i am under the impression that mosquitos, as an invasive species, do not fill an important ecological niche and could go extinct and be replaced by other insects
This has been a common sentiment but it hasn’t been proven in any substantial way to my knowledge. I personally doubt it’s accurate. That’s not to say the entire ecosystem would collapse but there would likely be consequences.
That said, the other commenter is correct that there are many introduced mosquito species that could probably be eradicated from their non-native range without major ecological harm. And the species that are the worst pests in human cities tend to be introduced, so eliminating them might significantly reduce the level of bites and disease transmission for people.
Mosquitos are a nuisance to every mammal, I think if we could talk to animals this is how it would go down
Human: “So anyways we’ve been mulling over making the mosquito extinct, but it might have some consequences for yo…”
Mammals: “WTF BRO YOU COULD HAVE DONE THAT THE ENTIRE TIME! WHY TF ARE YOU STILL HERE GET RID OF THOSE FUCKERS!”
TBF humans historically have been pretty lax in doing anything simply because it was a good thing to do
Yeah I mean the ethics of how humans relate to wild mammals are so complicated and confusing that I’m not even going to go there.
I think that’s true for the Aedes egypti species at least, they’re not native in the Americas and are a main disease-spreading species
Invasive where? They can’t be invasive in general
My back patio, the little shits
Many of the most common species of mosquitos in america are invasive
Aedes aegypti and Aedes albopictus are invasive in all of North and South America
They’re invasive of the PLANET
I think in Lilo and Stitch the aliens mention in passing that they use Earth as a wildlife preserve for mosquitoes.
They’re invading my personal space
I can tolerate most pests, even cockroaches, but I draw the line at bedbugs. Don’t care if they have any purpose, just fuck them
That’s usually the case, but it’s just not true for mosquitos. Entomologist quoted in this Nature article:
“If we eradicated them tomorrow, the ecosystems where they are active will hiccup and then get on with life. Something better or worse would take over.”
There are many types of mosquitoes, but only a few suck blood. It’s the bloodsuckers they’re talking about when they say no one would miss them.
I thought some of the specific mosquitoes that prey on humans can be killed with little side effects. Or is that just my cognitive bias dreaming of a better world
If screworms went extinct there wouldn’t be any animals starving… same with a lot of pests. guinea worm for example.
Roaches? What?
Smoking roaches gets you high.
And that’s important to the nitrogen cycle?
Yeah, if the nitrogen cycle wants to get stoned
There are thousands of species of cockroach on earth, and like a dozen that can be invasive in human homes. It’s okay to kill the invasive ones, there wouldn’t be as many of them in as many places without us anyway.
Species do not exist for a purpose. They are important in their ecosystem, that’s all.
And even if they don’t have a role, that doesn’t make their existence any less valuable.
Ok but I still think the mosquito thing is worth a try. I’m even willing to live alongside wasps but mosquitoes gotta go!
The mosquito thing is known to be false, and people only ever talk about extinguishing half a dozen species of them at most, that are invasive on most parts.
Half a dozen out of 6k+ lmao
I’m willing to pump up other insects to get rid of mosquitoes
Can I be an insect?
…🥺
👉👈::bonk::
We’ll pump you full of larvae
I’m prepping my ovipositors as we speak
Then do what you can to promote dragonflies.
(Don’t know how to better link this old comment.)
https://photon.lemmy.world/post/lemmy.world/19193004?thread=0.12060765.12088433
tl;dr: Just read it.
I call BS on at least some of those claims. Citation or GTFO
The mosquito one is absolutely BS, there’s 6k+ species of mosquitoes but only like a couple bite humans
The bats and shit will be fine, it’s time to eradicate mosquitoes!
Agreed. There is a method that is simple, cheap, and non-toxic (to everything else).
BTI? checks link. Yeahh bti.
Also fucks up fungus gnats
I was gonna comment for anyone who didn’t want to read the schpeel that it was just mosquito dunks (or BTI) and any plant parent knows about them.
In all honesty, the article said mosquitos in general, not just the ones that bite humans.
Nothing evolves to have a purpose, something just mutated by chance that happens to serve a beneficial function to the environment and other organisms
Also I’m pretty sure birds, bats and plants can eat other bugs
What’s the statistics on bug food for birds and plants ?
Statistics on bug food??? For birds and plants??? Do you want the whole thing dumped here in the comments? Or do you mean “do birds eat insects”? Yes. A lot.
Diets are highly species specific, but mosquitos are generally less than 3% of the diet for most birds and bats. Too small, don’t fly around at the correct time of day/night, and pretty agile, so they aren’t supper important for most birds and bats.
Also, usually they hatch in the billions all at once and die within a few weeks so there’s a very limited amount of time that they even can be preyed on as food. Their strategy (many of them, not all species) is to overwhelm any predators with numbers.
Explain humans. Checkmate, scientists!
Humanity is the CEO of earth.
Counterpoint: animals which are clearly not intelligently designed, like pandas and horses
OK, but all the ticks can go die in a fire
How about they all die in a chicken tummy
If humans went extinct, the planet gets better?
There would be no one left to value it as such. It would simply continue to exist.
So yes. Better. Please excuse my colleague, they have ass burgers
Tremendously! We’re like a tumour
Open Ecofacism in the comments, what have we come to.
Let’s hear it, what group of people are you suggesting we “excise”, brown shirt?
Don’t be weird
Sounds like something a wasp would say
Wasps are actually pretty cool by in large. I’ve only been stung twice by them. Once when I was a kid and it sucked and also don’t remember what I was doing. The most recent time was a few weeks ago. They built a nest in the control area of a dryer I was selling. I stuck my hand right up in their nest, and felt what I thought was electric shocks despite this dryer being unplugged for a few days. I don’t blame them and the pain subsided in minutes(also wasn’t very bad to begin with). And they are a critical player in agricultural pest control. I run into wasps all the time and have only been stung twice in forty years. Wasps, like spiders, are bros as far as I’m concerned.
Alas, I legitimately have spheksophobia. I appreciate their role in nature, but I don’t want them anywhere near me.
That’s fair. But as someone who rarely gives a fuck about my own, let alone others around me, safety. They seem timid to sting. I’ve been stung as many times by bees, and only when I was young and extremely reckless.
But you do you homie. Please just don’t kill non ground dwellers haphazardly.
Wasps are just fine. We’re recently learning their tiny brains have enough pattern recognition to recognize/remember a human face. Guess how they feel about humans screaming and waving and spazzing out? They never touch my pet pig, because he doesn’t hassle 'em. Let a nest grow under my front door, deliberately avoided looking at them, stayed chill. No problem.
HORNETS OTOH CAN DIE IN A FUCKING FIRE.
Yeah screw those ground dwellers!
Also I’m gonna need some pig tax. Post picture immediately of that cute mfer!