LMAO Nintendo buyers are not even part of this conversation. Their community is basically tied with the loyalty they have provided for years and now it’s time to cash it in
How well does Dolphin run on the SteamDeck?
Runs great, been playing though the Metroid Pimes series with PrimeHacks. Solid 60fps
Ugh you’ve just given me a new Deck project!
I thought you meant the file browser Dolphin for a second lol, which is the filebrowser the Steam Deck comes with by default.
They should switch to thunar for this reason and this reason only.
Really really well. Haven’t encountered a single game that didn’t run flawlessly.
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Switch 2 proceeds to outsell the deck by a factor of 50
Haha. Not in the US, thank you Mr. Trump very much.
Steam is clearly playing the long game with Steam Deck and Steam OS, they’re basically trying to slowly normalize portable gaming pcs. If they achieve this Nintendo will not be just facing competition from Steam Deck but from multiple devices from the likes of Asus, Lenovo, Dell (Alienware).
Even PS Portal sales is not that far from Deck. You know, the handheld that people said won’t sell
Absolutely. Nintendo has huge fanbase with most of them not caring about Nintendo ripping them off and Nintendo has some of the most highly regarded and iconic gaming IPs in the world and Nintendo has insane marketing budget behind the Switch 2 and the switch doubles as a home console.
I love the Deck but it’s not going to outsell the Switch and I think Valve isn’t interested in pulling people away from the Switch. Valve made the Deck primarily for Steam users and that’s who they’re targeting.
Mario Kart on Steam? It’s more likely than you think.
On the Steam Deck? Possible. On Steam? I guess technically possible if you add a third party game. But actually on Steam? Nintendo can’t even give a tech demo out for free, I can’t imagine what would have to happen for Nintendo to put their games on Steam.
You can also play Minecraft on the Steam Deck and technically you can also play Apex Legends on the Deck (if you install Windows and play through that), but all of it depends on the user being a tinkerer. But the casual gamer is not a tinkerer which means those possibilities have next to no impact on the wider market.
I have a feeling there will be an increase in tinkerers as the cost of staying casual continues to increase to unreasonable levels.
“Add a Non-Steam Game to My Library…”
Was $90 the minimum? I thought it was the maximum.
We don’t know tariff cost yet
1 billion dollars
It’s neither. They have announced two game prices so far. One was $80 the other was $70. I’m of the opinion that they are going to start implementing a kind of tiered pricing, but that’s just a shot in the dark.
Maximum is only limited by greed of corporations.
$90 for physical, $80 for digital. You get to save $10 so Nintendo can later take it off their marketplace, and remove your access to the game.
Pretty sure this was confirmed to be untrue, at least for US pricing.
Correct. UK and EU pricing has more expensive physical, I believe.
yea, in the us it’s 80$ for both physical and digital games (at least the new mario kart i believe donkey kong is 70$)
which is still way too much, like, why make up numbers when the reality is already bad cmon
It’s not even way too much. Plenty of big games cost that much in the 90s. Accounting for inflation and the fact that games are way more expensive to produce nowadays, $70 is extremely reasonable.
You get to save $10 so Nintendo can later take it off their marketplace, and remove your access to the game.
The shitty part is that I don’t think physical games are even exempt from that problem. Excluding whichever Switch 2 games are use the “key card” option versus “memory card” (key card basically just being a transferrable download code), we see games like Tears of the Kingdom being nearly unplayable without the day 1 patch. Or other games like Splatoon 3 that simply don’t include the full game on the cart and prompt you to download launch-day content after booting it up.
Neither of these games will be very playable even with physical cards once the Switch eShop servers go down for good.
We can only hope the current standard of backwards compatibility lasts indefinitely so all digital stores can basically be like Steam going forward and keep their content available across all future generations. But even that is a stretch when who even knows what the state of CPU architecture will look like in 15-20 years.
ultimate
A hacked Switch is a pretty good Nintendo piracy device, too.
If you can find one without the updated firmware
I got mine at launch. It’ll be the gift that keeps on giving since Switch games are going to continue to be released at least until 2026.
