In UNRELATED NEWS in Free Republican States Trans and Gay people are Legally PEDOPHILES!
You can tell they are Free because of all the people they are hurting.
What are ‘Free Republican States’ ?
States FREE from LIBTARDS obviously.
Great. Just dump anyone you dislike as a “pedophile” and then it’s a free for all.
Hmm, I seem to recall Trump being a pedophile.
They don’t actually care about pedophiles; a lot of them are pedophiles
Yes.
When AI can create any image or video based on another person with their perfect face and voice, besides the scams that will keep increasing, the other great value of the tech is that we going to be able to create any proof and footage we want to incriminate whoever we wish.
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They are already doing that shit.
especially when you have people like elon musk calling people they don’t like paedophiles and winning defamation suits over it by claiming he calls everyone paedophiles.
Didn’t an entire TV show get into some serious hot water for doing this sort of thing which resulted in someone committing suicide while filming an episode? These people are potentially putting themselves in serious danger if they corner a pedo who feels like they have nowhere to run or anything left to lose.
That’s what I was thinking of. Thanks!
corner a pedo
And since these are internet vigilante kids with no oversight, they will inevitably corner some non-pedos too.
Put yourself in that situation- a couple teenagers with cameras approach you on the street and start accusing you of some of the sickest crimes imaginable. Even though the accusation is false, this has the potential to ruin your career, your relationships, your entire life.
I’m not sure how anyone would respond, or should respond, but I can definitely see how people might resort to violence when falsely accused of this horrible shit on camera.
Exactly. Vigilante justice is not the solution here, it’s only going to get a lot of people hurt.
Especially when there are legitimate routes to volunteer under police guidance and jurisdiction. Join one of those groups instead, and let the legal system jail them.
The huge issue with these vigilantes is accusing someone of pedophilia, like rape, can have damning consequences on someones life. Beyond losing their job they could take their own life.
To catch a predator was a good series because it was a sting. They had adults pose as teens and bait pedos to a house.
You wouldn’t go to that damn house with the home alone teen unless you wanted to commit statutory rape.
Just happened here in Austria. Police took 20 people into custody (13 have since been formally arrested) for luring people to fake dates where they beat them up.
The suspects said they hunted pedophiles, but at least in some of the cases they targeted young adults who expected to come to a date with 16-18 year olds.
16-18 year olds
wouldnt those technically be Ephebophiles?
16 is the age of consent in most countries. Even a surprisingly large amount of US states have it there.
In mine the age of consent is “16” or within 5 years of your current age. Whichever is lower.
You’d still get a lot of weird looks, social ostracization, and mean comments but it’d be legal.
We actually had a case recently where a 16 year old had sex with a 45 year old in the latter’s van and the police couldn’t do anything because according to her she consented and 16 is within the age of consent here.
Raising concerns about whether the age should be raised. But no one expects anything to be done about it. I mean this state has a lot of Republicans in charge and I’m sure some of their mistresses are about to turn 16 themselves…
Imported US culture (movies, TV etc) has successfully planted the idea in a lot of people that teenagers under 18 are “essentially the same as little children”. So no one cares about technicalities.
Yeah, many normal, healthy people (even Americans) started having sex long before they were 18.
Teens having sex with other teens get arrested for age of consent violations all the time, especially when they’re gay and one of the parents is a homophobe
It isn’t the medical definition at work, here. It’s the legal one.
More importantly, it would not be illegal in Austria.
If they corner anyone, tbh. This is a pretty ruinous accusation.
If they corner anyone, tbh. This is a pretty ruinous accusation
nah in the US they make you president for it
Only if you’re rich. I doubt these fuck sticks are going after rich people
No of course not, then they’d actually face consequences for it.
(Yes, I know there are people who do this to those who aren’t rich and still face consequences but I get the feeling that’s more of “the exception rather than the rule”)
Oh hey, it’s “won’t somebody please think of the children?” taken to the streets for internet clout! Absolutely nothing wrong can happen there! /s
I wish I hadn’t gone down this rabbit hole, but according to study data, 1 in 6 people want to touch kids. https://theconversation.com/a-survey-found-1-in-6-men-admit-sexual-feelings-for-children-so-is-paedophilia-increasing-218124
Don’t worry. That article was awful and the reporter is ignorant of how statistics work.
First of all, it’s not all men. It’s “all Australian men.” And second of all, it’s not 1 in 6. It’s probably more like 1 in 20. Still a high number, but not as high as the reporter makes it out to be.
The reporter ignored that the data can overlap.
Sort of like saying:
Pete would never let anyone slap him. Joe says he is willing to be slapped for $1000. He would also do it for $500. He would also do it for $200. Based on the above, THREE men out of four would be willing to be slapped for $1000 or less!!!
