This isn’t a red flag, its a fucking air siren.
It’s not an air siren, it’s the sound of the bombers themselves flying above you.
And they have this painted on the side ☢️
Is the first one Disney? If so, 2 of 3 are confirmed Nazis, so yeah, huge red flag. Steve Jobs was just a dick, right?
The behind the bastards about Jobs was fucking wild. The guy made children cry (not his own) for eating incorrectly and he would hold meetings in the bathroom so he could soak his feet in the toilets. It is a great series of episodes.
The same dude who refused cancer treatment because he was convinced his “healthy” lifestyle and alt med bullshit would cure the cancer itself
He literally thought eating tons of fruit would cure cancer. He also refused to shower and stank like shit.
I’ll look for that one, he’s great. Sometimes, it’s just too hard to listen to, but Jobs would probably be okay.
The Jobs series is fairly tame as far as BtB goes. Definitely worth a listen.
How do you eat incorrectly, stick it up your nose?
If I recall it was a small girl who ordered a hamburger which conflicted with what he thought a proper diet should be. He absolutely let her have it in public and she cried.
and he would hold meetings in the bathroom so he could soak his feet in the toilets.
Pardon?
Listen to the episode. It is fucking wild. He apparently didn’t bathe either
Because he said he didn’t need to. Some wild shit about mucus and body odor and how his diet removed the need for it.
Narrator: It didn’t
Disney technically isn’t a confirmed Nazi, AFAIK. He actually worked with jewish employees at his company who vouched for him.
He was a nazi by association, to the antisemite Motion Picture Alliance of the time and his welcoming of Nazi film film director Leni Riefenstahl. He also had a specific beef with a specific Jewish businessman who labelled him an antisemite, and his company produced at least one antisemitic portrayal of the three little pigs, but it also produced propoganda for the US Military fighting the nazis. In their cartoon “the ducktators” they mount the stuffed heads of Hitler, Mussolini, and a japanese military leader I don’t recognize on the wall above the fireplace.
He was racist af, tho, but no less than average in 1930s and 1940s.
Sounds like he just didn’t have any morals, just cared about the money.
Which I don’t think is any better than being a Nazi, but could be worse
Yeah, no morals
No, Nazis are way fucking worse
Now, no morals and only caring about money would take you the same path Nazis took if it was found profitable. Just look at what the megacorps are doing - absolutely anything they can to squeeze couple more pennies without caring of the consequences to human life, as long as they’re not financially penalized for it.
No, it’s the same monsters different motivation
A successful businessman seeks to enrich himself and his investors by satiafying market demands.
A nazi seeks to enrich himself by murdering and taking from others, by exploiting and torturing others to the maximum effect of cruelty.
It would be like comparing Bill Gates to Elon Musk.
It would be like comparing Bill Gates to Elon Musk
Bill Gates is not the great example you thought he’d be.
It’s not even many years ago when he himself said he’s willing to sacrifice any amount of lives necessary to squeeze the profits out of COVID vaccine patents
The Bill and Melinda Gates foundation saved and enriched millions of lives across Africa. The Gates foundation also walkef back their opposition to making the vaccine patent free and open, their original excuse was that it could lead to loss of quality control.
Say what you want about the tenets of national socialism dude; at least it’s an ethos…
Man, that’s a bold quote to drop ITT. 🤣 Just watched again two weeks ago.
It was the God-Emperor himself. Casual reminder that Imperial Japan was a divine monarchy, and fascism and monarchism are not mutually exclusive.
The glasses are the giveaway. Plus him being the head of state…
In my book, Nazi adjacent = Nazi. He wasn’t trying to get along with Nazis to save orphans or something.
There should be zero tolerance for Nazis.
But if a profiteer trades media with a nazi it doesn’t make him one. It makes him an asshole, but a Nazi is something far worse and by watering that down and normalizing it you’re doing great harm to society.
if a profiteer trades media with a nazi it doesn’t make him one
I would argue it does. By assisting a Nazi in any way, you have actively chosen not to hinder them, and are thus furthering their cause. That makes you a fucking honorary Nazi at the very least.
It’s not about watering anything down, it’s about keeping those pieces of shit as radioactive as possible. Their ideology should be completely isolated and driven to literal extinction.
Lol, not hindering equals assisting, okay
Why are you assisting in the Israeli genocide?
Is anything you own made in China? Is any of the fuel you’ve used in the past couple of years supplied by SA or Russia? If so, aren’t you actively promoting multiple genocides?
not hindering equals assisting
I said absolutely no such thing. I said assisting a Nazi is choosing not to hinder them.
And you know absolutely nothing about my habits, what I do, or what I buy so fuck off with that bad faith nonsense and stop defending Nazis.
Please stop murdering Palestinians.
Also, Nazi punks can fuck off.
