged russo-imposed plans as a legit proposal, do not help at all.
They just normalize this fucking insane shit
Reporting on this just helps him.
Yeah, it’s frustrating to see anyone even bother spending time on this nonsense. It does just normalize the absolute insanity of what is going on - it’s more damaging to publish this poll than to ignore it altogether imo.
What sane person would want to be under the control of the Orange Turd.
No shit, no one wants this. Why would we??
Fr - who, with the minimum amount of decency, would want to be part of this?
As a US-ian, I really wish you guys would keep reminding us that if you did join the US, you’d be a 51st state slightly larger and left of California.
The GOP wants nothing to do with Canada. They cringe every time they think about ya’ll voting in our elections.
The guy down the street from me with a giant “Trump 2024” flag probably wants it. Fucking traitor.
Sounds like a great target for egging. Bonus points for being topical.
Well No Shit. Why would anyone want to buy into the hot mess we’ve got going right now?
What?!? Why don’t they want to have most freedoms?
They’re already tired of winning!
