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    3 of these are real examples things the people on the right did, the last is a meme made to make fun of feminists. Don’t get me wrong, there’s a level of feminism that goes too far, I just have yet to see an example of this in real life. There’s something about women in general that makes society eager dismiss them offhand as silly and ridiculous whenever they have opinions.

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    And ‘assholes’ just appear at random? Nothing in these groups increases or decreases the asshole frequency? Imagine if we thought of all culture that way. Forget about progressive politics changing people’s minds and thereby their behavior. “Some people are just ‘assholes’, what are you gonna do?”

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      Assuming the probability of assholiness based on culture is how you treat cultures unequally. You fight assholiness in the individual level. You can’t change a culture like that. You can only educate people and they will change their own culture.

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        Not all beliefs are equal. If you hold by a holy text that says that women can (and should) be bought and sold or are otherwise ‘lesser’ than men, or you revere an imbecilic demagogue who claims that all immigrants are rapists, murderers and gang members, then yes, the “culture” of your group will have a higher probability of any given person being an asshole than a group of randomly-selected Humanists, for example. To equivocate that all belief systems are equal from a moral perspective is deeply naive.

        ETA: I am not a humanist, because I believe that there is a point at which violence is necessary and justified to protect other lives and the rights thereof.

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        Assuming the probability of assholiness based on culture is how you treat cultures unequally.

        If you agree that bad ideas can be part of cultures (large or small) to a higher or lesser degree, it follows that some cultures have a higher frequency of people with the need for the individual ‘education’ you’re suggesting.

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    I dont get it, which minority am I supposed to blame for all my problems now?

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    As much as I resent religion, I do believe it’s fundamentally a human problem. People everywhere have a tendency to corrupt beliefs in order to justify being assholes to one another.

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      Religon was created as a control mechanism for governments that didn’t have the capability to enforce laws.

      It’s a method to make communities self police.

      Today it is a dangerous tool left lying around for any con man to pick up and weild

      That’s why fascist movements always have a religious/nationalist base.

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      100%

      That being said, dogmatic belief systems, which tend to be common in religion, seem to act as force multipliers in this regard.

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        Yeah especially if such dogmatic beliefs make people think dumb or unethical stuff is somehow okay.

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      That is cowardly, that’s one of the few things its good for. Maybe fixing a wobbly table leg, and when you’re out of toilet paper.

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        Reminds me a of a joke "Why do people in North Dakota spend so much time at the bar?

        Because Colonel Custer told them to hang out there until he got back."

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          Equality achieved in mid 90s. (adjusting for voluntary life choices of parenting full time) Much more men than women dropped out of labour force since.

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            Well, technically, it was never equal numbers and the gap between has remained the same, but you could argue that maternity and also elderly gender disparity contribute to that, yeah.

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        How many men died over there though. Those jobs became vacant

        Honestly your comment triggers the fuck out of me. Are you saying women had it worse in ww2? lol should men returning from war not be entitled to their job back?

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          To explain your downvotes.

          Women were encouraged to join the work force on top of all of the parenting/wifely duties they were saddled with for generations. This was a lot of work, but it also provided a glimpse into financial independence and equal placement in the workplace for the first time.

          But when the war was over, women were encouraged to jump right back into the kitchen.

          should men returning from war not be entitled to their job back

          There are many jobs that need to be done to make society work. There are plenty of jobs at home that they could have taken.

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            I feel as if that’s kind of fair given that the men were the ones who had to die without any choice in the matter, no?

            Also I didn’t know I was downvoted as I have that turned off lol

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    I hate God.

    1. The concept
    • God is an outdated hypothesis presented to explain reality at a time when the scientific method didn’t exist.
    • Testable variations of this hypothesis have never succeeded at proving the existence of God. Untestable variations are useless.
    • Different communities of people have weaponized the concept of God to somehow prove their moral frameworks as objective reality to impose them on others.
    • The ruling class has weaponized God to accumulate more power.
    1. The character
    • If God indeed exists, God is an asshole. If they are indeed the creator of this reality, pain and suffering exist because of them. Assuming they are all powerful, they can eliminate pain and suffering while still achieving their terminal goal behind the creation of this reality. Unless the terminal goal is causing pain and suffering itself. Both explanations point to God being an asshole.
    • Another branch of this argument can be that “God cannot eliminate pain and suffering to achieve the terminal goal, which is NOT to cause pain and suffering”. This means that there are certain rules that apply to God too. Meaning, that God is not all powerful. God is just someone MORE powerful than us. We are at the mercy of God. To achieve the terminal goal, God is willing to put us through pain and suffering. God is evil. As God is bound by certain rules, and is not all powerful, a possibility exists of couping God. God must be couped.
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    ITT people missing the point and projecting their own beliefs and values.

    This is how people “strawman”. It’s easy to hate on atheists if you just see them all as their asshole members. The truth is that any group has their violent nutjobs and vocal minorities. You can’t just say all Muslims are terrorists just the same as you can’t say feminists are hateful crazies.

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      There is a difference between god as a character and God as a concept; the former one is (in my belief) nonexistent, the latter exists as long as his worshipper worship him.

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      I guess you can hate god as a concept. God can be proven to exists in human minds (no esoteric stuff, just psychology and sociology). You can hate this scientific fact and what it means for humankind.

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      Tbf, you can think god isn’t “real” while also hating the concept of “god” for being responsible for so much war and division throughout history (among other reasons.)

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        Well in that case, if a religious person accuses you that you hate their god, it’s still not true. Because that religious person thinks of their god as a real entity, while you hate their concept of god. The target of that hate is not the same.

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      Since we are already being unhelpful: Atheist don’t all are unsure about if God exists. Some may believe God does not exist, some don’t care. Some believers might be unsure or don’t care either.

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      I dunno. I’m not entirely an atheist (my religion is blasphemy. If the gods exist, they like a target) but I can hate something I don’t think exists. Some of those deities are godsdamned genocidal maniacs and pedophiles.