My sole motivation for ever buying a Nintendo product would be for Pokémon.
I’m not saying you should stop, but I am saying people like you are the reason pokemon is so bad these days.
Seriously, a real fan needs to have standards, otherwise you’re just a simp. Scarlet and Violet should have been the final straw - though sword and shield should have been better too…
I am still not going to buy one. Just that it’s the only reason I can think to get one
Me too except that they’ve already indicated pretty much to everyone that they’re not going to in any way innovate on the idea.
The pricing of this is really going to fuck them.
BotW should be like $10 by now. The fucking DLC for it still costs twice that.
Switch 2 is going to be a repeat of the Wii U disaster.
“No Timmy, I’m not paying 500 dollars for Mario Kart. Don’t you already have that game?”
I wish it wasn’t true, because the wii u had some great games and ideas, and the switch 2 definitely will as well.
But yeah, a HUGE portion of Nintendo’s sales come from being the budget, kid friendly option. When a parent sees a ps5, xbox and switch 2 all lined up for roughly the same price, Nintendo isn’t going to be the default choice it once was.
And it kinda sucks because all people do is hate on the switch for its lower performance. The only way to get better performance is to put more expensive parts in leading to a higher price. They can’t win in some ways.
what are you talking about botw is free now
Where?
🏴☠️
Yeah but then you have to muck around with emulation.
I mean you could always pirate on device, though easier said than done on Switch (but the Wii U is rather easy to mod, would 100% recommend)
Modding an unpatched V1 Switch is pretty easy, the most difficult part is there’s like 2 main guides and if you try to get support from one group and they get clue that you’ve looked at/used the other guide they’ll say your config is trash and a ban risk lol
Everyone knows what Steam does better, but there are a few things I wish they’d improve :
- more granular touch display
- higher resolution screen + larger higher res touch pad surfaces
- TMR sticks
- a REAL dock with simpler connection of some kind that doesn’t require a weird USB-C connected cable dangling off the top (but still would support 3rd party docks with that USB-C port)
- better vibration motors
- pressure sensitive face buttons (this hasn’t been done standard since the PS2 era, but would open up the possibility of PROPER PS2 emulation for games like MGS2 and MGS3, which STILL hasn’t been done right thanks to the disappearance of pressure sensitive face buttons)
- hot-swappable batteries that can be charged in the Deck or externally if needed
- haptic triggers
- NFC
- built-in microphone array to allow voice chat + isolation
- built-in simple web cam / IR sensor array for face tracking / video chat / streamer setup
- advanced optional stylus with pressure sensitivity / pointer function similar to a wii-mote that can be stored / recharged on top magnetically / wirelessly
I already made a joke similar to this in another thread in another community, but… SteamOS does! What Windon’t.
This take is in bad faith, because most people that are going to buy a switch 2 already have a switch and you can play older games on it and it’s only 10$ to upgrade if there is a new edition for a game you have. And it’s true that Nintendo doesn’t really discount older games but you can buy them used for cheap.
because most people that are going to buy a switch 2 already have a switch
What, why would they buy another one then?
only 10$ to upgrade
a game you have.
Jeez, what a good deal, so I didn’t own shit to begin with and now I have to pay 10 bucks to get “an upgrade” that I won’t own either.
We won’t own shit and we will be happily serving our overlords, right?
To be honest, the majority of people buying a Switch 2 is gonna be parents with children, and nostalgia suckers.
You don’t have to pay for it, it will work as is.
Switch is versatile, can be played in more than one way
can’t even use it as a web browser because they’re too scared of exploits
they’re so scared of web exploits that they chose to castrate the JS performance of their own eshop, limiting sales of new games
Clearly you don’t know much about the steam deck if you think the switch is more versatile
For a casual user? Definitely he Switch wins here.
If you have experience in Linux it opens up a lot more possibilities on the Steam Deck, but likewise, you can technically do that on a Switch too.
What are you talking about? You can click “go to desktop mode” on your steam deck and it will bring you to a desktop… like a normal computer…
You can’t do that on a Switch, or if you can you have to be an expert DIYer.
