• @Grimtuck@lemmy.world
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    11 month ago

    I’ve got my first son or daughter on the way, I’m thinking they might be learning Linux as their first OS

    • @Bazoogle@lemmy.world
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      11 month ago

      I’ve had issues with the installer from 24H2 for my unattended. I had to use the previous versions installer and installed the 24H2 ISO.

  • @endeavor@sopuli.xyz
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    41 month ago

    Are people shocked that windows keeps removing things that allow the os to be usable and debloated?

    Copilot recording your screen will be a non optional feature before win11 is over.

  • @wtckt@lemm.ee
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    11 month ago

    Just had to set up two pcs for work. Trying to get around the account setup and thinking about all the bullshit that comes with windows I just installed Linux mint.

    • Cyrus Draegur
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      01 month ago

      every passing day i feel increasingly gratified to have switched my previously win11 laptop to linux mint. aside from the sheer principle of microsoft being ass, i also fucking despise all of windows’ AI bullshit. Fuck copilot for eternity.

      • Bunbury
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        01 month ago

        I tried setting up a dual boot Mint next to my Win 11 last night. Just so I can experiment with getting all the (replacement) programs of my Win 11 install to work on there… froze during install and was busy for hours getting my boot files for Win 11 back.

        I’m not a technical genius or anything and now I’m scared to try again. I assume it’s way easier if I would just rip the bandaid off and do it in one go. Sadly too much relies on me still being able to use the computer close to the way I could before. Ah well. Another day, another chance to nuke the boot files.

          • Bunbury
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            I use a lot of adobe programs, like photoshop, illustrator and Lightroom. The standard MS office stuff and a bunch of games both via steam and the EA AppStore, some of which are windows only. Mind you, I know most if not all should work using wine (or similar) or have good alternatives. But I’d rather try first before nuking windows.

            • @toynbee@lemmy.world
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              21 month ago

              That’s all very reasonable. I certainly encourage caution.

              I’ve never really voluntarily used Adobe products, nor the EA store, but I can tell you Linux support for gaming has come a long way, even for “Windows only” games. If you’re unsure about a particular one, a great place to start is protondb.com. I don’t know if they work with EA, but I’ve also heard good things about Lutris and Bubbles.

              As you said, there are good alternatives, including Open or LibreOffice. You might benefit from reviewing alternativeto.net, which isn’t specifically Linux focused but has a good chance of giving you options. For example:

              https://alternativeto.net/software/adobe-lightroom/

              Good luck with your experimentation!

    • 3DMVR
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      01 month ago

      I like seeing these posts, non issue now that im on linux, need more ppl to swap to help the piracy ecosystem

      • @pogmommy@lemmy.ml
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        01 month ago

        Lots of the most best tools for desktop Linux are free and open source, so you really don’t need to pirate desktop software. As far as multimedia goes, I generally find it much easier to sail the seas on Linux as opposed to Windows where everything felt hacky and difficult to isolate.

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          Lmao if you find an open source tool that competes with houdini, let me know. I found it extremely easy to pirate on windows, it takes a long time to find a crack on linux, if I do, it is usually out of date.

          I have only pirated davinci resolve studio on linux and some blender addons, like 25% dont work, while I had a ton of pirated software on windows. (marvelousdesigner, embergen, houdini, davinci openfx addons like redgiant, borisfx syntheyes, touchdesigner, resolume etc.) A lot of stuff that adds up to 1000s of dollars a month for hobby stuff that I use sporadically.

          Im not even gonna try to learn music creation again, just assuming ableton and flstudio would both be issues.

          • @pogmommy@lemmy.ml
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            01 month ago

            Im not even gonna try to learn music creation again, just assuming ableton and flstudio would both be issues.

            I understand that more conventional software is proprietary and not released natively for Linux, but it seems unfortunate yo me to let proprietary software stop you from making art. Ive got friends who produce music exclusively on Linux machines using qtractor, which is free and open source, so there’s no need to crack it. I can’t speak for the rest of the tools you mentioned but maybe it would just be worth exploring some of the Foss options to see what you can do with them? I haven’t bothered cracking software since I made the move over to Linux because I just haven’t found any piece of my workflows that actually depends on non-foss software. Turns out tools developed by the communities that use them rather than corporate entities typically turn out to be pretty good.

            • 3DMVR
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              01 month ago

              Everything you’re saying is more a reason to swap back to windows than stick with linux, you ltierally have less options with linux all of the linux options still work on windows

              • @pogmommy@lemmy.ml
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                11 month ago

                Call it fewer options, I call it curated options. Yeah, I don’t get to install every piece of software I could on windows (though that list is shrinking really fucking fast), but i also don’t want to. I don’t need to put energy into cracking adobe software so they can steal my licensing and farm my data to sell or train their AI on.

                I don’t want to use a drill that only works with screws that are officially approved for DeWalt drills, and I don’t want to hack a DeWalt drill to make it work with other screws. I want a drill that fits whatever screw I want. People aren’t switching to Linux because of the vast amount of software available for it, it’s because it’s the option that actually respects us as consumers.

  • @doctortofu@reddthat.com
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    171 month ago

    Seems an alternative, easier method was found: https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered

    Relevant part:

    But fret not, as a new, perhaps better bypass has already been discovered that still uses the command prompt (which you can open with Shift + F10) and makes skipping the Microsoft Account sign-in step a total breeze.

