Wait, why do I even need an immune system if the bloodletting keeps the bad spirits out anyway?
Cos not every attack comes from a bleeding injury. Joking of course. This guy is nuts.
Valid conclusion, I’m cancelling my health insurance rn. More money for scratchers, hell yeah!
He’s right. I kept the wound open and completely bled out. Lost all of my blood. But it’s worth it because i didn’t get Tetanus.
Did you know you can stop rabies by having someone chop your head off?
No, you amputate the torso, it’s different
Did you know you can stop rabies by having someone chop your head off?
That’s probably the preferred treatment over dying of rabies induced violent psychosis.
I wonder what it’s like to be in a rabies induced violent psychosis. Also why it’s like while you’re still somewhat sane, but fear water.
It’s most likely like a really bad panic attack. One that just gets worse and worse while you get more and more confused on why anything is happening, and everything becomes a phobia as you start to realize you’re on your way to the grave but no longer have the faculties to rationalize out why it’s happening any more.
Iirc there’s video footage out there of it, but it’s pretty disturbing.
It looks awful. I saw a video of a kid in the early stages and it really makes your heart sink. Don’t fuck around with neurological pathogens.
I hear you get banned from hydrohomies
Aww man.
Rabies is like my number one fear, next to prions. Nightmarish stuff.
Either that or get lots of shots in the stomach? (They still do that right?)
According to the CDC, it’s four doses, preferably in the arm, over a two week period. I think I remember reading about someone who worked at a rescue or rehab that had to get several shots in the shin, around the bite site, but I don’t remember why.
Four~five shots is just immunization, there’s also two shots of immunoglobulin… That one is usually in the affected area if it is known, otherwise it’s in the bottocks. And also probably tetanus shot if you’re not up to date…
Source, had a bat in my house a few years ago… Good times!
Yikes! I had no idea about the immunoglobulin. It’s better than the alternative, but I hope you never have to go through that again.
I would rather it not happen again, but if I ever had a doubt I’d do it again in a heartbeat! Not a pleasant experience, but I’m not gonna lie it’s a great story to recount at parties!
What I found really crazy is thinking of the anxiety it would have caused us if we had been south of the border (my partner is from the US). Even the co-pay might have been thousands of dollars and, being pretty broke at the time (they were a student and I had lost my job to COVID), we might have thought twice about getting treatment. Out of pocket, being that I no longer had insurance, it would have been probably tens of thousands for the two of us.
I believe that only works if you manage to catch it extremely early. Once it advances past a certain point, they don’t have a treatment to my knowledge (though I’d be happy to hear I’m out of date on that…).
It’s not extremely early. Rabies can stay dormant for a very long time, but you can still treat it if you’re not showing symptoms.
Ah, maybe I’m thinking of something else then. Thanks!
If you get bitten by a rabid animal and go get the shots immediately after your chance of actually dying from rabies is very, very low. The studies I know claim it’s very close to 100% effective, which is understandable because of the very long incubation period rabies has, if you have antibodies it doesn’t stand a chance.
There is the Milwaukee protocol, but that is almost never successful, usually results in brain damage, and has only been used a handful of times. Also it’s banned in many locations from the inherent risk and lack of evidence for it working at all.
You get two in the arm, and one or two in the ass. Then a fifth later iirc. We had to get our rabies vaccines about a decade ago. A decent number, but none in the stomach.
Nice thing is, for the next five years, you are almost immune, and only need a booster if bitten again.
I’d always get the booster though. Rabies ain’t worth gambling on.
I spit my drink out to this comment. Thank you
They’re right, no one who has ever bled has died.
And no one with an immune system has ever died of an infection ever.
My immune system is literally trying to kill me. I don’t trust that murderous bastard with anything.
I wish there was just a button you could push to make people feel shame.
shame 🔔
shame 🔔
They asked for a button not a comment
oh so we’re wrapping around to the 1820’s now too
We’ve been on that path for a bit now.
Although bloodletting is still an actual treatment for stuff, but now it’s called therapeutic phlebotomy. (source, I have to do it for high blood count)
I can get on board with the cocaine and laudanum. Not so much the mercury and bloodletting.
Hold the radium and heavy metals but bring on the leaches!
America - it’s dumber here.
more* dumber
The dubmerest
All you have to do is tell the tetanus “I do not consent,” and by law, it cannot infect you.
It’s best if you post that on Facebook for all to share.
order corn
Drink Ovaltine.
Oh great, a “sovereign organism” movement…
If it were a legitimate tetanus infection, the body has ways of shutting it down.
Share this post with five people and tetanus will seize infecting you.