Reminder, those “Pedophile Hunters” don’t really give a damn about children.
They’re sadists who are out to hurt & kill
So Conservative Pedo apologists are going to be using this to hunt Lgbtq people and the current culture war of “this is child indoctrination” despite everyone knowing that’s not how this works is open season pass.
Really makes me regret not arming myself two years ago
As a main communitymember on a site with chats used by a huge amount of kids, I have seen how the internet makes it very easy, compared to oldentimes, for pedos to be in areas high in children. One of the kids there often complains about pedos and asked me to help remove them. So, with kids being a defenseless flock of animals, there ARE kids who then take a Defender role and they become the ouster of pedos. Also noteworthy is, right before I emailed an official pedocatching organization, the kid I was helping got in a confrontation and spilled the antipedo plans; which alerted the pedos and spoiled the plan. So the issue with kids doing high stakes things is they are mentally still children.
overall, pedos in kid areas, thanks to the internet, feels, to me, also on the rise. And those areas SHOULD have the pedos removed in an organized acceptable fashion; and that that doesn’t happen causes some Defender kids to think they need to do it themselves.
imo get better real official pedo prevention measures up in kid spaces to reduce vigilantiism.
Reddit has/had a problem in some of the medical subs a while back, I was reading a post where the minors were being contacted PM by them. Since alot of them are skin diseases, they were ask more to reveal more about their bodies. I’m guessing reddit never caught on immediately, because it was private messaging
Genuinely surprised and relived by the amount of common sense in this comment thread, that’s all I have to say
Here and the New York Times comments are both pretty great. This type of behavior is just plain old indefensible even when the victims aren’t sympathetic. We also know that it’s not going to stay limited to just reprehensible people
I don’t have a problem with actual pedophiles that are caught in these dragnets.
My problem arises from the lack of rigorous and well-documented investigation into the target before shite starts popping off. As the article pointed out, there is nothing wrong with a 22yo dating an 18yo. And the problem here is a sense of vindictiveness trying to manufacture targets where not all targets are guilty of pedophilia.
So: you want to take a pipe wrench to warm over a pedophile? Make sure there is oodles of evidence that clearly and unambiguously makes the person a pedophile, and sure as shite I will look the other way. But the problem is that there is no self-reinforcing framework in place within the vigilante system to ensure and enforce this threshold of evidence. And without this system, innocent people are going to get hurt or killed.
You and the people upvoting you are gravely mistaken.
This isn’t about protecting the innocent.
It is about inflicting unaccountable violence.
I’m going go assume from your instance you’re not American, but the big flaw in your logic is if you come after me with a pipe, I’m absolutely within my rights to put holes into you until you stop moving.
Vigalante justice is going to get the people who think they’re “doing a good thing” killed, and with zero consequences to the pedos who shoot them.
Perhaps a more adult, informed, nuanced take is of use here?
Sometimes criminals also shoot back at the police that come after them with guns.
In the heat of the moment, the only difference between a vigilante and a cop is the level of training, the assigned equipment, and the choice for the cop to follow well-established procedural rules. It’s only when you zoom out do you see the legal system supporting the cop. But when zoomed in and examining the individual incidents, nothing says the cop can’t come away with added lead, either.
As the article pointed out, there is nothing wrong with a 22yo dating an 18yo.
Who said there is anything wrong with this?
How is tbsi even example of pedophile rape? It is two adults.
that’s a weird thing to bring NYT tbh
Didn’t see NYT editor get caught with videos of rape of his own children on his phone recently?
Maybe NYP?
Sadly there are a lot of weirdos who think ANY AGE GAP AT ALL is basically the same as pedophilia
People get called things over fanfics and stuff. Innocent people have plenty to be afraid of
As a writer myself, I can only imagine how many the “All characters are 18 or older unless specifically said otherwise” blurb has saved. I feel like that blurb has become standard in fanworks and web original stories, even when they don’t involve sex. If there’s even the slightest chance anything that happens could be interpreted as someone’s kink, you better believe it’s there now.
I actually have one character from a series I wrote ages ago, I kind of abandoned it because I’m not edgy anymore, but I still use the lead character from time to time for art projects; commissions mostly, as she did have a fun character design being an undead gerbil and all.
I’ve retroactively upped her age from 17 to 19, just to be safe.
Though as I said, I was REALLY edgy when I wrote the book series (I was around 19 myself, I’m 33 now), so this is a change I’m actually happy to have made.
