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When the music’s over…
i like you clarence.
He was so great as Jim Morrison in Oliver Stone’s Doors movie. The only one who could have played that role.
Here are some cool facts about the movie:
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- Val Kilmer didn’t just play Jim Morrison—he became him. Before CGI, before deepfakes, there was Val Kilmer. He spent six months rehearsing, learned 50 Doors songs, and recorded vocals so convincing that Ray Manzarek couldn’t tell them apart from Jim’s. Kilmer even paid out of his own pocket to film a full performance demo for Oliver Stone. But it wasn’t just mimicry—it was method acting gone full Lizard King. He wore Morrison’s leather pants, spoke like him between takes, and according to crew memos, requested not to be addressed by his real name on set. Now that’s rock ’n’ roll commitment—or possession.
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- The real Patricia Kennealy plays the priestess in her own fictionalized wedding scene. Talk about meta. Rock journalist and Wiccan high priestess Patricia Kennealy, who actually participated in a handfasting ceremony with Jim Morrison in real life, appears in the movie—but not as herself. Instead, she plays the priestess marrying Meg Ryan’s Pamela Courson and Kilmer’s Morrison. The kicker? Kennealy has denounced the film’s portrayal of her, claiming much of her dialogue was given to Courson’s character instead. She called it a betrayal, but in a twist worthy of Morrison’s own poetry, she helped perform her own cinematic erasure.
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- The script was filtered through dozens of people—including Morrison’s parents and Elektra Records. Oliver Stone didn’t just write a rock movie—he had to negotiate with lawyers, estates, labels, and parents. Morrison’s family only allowed dream-like flashbacks. Pamela Courson’s parents restricted any implication that she influenced Jim’s death. Meanwhile, the band members weren’t all on the same page: Ray Manzarek refused to participate, while John Densmore and Robby Krieger consulted on the film, each bringing their own version of the myth. The result? A movie as much shaped by censorship and grief as by art and music.
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- Kilmer’s live performances in the film weren’t lip-synced—they were sung live over original master tapes. Most music biopics fake it with overdubs or studio trickery. Not The Doors. Val Kilmer sang live, blending his voice with the original multitrack recordings of the Doors, minus Jim’s lead vocals. The effect was chilling. He rehearsed daily and performed so hard during the five-day shoot of “The End” at the Whisky a Go Go recreation that he nearly lost his voice. This wasn’t a musical performance—it was a séance, captured on film and played back like a ghostly echo from the Summer of Love.
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- Nearly everyone turned it down before Oliver Stone picked up the torch. Before Stone got behind the camera, the Doors biopic passed through Quentin Tarantino, Francis Ford Coppola, Martin Scorsese, and more. Bono, Michael Hutchence, Johnny Depp, and even John Travolta were considered for Morrison. But it was Stone’s obsession and Kilmer’s uncanny embodiment that finally got the film made. Stone even had to abandon Evita (sorry, Madonna) to make room for the psychedelic circus that The Doors became. The studio fights, lawsuits, casting drama—it’s a miracle the film ever made it to theaters. But like the band it depicts, it survived in chaos and emerged as something unforgettable.
https://www.thatericalper.com/2025/04/02/5-wildly-unknown-facts-about-the-doors-movie/--
Thanks so much for writing this! That movie was an absolute trip. Got me way into the doors and trust me, it was obvious that Kilmer became Morrison by knowing very little outside just about watching the movie. But all these details you wrote here make it so much more interesting!
I remember stopping the DVD to Google if he was actually singing because it felt so goddamned authentic to the actor on screen, and yet also sounded almost exactly like him Morrison.
A helluva movie. Truly one of the greats.
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RIP to one of the Batmen I grew up watching. I used to love going through my dad’s DVD collection and watching batman forever.
No one has mentioned The Salton Sea.
There’s a peck here with an acorn pointed at me!
Does anyone else have a mandela effect about Val Kilmer being dead already? I feel like I have read about his death mutliple times over the past decade and then had a mandela effect that I thought he had already died, but then also when I heard any story about him I also have a mandela effect that I thought he was dead.
No, but I knew he’s been pretty bad off for a long time
He was very sick for a bit and hid it for awhile so there was lots of talk about his health for a bit then he disappeared from the public eye for awhile because he was fighting cancer and recovering. He never rejoined the public eye to the degree he used to be. He was in Top Gun Maverick though which I remember being kind of a big deal because he hadn’t been in much for awhile and of course had had lots of trouble with speech following the cancer I believe.
In the immortal words of Socrates, I drank what?
RIP Doc!
Still my favorite role for him.
Does any body know what movie this gif is from? Or the name of the actor so I can go through his filmography.
I’m looking for a movie my dad and I watched once a long time ago. I didn’t give the movie to much of a chance back then. Just liked the quality time. I think it had this actor in it. Id really like to find and rewatch it.
That’s Robert Redford in the film Jeremiah Johnson.
The movie is good, but it’s very possible that Jeremiah Johnson IRL was a murder hobo.
Thanks, didn’t recognize him with a beard.
No worry, I didn’t either until it was pointed out to me.
The Saint will be missed.
Whew, thought i was gonna be the only weirdo that enjoyed that one.
There’s No Normal Life There’s Just Life. Now Get On With It.
I got a reply from him on Reddit once. Well, maybe his assistant, but whatever. What a bummer. Definitely thought is peak role was on Top Secret. Loved that film so much! Guess I’m going to have to go watch it again
Tombstone and kiss kiss bang bang are my favorites
Well damn. :(
Not entirely surprising I guess, but still a sad one. Somehow stayed just a touch under the radar despite some of the most iconic roles of the 80s and 90s.
Under the radar? What?
Just that whatever level of fame he achieved, his talent and performances warranted more, IMHO, and between being choosy on projects, the occasional commercial dud, having a few of his greatest performances before he was a major name, and finding success in supporting roles while having “classic Hollywood” looks, there was just a disconnect. I have enjoyed his work much more than I have Tom Cruise’s, for instance.
IIRC he had throat cancer and why he slowed down acting
“Wyatt Earp is my friend.”
That scene always gets me, it’s one of the greatest in all cinema.
“hell I got lots of friends”
… “I don’t.”
God damn that scene gets me every time.
Can’t forget Chris, from Heat. Took one in his neck. RIP