I am kind of too scared to ask here, but what did it actually achieve?

  • Monkey With A Shell
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    2414 days ago

    It got people to talk about it and take interest in what is going on. There are undoubtedly some portion of the population that are fully oblivious of the world around them, or just indifferent at least, but someone going on for that long has to make them wonder why he would do that.

        • TTH4P
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          It’s better than nothing. But that’s all it achieved.

            • @[email protected]
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              1214 days ago

              they elected oz in the very next session; using a filibuster to prevent his confirmation is how you use a filibuster effectively.

                • @[email protected]
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                  1114 days ago

                  the same way thurmond did it; you secure the votes behinds the scenes and then throw a filibuster when it’s time to vote to turn up the pain; not when there’s nothing on the table and no one around like booker did it.

            • TTH4P
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              I guess I’m just a little more cynical and you’re just a little more idealistic. If you review this thread, and the many other threads posted about this speech, in full you’ll see I’m not the only one who feels like this is bare minimum effort from Democrat leadership. Agree to disagree.

        • davel [he/him]
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          2414 days ago

          Politics isn’t sportsball, so no. Breaking arbitrary stats doesn’t mean shit in terms of making material changes in the world, which is what politics is about.

  • Terrarium [none/use name]
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    It achieved false catharsis, the main scam product Democrats are always selling. Performative nonsense immediately contradicted by their actual (lack of) actions. Immediately afterwards they helped confirm a Trump judicial appointment with help from Booker. His long speech wasn’t even to delay any legislation. It has no so-called momentum, which you can note has no stated descriptors in the other comment. Momentum for what? Sitting on your hands and then voting for them again in 4 years? This is not a real political party, it is just the controlled opposition of the US political duopoly trying its usual parlor tricks to make its potential voters stop recognizing how they aren’t cleaning house or really doing anything at all.

    Real parties do exist. It is a struggle due to the aforementioned duopoly and general level of political education in the USA, but it is a struggle worth joining because this is the only “opposition” you will ever see being forwarded by the Democratic Party by its own volition. Every bit of progress has been hard fought and its vanguard has always been left organizing outside of the major parties. Join that vsnguard!

  • @[email protected]
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    Raised his national profile. If he keeps up political theater like this for the next 3 year’s he’ll have a good shot at the Democratic nomination.

  • @[email protected]
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    It’s political momentum. Same thing bernie and AOC are doing. None of them have changed anything yet, it’s just getting attention and support for future acts

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    Booker’s speech was an audition for Schumer’s job. He laid out his vision of the Democratic agenda, and showed strength doing it, contrasting with that craven, corrupt, simpering, weak, vile, weenie Schumer.

    Schumer is in the way, and needs to retire immediately, and make way for AOC to take his seat.

    If Schumer leaves, Booker become Minority leader, and AOC goes to the Senate, that speech will have acvomplished a lot.

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      Bookers 24h subathon showed strength nor vision. There was nothing differing him from Schumer except his age and skin color. According to DNC logic this makes Booker a worse candidate than Schumer.

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    Absolutely nothing. It’s nice that he broke the record of some asshole racist but functionally nothing has changed.

    Democrats are just as impotent today as they were yesterday and throughout the Biden administration.

  • @[email protected]
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    813 days ago

    What did a single Trump rally achieve? Nothing. What did multiple years of Trump rallies achieve?

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      Will Cory Booker be giving multiple 25 hour speeches per day for multiple years? Because I just don’t see Dems doing much more than coasting off this for the next four years.

      The only actionable thing that was accomplished was a black senator took the record for longest speech from a segregationist arguing against people like Booker being able to safely vote. Which for that alone he should be congrulated and celebrated.

      • @[email protected]
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        113 days ago

        Well, we will need to wait and see. The first Dem to consistently build an authentic movement though, wins with ease.

        • @[email protected]
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          Dem to consistently build an authentic movement

          The whole point of Dems for the last forty years is they don’t know what authenticity is. They think it’s a marketing term and not a human condition.

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        Yeah, I’ll be honest I’m pretty tuned out on the Dems, but the first time I heard about this was an unwanted donation solicitation that started like “I just got off the senate floor…” and it made it feel so transparent that right now, it’s performative bullshit.

        Could be the start of something, but it won’t be until the Dems prove they’re effective at something other than fundraising to lose elections.

    • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]
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      Individual Trump rallys still convinced people to vote for him. Or are you saying that running for president in 4 years is what Booker’s doing about Trump?

  • @[email protected]
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    Think of it like a protest. Most protests don’t DO anything, but he forced the entire senate to sit and listen to him for 25 hrs rant about how bad things have gotten. I’m sure there was work and stuff they were supposed to vote on that he effectively delayed. But that’s all it really was, a record breaking protest.

    • MeeOP
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      But it literally it was on the news for a day, that’s it.

      Protests go on for multi days and have a physical effect and achieve discomfort.

      Meanwhile, I don’t see the speech achieving a lot of that.

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    What does anything achieve on a long enough timeline? The same nothingness, but for 25 hours the entire senate could do nothing but bear witness to an unyielding resistance to the cruelties currently in motion. May not be much but some will find inspiration in those that continue to make ‘good trouble’ I personally found a spark of hope and I’m a real cynic tbh

  • @[email protected]
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    913 days ago

    It slowed the process if nothing else. Every day that this administration can be slowed down is a win.

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    Senators (in the US) are elected representatives of their state. Sen. Booker, through his 25 hour speech, brought his constituents’ message to the forefront, criticized the Senate, Democrats’ and his own failures to act. He got millions of people to look at Senate business as if he was a professional streamer which is usually boring stuff. The speech is Booker’s answer to “what can I do at this moment to make a difference?”, which hopefully will get others to ask the same of themselves.

    It’s impossible to measure the true impact of the speech afterward, but it’s intended to inspire people to take action, resist the Trump monarchy, and cause “good trouble” where they can. Who knows whether this has had any influence on the Wisconsin Supreme Court which was a humiliation to Musk, or if it had any influence on the 4 Republican Senators joining Democrats to pass a resolution nullifying the false emergency against Canada?