Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. advocated for the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine during a visit to West Texas on Sunday to comfort two families whose children died of the disease.

https://archive.ph/hIrAC

    • @[email protected]
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      Is that link an excerpt from the book, or some kind of fanfic? It’s not sourced at all, but it reads like it’s from the book? If not, it’s a pretty strange way to format a wiki page…

      • Gordon Calhoun
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        Far as I can tell, it’s a straight excerpt from the book. I was surprised to see it transcribed there.

  • @[email protected]
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    Most effective is to get a vaccine before being exposed to Measles ffs.

    Why do you think we give herpes vaccines to pre-teens? It’s not because we are expecting them to be sexually active, it’s because it works better before they are exposed.

  • @[email protected]
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    3013 days ago

    IIRC, RFK’s stances on health issues were mostly based on a conspiracy theory that the institutions he now leads were deliberately burying studies and mass amounts of data. If that were true, he’d obviously be crowing about it at every opportunity.

    Instead, he found out that his conspiracy theories are bullshit, and that he’s now beholden to Trump and MAGA fascism. He’s going to accidentally say something against the narrative from time-to-time. I’m sure Trump or Elon or whoever is in charge will make him do something humiliating to atone for it.

    Don’t get me wrong, though. I’m not defending RFK, Jr. it’s extremely sad that the apple fell so very far from the tree.

    • @[email protected]
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      312 days ago

      Shut up.

      Your whole argument relies on:

      1. Him being able to read

      2. Him bothering to read

      3. Him understanding medical research

      4. Him believing it’s not all just part of the conspiracy

      The chances of all that happening are lower than the chances of winning all the numbers in powerball.

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        I mean he is a lawyer, who fought for the environment for decades. You dont become a successful lawyer by reading tweets, you need to actually read and put effort. He is not like most of trump’s cabinet, even though he is a conspiracy theorist and a flawed human(though with the upbringing he had, i cant imagine any human coming out as normal).

      • @[email protected]
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        212 days ago

        Yelling at his underlings and then getting a PowerPoint about it are probably closer to the real situation

    • @[email protected]
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      it’s extremely sad that the apple fell so very far from the tree.

      It really is, man… Had RFK not been killed, the US could have turned out so much differently. He was on his way to becoming president and would likely have been the most progressive since FDR.

  • @[email protected]
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    7513 days ago

    Hahahahahahaha have fun with that, Texas, and other antivax-friendly states. I’m out of sympathy. You shit your bed, now lie in it.

    • @[email protected]
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      7113 days ago

      The problem isn’t with the idiots who voted for it though. The problem is that the children, you know the innocent ones who can’t make decisions, are the ones who get to suffer. As are the people around the idiots who have weaker immune systems, and who may have not voted for the stupid or may just be too old and/or vulnerable. I love watching the actual idiots get their comeuppance, but I hate seeing innocent people suffer for their arrogant selfishness.

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        I know. I’m still out of sympathy. They’re gonna be indoctrinated by their parents and will continue being the proximate (and yes, I know that’s not the root) cause of the problem. Sometimes the symptoms need to be addressed before the underlying issues are.

        I’m on a medication that suppresses my immune system. I know precisely what the dangers are here.

        • Ænima
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          I disagree. I’m glad people like my brother’s friend kept trying to reach me when I was still roped into the lies my parents regurgitated from the Republicans and ultra wealthy. It takes effort to get through that wall and reach the person. For me, it was pointing out all the lies I was being a mouthpiece to and checked for myself. He wasn’t mad, or condescending, and through his patience I realized all the shit my parents believed were basically all bullshit.

          As for this comment, I get the sentiment behind it, but abandoning these youth as they parrot their parents’, just prove what the right says about the others like the Democrat party. I agree that a lot of their parents are long gone through propaganda and a buildup of lead in their brains, but we can get through to youth if we don’t write them off out of the gate.

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        Can I add to this.

        There’s a lot of people that aren’t able to get the vaccine who otherwise would be vaccinated.

        Immunocompromised, allergy to MMR, chemo, steroids and other meds. The list goes on. These people are now in danger of suffering from hearing loss, brain damage, going blind, lung damage, learning disabilities seizures…and death.

        All because Tinfoil Totin Tammy wants to be a Facebook Pharma Fighter but wound up putting the “no” in immunology” instead.

        • Lka1988
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          2112 days ago

          allergy to MMR

          That’s my wife. To say we’re worried would be an understatement.