    Discovered by user @witherornot1337 on X, typing “start ms-cxh:localonly” into the command prompt during the Windows 11 setup experience will allow you to create a local account directly without needing to skip connecting to the internet first.

    • @ikidd@lemmy.world
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      91 month ago

      Shit like that has to be a leak, idk how else you’d just pull that out of one’s ass.

      • @kieron115@startrek.website
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        81 month ago

        “The bypass uses a CXH (cloud experience host) URI (Uniform Resource Identifier) string during the OOBE to invoke the hidden local account setup screen.” this had to be data mined or something yeah.

  • Not a replicant
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    31 month ago

    I put this in another thread: It’s not a big deal. They’re removing the bypassnro.cmd script, which is just this:


    @echo off

    reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE /v BypassNRO /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f

    shutdown /r /t 0


    You can still use shift-F10 at the same point, type those two lines (not the @ECHO OFF), and it will achieve the same result.

    • @Rooty@lemmy.world
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      I will copypaste your comment next time people complain Linux is hard to learn.

    • @green@feddit.nl
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      11 month ago

      So you’re telling me 2% of new Window’s users won’t be forced to make an account? Neat!

      This is not about the technically savvy. The populace is being conditioned into not owning what they purchase. This will in turn make everyone’s life worse.

      • @Flatfire@lemmy.ca
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        11 month ago

        Ultimately this change, while frustrating, probably doesn’t change the initial value for those who fit these two categories:

        • Needs Windows
        • Cares about their privacy

        These people were already going to go out of their way to use the OOBE bypass. They still will. This is no more effort thanbit already was.

        Microsoft crossed the line already by disallowing offline account creation through their default setup process.

  • @SSNs4evr@leminal.space
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    01 month ago

    My 1st desktop had Windows 95 on it. It worked OK. A few years later, I bought a laptop pc with WindowsME (Millennium Edition), and it became the last Windows product I’ve owned. A work colleague installed Windows 2000 on that laptop, and it worked for a couple months, until I got my “blue screen of death.”

    At that time, they started selling the ePC notebooks, available with WindowsXP or Linux (the XanderOS) I stepped out of my comfort zone, and got the XanderOS variant, and have had Linux computers since. I’m currently using Mint on an old Panasonic CF-30, and Ubuntu on 2 laptops built by System 76.

    My wife likes Mac, but I’m not a fan. My kids get a pretty rounded experience, between using their moms Mac, their dads 2 variants of Linux, and their Chromebooks at school.

    • @TylerBourbon@lemmy.world
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      01 month ago

      did you ever PC game at all? If so, I’m curious what you did for work around. The main thing holding me back right now from jumping into the linux world before the end of Win10 support is how much I game and use Premier Pro and Photoshop.

      • @SSNs4evr@leminal.space
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        11 month ago

        Oh, you can set up a dual boot system, so you don’t have to completely jump ship. They also have setups that run entirely on a thumb drive now.

        I did dual boot for a little bit when I want into business 14 years ago. While I liked Linux, I wasn’t sure I could run a business without Windows, but soon discovered that everything would be just fine without Windows, and got rid of it.

      • @SSNs4evr@leminal.space
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        11 month ago

        I’m in my mid-50s. I play Warzone 2100 and BOS wars on my computer. I’ve has Steam for several years, and have a game there…I think it’s “World of Goo.” I like to stick to games that serve as stress relievers, and take no more than about an hour. Between owning a business, 2 teens, 3 schools, 4 sports, a wife, a house that would love to fall apart if I’d only let it, a lawn to mow, and 2 antique cars I love to keep driving, I don’t have much more time to let myself be sucked in to some of the really cool stuff I see.

        I recently bought a replacement PS2 though…the old one broke, and I’m still in love with GTA Vice City. I usually just steal a cop car and do vigilante mode until I’m killed though.

      • @EarlGrey@discuss.tchncs.de
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        11 month ago

        As long as you’re cool being a bit more restricted in multiplayer games (a lot work great! But some developers are blocking linux), and you’re okay with AMD (nvidia is improving though), gaming is basically on par with Windows at this point.

        In some cases it’s even better. I have a few games that require weird tricks to get it to work under Windows, but work fine in proton. Even Elden Ring at launch ran better on linux because it didn’t have the micro-stutter issue.

    • Not a replicant
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      01 month ago

      That’s all well and good, what happens to your kids when they can’t tick the Windows and MSOffice boxes on job applications?

      I’m not having a go at you, I’ll assume you’ve taught your kids how to approach the new and unknown in the IT fields, but if they have limited or zero experience with Microsoft products, they’ll be at a disadvantage.

  • @WorkshopBubby@lemmy.ca
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    11 month ago

    So happy that I switched to linux. Microsoft has been one of the main forces of enshitification of the world. Fuck em. I cant play a bunch of games with my friends anymore, and I have to learn a few new CAD programs, which is like 10 thousand hours of work that I am flushing down the toilet. Worth it.

  • @MehBlah@lemmy.world
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    11 month ago

    I will just have to sign it up to a domain then add a local user using the command prompt. Still a lot more trouble than installing it should be but I will not give in to this garbage push to make everyone have a microsoft account. I disable the store and all of it on every PC I install.

  • @Wispy2891@lemmy.world
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    41 month ago

    This change ensures that all users exit setup with internet connectivity

    And what if someone doesn’t have internet connectivity?

    • @real_squids@sopuli.xyz
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      01 month ago

      Do they still make enterprise/ltsc/iot versions for 11? Because those are usually the ones that don’t treat you like a child, and I expect them to retain that