It wasn’t pornographic, it was based on the movie “I Spit On Your Grave”, only if the lead character was killed and got revenge from beyond the grave, so there was a sex scene with her, but it was intended to be immorally wrong and disturbing… and mostly talked about how this otherwise fearless street tough was suffering… It was also over quick and not elaborated on too much beyond giving the sense that “This is horrible and she’s very much not a fan” as the point of the book was that she died horribly, but was given a chance at revenge in the afterlife. (There wasn’t even a content warning, because this was so long ago that “CWs” weren’t a thing)
I’ve actually considered doing a reboot of her story and making it lighter and softer, maybe removing the rape from her death entirely.
Not because of fears of being targeted mind you, but because I like the character I created and would love to tell more stories with her, but I’m not the edgelord I was when I first wrote her and if I wrote about her today would never have handled her story the way I did.
Who said there is anything wrong with this?
How is tbsi even example of pedophile rape? It is two adults.
that’s a weird thing to bring NYT tbh
Tell me you completely failed to grok my criticisms without saying that they flew clear over your head at 10,000m
The point I was making… Is that the article brought a red herring fact that has nothing to do with anything
Why did they bring it up?
The point I was making… Is that the article brought a red herring fact that has nothing to do with anything
Why did they bring it up?
It was not a red herring in the least, and it struck to the very core of my own criticisms: while some vigilantes may be very stringent about their own investigations and targets, others may not.
In this example, these vigilantes artificially engineered a target where none was likely to ever exist. They drew the target in using the profile of a perfectly legal 18yo woman, but then turned around and claimed that the target was actually chasing the profile of an 17yo - and illegally young - girl, when he was in fact not doing so.
This was a very clear situation of entrapment by false pretenses.
That’s what police already does tbh
Also, if somebody is doing that and gets caught, I doubt they will get any sympathy from society.
Vigelanty justice only works when target deserved like the dead CEO, otherwise it just crime.
Vigelanty justice only works when target deserved like the dead CEO, otherwise it just crime.
You clearly see the world in black-and-white, when it really is made up of shades of grey.
Which means that since you haven’t already gotten the point, all the crayons and construction paper in the world isn’t going to help.
I am sorry somebody said something you didn’t like online search ;)
paedophiles are horrible people but dateline culture was the worst thing to happen to pop culture lexicon
Dateline always felt wrong and I support the wood chipper solution but only after proper due process…
With that being said if a pedo gets killed, I don’t cru about it.
There are plenty of more worth while victims in the us daily.
Fucking ice gestapo doing rendition on US street… WTF
Not advocating for all this, but if they really cared, couldn’t they just run down the registered sex offender list and start with the multiple convictions?
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It’s usually done by posing as a teenager in chats, then they get confronted at the meet-up.
Pretty solid way to identify the right person.
Pretty solid way to identify the right person.
And that’s why entrapment is a legally sanctioned investigation strategy for law enforcement.
Oh, wait, it isn’t, because of all the abuses that resulted from its use.
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These folks include presenting a false person as being of age, then switching to underage at the time of meetup when the target shows up.
A group descends upon the target who is now told they’re a pedophile.
Then the group tries to kill the person who was trying to meet what they thought was an adult.
And the perpetrators think this is justice.
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Ah, catch a predator style. Gotcha. Removed my comment because it was wrong. So far anyway.
I mean, I don’t know that ALL of them work that way, but the ones I’ve seen do. I have mixed feelings about the whole scenario.
I’m not a fan of vigilantism or mob justice save for the removal of objectively destructive and tyrannical leadership. Too many ways to get it wrong.
I’d make a guess they’re getting violent because the legal system can’t do anything with their compromised evidence. Instead of realizing they’re not the people qualified to do this work, they’re just doubling down and “handling it themselves.”
They’re getting more violent because they’re getting more views when they get violent.
They’re experiencing positive re-enforcement when they get violent with the people they’ve intrapped. They’re getting more violent because they want more of the positive online feedback they’ve been getting.
There is no lofty thought process about justice.
Same thing with the 1A auditors, aka “frauditors”.
Well honestly it seems they may be the most qualified to do this work at this point then
You got down voted but all we need to check is how catholic church has been given a blank check for what they do…
Fuck them. I won’t cry when pedo priest is given justice.
This clown regime think they can just put something like that under the rug 🤡
Except these guys never go after the Catholic Church
And that’s the real crime here and likely indicative of their bad faith behavior
I don’t know how it works in the US, and it’s certainly not perfect, but if you bring “compromised” evidences of actual child abuse, you can be sure it’ll trigger some extensive investigation. Sometimes, this leads to nothing. Sometimes, the “evidences” were not really evidence, but more of a hunch. Sometimes, it leads to actual consequences.
One issue with such a vigilante system is that sometimes, you’re wrong. That’s why due process is a thing. But the “this evidence was collected illegally, so we won’t even look up the guy” thing isn’t really a thing, as long as the evidence is better than “I’m sure of it”.
They see them everywhere except in their own home
Republicans and Church leaders everywhere are terrified.