          • Ænima
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            Same. Almost died from MMR vaccine as a child. I live in a blue state so I’m not terribly worried, but I may become a test case in avoiding death from this shit before too long. Hope they get it under control and you had your wife never have to experience measles.

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        Yeah, that’s literally how evolution works!

        The morons’ kids don’t live to reproduce, otherwise idiocracy reigns.

        In the past the dangerous morons sent their kids to die in war, and the people who stayed behind were the ones who were more peaceful, that’s how civilization happened.

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          In the past the dangerous morons sent their kids to die in war, and the people who stayed behind were the ones who were more peaceful

          Historically, the number of people who have been offered a choice about whether or not their children would participate in a war is vanishingly small compared to those who have not.

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          912 days ago

          That’s not how evolution works. You’re glossing over the whole “nature vs nurture” debate. Antivax stances are very much nurture based, and definitely not an inheritable characteristic. There may be a slight bias due to intelligence, but there is no shortage of stupid people who are just as willing to vaccinate their kids as smart people.

      • @[email protected]
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        212 days ago

        I’m gonna get so much mileage out of this gif. But I like it better with no text - it’s more flexible that way

  • Gumby
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    3012 days ago

    Oh, is he just going to pretend that he hasn’t been spearheading a crusade against vaccines for literal decades?

    • @[email protected]
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      912 days ago

      Yes. This is called lying. This is what these people have been doing for a while now. I don’t think this will change soon.

      • JaggedRobotPubes
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        I think he actually thinks the things he says, and is just plain nuts. I don’t get the impression rfk doesn’t care about people deep down like I do with most of them. I think he’s genuinely profoundly stupid.

        Cynicism is not really correct here. Maybe if you turn one half of one degree and see literally anything else going on right now, but not here.

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    He didn’t seem to care when he got dozens of kids killed by measles in American Samoa, but now that it’s white kids in the metropole he changes his tune…

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    18313 days ago

    Ah now that shit might get really serious really quick you’re changing your stance? Huh Bobby? I must say I’m a little surprise. You didnt do that the last time you did this.

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          I doubt that the threat of suing the government would make him change; after all, it won’t be paid out of his pocket. But if the families were being inundated by offers of attorneys to represent them in a civil suit against RFK Jr himself…

      • @[email protected]
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        1513 days ago

        It takes awhile to get used to enacting policy that rapidly and publicly kills children.

        • @[email protected]
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          712 days ago

          Tell me about it! The last time I couldn’t sleep for almost an entire night, I was so annoyed!

          • @[email protected]
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            912 days ago

            And that’s why i take Fuckitol. Two pills in the morning, followed by a gallon of bathtub gin, and you’ll sleep like a baby.

            Did climate change just causet the fourteenth tornado this week to eat your last pickup? Fuckitol. Little Jimmy, your last of a brood of 17 just got gunned down in his pre-k Starbucks job? Fuckitol. Slow creep of fascism destroying civilization? Fuckitol.

            Tell your doctor Fuckitol is right for you!

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    • @[email protected]
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      1512 days ago

      “I’m just a dumb guy, fast tracking fascism and antivax rhetoric to my millions of dumb guy listeners. You shouldn’t listen to me.”

  • Phoenixz
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    So now when shit really hits the fan you’re admitting that vaccines are good, but you of course won’t admit you were wrong and I guarantee you that once this is over, you’ll again continue with your anti vaccine crusade because of course you will

    • @[email protected]
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      1713 days ago

      This is an argument I have with friends, water is not wet, it makes things wet. It’s why firefighters add things like dish soap when they need “wet water.”

      • Rhaedas
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        You are correct. There is even such a thing as dry water. I was first going to put the sky is blue, but similar arguments can be made there.

        • @[email protected]
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          913 days ago

          We find joy where we can in these crazy times and finding this nothing burger of an argument brings me joy.

      • @[email protected]
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        The water on the other water makes the other water wet, and vice versa

        Coming at it from a colloquial definition and not a chemist’s definition, though. And I prefer the colloquial definition of “wet”.

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          Are fish in the sea wet? Or are things wet only when they have some water on them but not all of the water? So then do fish get wet the moment you take them out of the water?

  • nkat2112
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    1513 days ago

    The worm in gnawing on his brain must have given him a temporary reprieve. Or perhaps there’s a more reasonable explanation to Bear Roadkill-Devouring, Whale Guy suddenly changing stance.

    • @[email protected]
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      212 days ago

      Those released from nurgles love tend to hate what they become. Im sure grandpa nurgle will embrace him soon enough.