Oskar Schindler
I somewhat agree, because their opinion can be changed by whatever is most profitable. However, that view also makes it impossible to identify Nazis. It’s hard to say Disney wasn’t a Nazi and only did things against that because it was profitable, or he was anti-nazi and only did things for them because it was profitable. If “just following orders” makes you a Nazi, then just following the profits does too.
I think if a nazi is living secretly in hiding all is well but since we live in a world where people tell us who they are it becomes incredibly easy to identify Nazis.
“what do you want tattooed”
“I want the american history x tattoo but make it slightly less on the nose”
Hes also got an american flag, handgun, and Dues Vult tattoo on his arm.
Just gonna point out that that’s a Crusader cross, I think it’s the cross of Jerusalem specifically but I’m only really familiar with like three Crusader orders so it could be one of the more obscure ones I’m just not recognizing. I only say this since I keep seeing folks calling it the iron cross which is an entirely different symbol and would be less of a red flag since at least the iron cross has connections to the German Empire, Modern Germany, and American Biker gangs.
I made a recreation of a local bust of Kaiser Wilhelm (one of the good ones, brought peace to Europe (the non-ominous way)) that happened to include an actual iron cross medal. I was concerned about modern interpretations and so I did research on it, and the anti-defamation league tells me that it is not a hate symbol. Good enough for me.
We must be diligent with our language, even if the enemy is willing to twist it. Thanks.
Musk started out as just a dick then turned full fascist. I bet Jobs wouldn’t be too far behind if he was alive.
The guy died from a treatable cancer because he listened to a health guru instead of doctors. I bet he would be an antivax idiot gulping down horse dewormer to prevent COVID-19 if was alive today.
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Classic billionaire bullshit
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Behind the Bastards had a great series on him, as always.
I liked that when he died, he died knowing he could have avoided it if he wasn’t a miserable, narcissistic idiot :)
Yea, just an unbelievable asshole.
At least jobs had the presence of mind to let himself die of a curable condition because he thought he knew better.
Even that tongue in cheek comment is unfortunately true as another person put it: he stole the next in line spot for a transplant when he was already way too far gone for it to do anything only to die months later.
Was Disney a Nazi? I know he wasn’t a good person, but I hadn’t heard that. Is there any further reading you could link me? A cursory search didn’t find much other than the fact that he seems totally cool working with anti-semites, which isn’t really the same thing. If he was, I’d like to know, and if not, we should be more precise with our language so when we call out people like Elon it means something.
we should be more precise with our language
I swear this exact phrase is an FBI plot to get people to doubt everything they see and hear.
“That school shooter was a nazi” “Well, we ought to be careful when saying things like that.”
“Elon Musk is a nazi.” “And what has he done exactly? You know, it’s important to be precise. The story of the boy who cried wolf is that …”
“Hitler was a nazi.” “Well, he was in charge of the nazis. Specificity is really important when handling delicate matters like these, you know.”Not to pick on you specifically, but I am so fucking tired of hearing it.
I swear the over use of the term nazi is what got us to this place where people don’t believe Musk is one after doing two sieg heils during the inauguration.
Criticizing the term’s over use is not the same as denying their existence or horribleness.
Criticizing the term’s over use
You can’t police overuse. Just disagree and move on.
By constantly handwringing about it every single time it comes up, you end up teaching people that that’s the way you are supposed to react to this information. It becomes a thought terminating cliche. Somebody says nazi, and the first thing anyone else thinks about is “well, they’re probably just being hyperbolic.” You’re reinforcing the same narrative.
Like, a good nazi accusation usually comes with an argument. “Such and such is a nazi because of these 6 things I saw them do, and they kicked a dog also,” but even then, people will twist themselves into pretzels about whether the word is still “too much” or not. You have to cut them off. It’s not relevant. It doesn’t need to be given dignity as a criticism. It only serves as a distraction from the 6 points.
People do the exact same thing about the word genocide.
Think about it this way: an actual nazi benefits from these terms being muddy and unworkable, so our strategy cannot depend on clear waters; we will never get them.
I totally get that, but there’s a big difference between “this guy did a Nazi salute” or “this guy idolized Hitler” and “this guy worked with anti-semites.” I don’t think we should be using the word Nazi to mean “racist person,” as Nazi is pretty specific. I certainly hope I don’t come across as making any of the above arguments. Ford was a Nazi. Elon is a Nazi. I haven’t seen evidence suggesting Disney is the same, and I think it would be irresponsible to turn Nazi into a generic pejorative for “bigot.”
To be clear, I have no idea what Walt is or isn’t. I’m not making a claim there, haha.
it would be irresponsible to turn Nazi into a generic pejorative for “bigot.”
I agree… especially if we’re talking about historical figures who might be pretty far removed from the modern political climate.
But to be fair, there is a pretty direct connection between bigotry and nazis, modern or otherwise.
but there’s a big difference between “this guy did a Nazi salute” or “this guy idolized Hitler” and “this guy worked with anti-semites.”