Tetanus is fucking terrifying. I’m happy to have chemicals to protect me from that.
My last tetanus shot hurt for 3 weeks straight. But I ended up not breaking my spine with muscle convulsions, so I think it’s a pretty good trade off.
That’s probably on whoever gave you the shot. If you hit fat or a tendon with an IM shot it hurts for a while.
Yeah mine was mildly sore for like 24 hours tops and no other symptoms, super not bad
Yeah, I have to do testosterone shots, and my left leg doesn’t seem to have any good spots, so it usually has a painful knot for like 10 days.
It’s not chemicals that protect from tetanus; it’s the dead tetanus bacterium the vaccine contains that train the immune system to recognize the threat.
And what are the dead tetanus bacterium made of? Chemicals 😜
It’s chemicals all the way down!
I recommend 1g of aspirin and a good bloodletting.
Was there aspirin in the age of bloodletting?
In the form of willow bark, yes, it was. Salicylic acid, the primary compound in aspirin, is also found in willow bark, which has been used therapeutically for 3500+ years.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/bjh.14520?sid=nlm%3Apubmed
Nice knowledge! A helluva lot of alcohol was consumed then too, probably even “prescribed” to take with a tincture for whatever the person was suffering from. Willow bark + alcohol + blood letting likely killed more than a few.
That’s for pansies.
You can buy warfarin off the shelf in the form out pest poison.
If you wanna set a world record for death by blood loss, that’s the way to do it.
Remember kids:
All things are poison, and nothing is without poison; the dosage alone makes it so a thing is not a poison.
—Paracelsus, 1538
Often condensed to “The dose makes the poison.”
Also, death by warfarin overdose is a slow, bloody, painful way to go. Don’t self medicate with fucking rat poison or anything stupid.
It‘s technically correct, if you prevent your wound from stopping to bleed, you won‘t get ill. That is due to the fact, that you‘ll be dead.
Just give the idiot tetanus. Again and again.
I think the dude there already has idiot tetanus, or maybe it’s idiot headanus.
No child left behind was a travesty
Nothing can enter your bloodstream if you just let it bleed.
Exactly. Just like how fish cannot swim upstream no matter how slow or fast the flow is.
Salmons just don’t know better. If they went to fish school, they would be unable to do it!
What is tetanus
Assuming you’re actually asking. It’s a disease caused by a bacteria in the soil when it gets in your blood stream.
People often think it’s caused by getting stabbed or cut with rusty metal but it’s just correlation rather than causation. Something metal that’s been sitting outside is just usually the way that you’ll get cut and if it’s outside it’s probably rusty.
You could have clean rusty metal not give it to you, and brand new metal or a stick give it to you.
Tetanus is also known as “Lockjaw” due to the symptoms.
It’s preventable by a mildly uncomfortable vaccine that everyone acts like is the most painful shot ever.
To add on: the bacteria are anaerobic, meaning they thrive in environments without air. This is also the rusty nail effect–the nail will push the bacteria into your body where there is little air. You most likely will not get sick from tetanus from a superficial wound.
They’re not entirely wrong, which is frustrating.
Tetanus is an anaerobic bacteria which means exposure to air will kill it. If a cut is bleeding that means it’s at least partially exposed and may prevent tetanus. The reason people tend to get tetanus infections from puncture wounds is because the wound heals up and seals out the air.
Also, letting a cut bleed for a bit is one way of flushing any foreign material from the wound, which can help. But you still need antibiotics and a bandage to reduce the risk of infection.
Yeah, it’s incredibly frustrating when propaganda uses partially true information to push their agenda. From a first aid perspective, letting the wound bleed a bit and get oxygen exposure can reduce the initial infection. You should absolutely get the vaccine though because why fucking risk it?
Ah right, and that’s why people think it’s related to rust. Because most people getting a puncture would probably got it by standing on a nail, which was out in the elements and thus rusty…
My doc once explained that nails, or anything that causes a puncture wound, are worse than a cut because they compress tissue within the wound, creating places where there is no exposure to oxygen.
Yeah I’d believe that
Plus the rust is caused by iron removing ambient oxygen, giving anaerobic bacteria a safe place to hide
Thanks, I was just wondering how it can survive outside the body before infection if being outside the body kills it.
It’s like only doing the first step of CPR.
A: “You got to lay them on their back.”
B: “And then?”
A: “No that’s it.”
B: “Isn’t there chest compressions or something involved?”
A: “Nope, chest compressions are dangerous and cause people to break bones. Plus almost 100% of people who were not laying on their backs ended up dying after their heart stops. So, laying someone on their back is all you need to do.”