Don’t insult “casual” users by suggesting an optional desktop view where you can use your Steam Deck like a normal computer is “toooo much for the casual user”. Not it isn’t. The desktop view lets you use any web browser you want, lots of people need to use web browsers, that is only one example of why a “casual” user might use desktop mode on the Steam Deck.
No you way off the mark here, and so is Nintendo.
I can install Linux on a Switch. Hell, you can emulate Switch games on a Switch.
Go to desktop mode is not a “casual” feature at all. They barely know how to set the wifi connection, let alone manage a Linux environment…
I can install Linux on a Switch
I don’t need to install Linux on my Steam Deck, the software and device was designed from the ground up as a Linux computer.
I can also install Android on the Switch if you want. I don’t care. I have both and complete freedom om both. The Switch is simply the more comfortable option hardware wise, the SD is nice for the niche stuff.
You are making an absurd and obtuse argument, my Steam Deck functions out of the box as a normal computer.
Steam Deck runs SteamOS 3.0, a Linux-based operating system (OS) built on Arch Linux and the KDE Plasma desktop. It’s open source with some closed source components. Here’s a quick overview:
You are suggesting DIY installing android (eeww) as opposed to hmm… I forgot let me check how I get to the desktop on a vanilla out of the box Steam Deck running Linux.
Hold down your Steam Deck’s power button, and select “Switch to Desktop.” Wait a few seconds, and that’s it
Your argument is embarassingly bad, stop spreading lazy narratives when you don’t know what you are talking about.
The PSP was launched in 2004, could be connected to your TV and even could be used to play on the PS3, so yeah is as versatile as a touch screen PSP.
Hold my beer while I connect multiple displays to the steam deck, a keyboard & mouse, xbox & playstation controllers and wii motes.
I can’t talk to my friends while I play my deck? News to me
No, you’re not allowed. You need to pay special Talking To Friends license
Pretty sure you can.
I mean it’s a Linux computer. So you could prob just call your friends on discord.
Exactly
Balatro on mobile is $10 why would you need anything else
Based
i also bought it on my steamdeck so i can play it on slighter bigger small screen
Ah yes, the Deck vs. Switch debate. One offers performance and affordability, the other offers nostalgia at premium prices. Choose your fighter: the powerhouse or the Pokémon tax.
I still have my GBC with pokemon yellow and a flash cart with (almost, missing the new ones) every GB and GBC rom in existence on it that supports save states, and can emulate many switch games on the deck iirc if I were somehow nostalgic for those, and in fact can emulate basically any nintendo game from history I may be nostalgic for better than the switch, among other games nintendo didn’t make.
Which one is the real nostalgia machine? (Hint: It’s the Gameboy Color lol)
Palworld for the win.
Haha right? Palworld really said ‘what if Pokémon had guns and capitalism’ and somehow made it work
Pokémon with black Jack and hookers.
And slavery.
And
colonialismbase building
You can emulate almost any Nintendo game from before 2016 on a steamdeck. Just got to wait a few more years for the switch emulators to get efficient enough to run well on the steam deck!
“Powerhouse”
Considering the Steam Deck can run just about every console game ever made up to PS2 gen (and a good amount made after), I’d say they have the Switch 2 beat on nostalgia.
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Yeah but not the memberberries kind!
Nintendo’s been hitting the memberberries for so long that 20 year old games have memberberry moments in them.
2005 GC games: Mario kart, smash, Mario party, animal crossing, Luigi’s mansion, Metroid, zelda
2025 SW games: Mario kart, smash, Mario party, animal crossing, Luigi’s mansion, Metroid, Zelda
I play Steel Panthers on my steam deck, a DOS game from the 90s
I know I’m not the standard pokemon fan, but showdown still exists if you just like to battle. The in-game gameplay of pokemon has always been a little lackluster to me and I don’t like VGC/doubles.
ROM hacks can be fun, and I have done some self imposed challenge runs. I can’t see myself finishing any of the Prof oak challenges I did without emu speedup.