Umm… Is there?
If you’re sitting at a table with 9 Nazis, then that’s a table of 10 Nazis.
I (a Jewish person) draw a distinction between antisemitism and Nazism. Nazis aren’t just racist, they’re fascist, with a specific set of beliefs. All I can verify is that Disney associated with racists in Hollywood willingly. I find it hard to believe that if Disney was a Nazi sympathizer, he would’ve produced so many anti-Nazi propaganda films. To give a good analogy, someone might be racist towards Palestinians and Arab people without being Zionist. That’s a more specific belief that includes racism.
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Oh no, that’s no a red flag at all.
It’s the whole goddamned color guard.
The Guardians of the Incel.
Who’s the guy on the left? I’m sure he’s awful just via context clues, just not sure why.
Walt Disney. A nazi.
Fucking lol. Everyone is a nazi i guess.
"There is some dispute whether the same spirit of tolerance extended to the studio, but of the Jews who worked there, it was hard to find any who thought Walt was an anti-Semite.”
Yeah, if you call everyone a Nazi, eventually nobody is.
Disney I think
Walt Disney
Red flag? This is USSR .
Considering what Russia was like before and after the USSR, and considering that the Nazis threw everything at destroying the USSR and then the US put all it’s weight on strangling the USSR… Communism is actually kind of incredible in a lot of ways. It turned Russia from a shithole into a global super power and then it did the same for China
Yeah, not ragging on communism. I’m actually a huge fan of Marx, including his tidbit about an armed proletariat. But the country was considered “red” at the time.
Also, good on you for defending the system! I only wish you disparaged the leader a little. Cause, conceptually, the USSR would’ve lasted a whole lot longer if it wasn’t for that murderous prick.
China and Russia have been superpowers way longer than communism has been an idea
Let’s play a game. What’s the fourth picture on his wall that we can’t see
Von Braun or Joe Rogan
Henry Ford.
Ronald Reagan
A famous artist.
Kanye West you say? (Extra points if it’s ironically mounted on the East wall)
This would fit perfectly. Trump is another possibility
Yo did you see his new album cover yet?
Thomas Edison.
Oh that’s good
Andrew Tate.
Dude’s not even fun to look at.
Andrew Ryan
Mussolini
This one lol.
There’s something uncanny about that photo… His head is so fucking ginormous. This looks like a resin statue or some shit lol. How the fuck is his dome that big?? It’s like the same size as his torso lol
Edit: A day later and I just can’t stop looking at this dude’s massive gourd. He looks like a cartoon character. Or like “big-head mode” in a 90s video game lol
He looks much better in the last photo ever taken of him!
I agree… Though I had to rotate that one 180 degrees to properly see it ;)
Elizabeth Holmes
A certificate from the Andrew Tate fan club.
ABANDON SHIP
Bruh you might not wake up
All of them are sociopathic businessmen. 110% red flag.
So many red flags it’s like a communist revolution . 🚩🚩🚩🇻🇳🇨🇳
How can you tag people? Is it doable in Jerboa?
I don’t use Jerboa, I know in Summit I can just type @ and their username, but I think that might only create a hyperlink to their profile and not actually send them a notification.
For what it counts: I got this notification!
Edit: And to the OP i guess yes absolute red flag fuckin’ run lmao, the steve jobs one was enough of a red flag lol
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Yes it is a red flag. With a round white space in the center and a weird swastika cross.
Welcome, to the Nosleep Podcast.
Double bed in the corner? Pillows with no covers? You matched with a child.
Oh yeah, and the Nazi pictures. That’s bad too.
I wondered if I was the only one who had this take. Mattress on the floor. Must be 18yo. I can cut them some slack cause I had the same at 18yo. And that explains the childlike hero-worship of jackasses (and I really like Steve Jobs as a product guy).
Were I a young woman, I wouldn’t consider this person safe to be alone with. Not because of the shitty bed. Because of the psychotic worship of shitty men.
We had a mattress on a homemade base for a while as parents in our 30s because our first child fell from the bed, which was pretty high as beds go.
So we built this frame on the floor so that our kid could get in and out of the bed with minimal effort, and if she fell, she would fall the height of the mattress.
Now I’ll be the first one to hate on organ thief Steve Jobs, but I don’t think he was a nazi, more of a hippy psycho cult leader.
I was talking about the posters of Nazis. I should’ve been more clear.
EDIT - To be perfectly clear. There are two pictures of Nazis, and one picture of someone who would have been a Nazi supporter if he didn’t prematurely die of hubris.
Yeah, Jobs wasn’t a Nazi, he was mostly an asshole that stole the surplus value from his employees and also credit for the work his employees did
If Jobs was still alive he probably would have been sitting with the other billionaires at Trump’s inauguration.
I hate how real this looks. Can you imagine the levels of douchery this person can get up to?
Edit: several people are earning themselves Nazi sympathizer tags ITT.
