I like how there’s so many fees on this console that we haven’t even gotten to the $50 skype webcam accessory which they spent a solid third of their direct showing off.
I miss the DS era :/
EDIT:
I also want to point out this: https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2022/05/reggie-had-to-fight-for-wii-sports-as-a-pack-in-and-miyamoto-wasnt-happy
Fils-Aimé pushed for the bundle, and initially company President Satoru Iwata turned the proposal down: “Nintendo does not give away precious content for free.”
“Neither of you understands the challenges of creating software that people love to play. This is something we constantly push ourselves to do. We do not give away our software,” Mr. Miyamoto stated.
It’s ironic that with the success of Wii sports, Nintendo completely ignored the lesson.
Who’s going to buy that camera though? It’s only so you can talk to 3 other people, and none of the games that make use of it look any good.
All the important people at nintendo have been separated from reality by their own fame and success for so long that they’ve lost their common sense and rationality.
But despite it all, their absolute contempt for their costumers and supporters continues to get rewarded by masses of fanboys/fangirls who keep unloading dumptrucks of money on Nintendos doorstop out of some obsessive nostalgia, and thus keeps nintendo from ever actually learning an actual fucking lesson.
Or how the “Chat Button” is pay gated after the first year…
https://www.polygon.com/nintendo-switch-2/553458/switch-2-nintendo-confirms-c-button-price
For 10 bucks, it better have a button combination that unlocks Mario Paint 2.
I haven’t seen a damn thing in the marketing that justifies it being anything other than free. If it’s worth 10 bucks, you better show that shit off. The audacity to call it “welcome tour” with a $10 price tag is wild
Nothing says welcome to the new Nintendo console like learning to open that wallet.
I read a preview of it that said it wasn’t worth the money. Nintendo is getting greedy AF.
It should be free
May I introduce you to their last launch day tech demo… 1-2 Switch?
Yeah. You forgot about $60 launch day tech demo 1-2 Switch, didn’t you?
Okay?
The only reason they sold any was because the console released with like one game, which seems to be the same strategy this time around too.
I remember buying breath of the wild, and sniperclips on day 1.
Exactly, the only real first party game was BOTW (and that also released on the Wii u).
There were some smaller games, like 12 switch/snipperclips/fast rmx, but the switch on release (and most of its life) was struggling for games.
It has a shitload of indie games and on top of that a lot of shovel ware though.
Don’t care. Still no.
So it’s a $10 tutorial? Don’t care how expansive and cool it is, that’s just fucked. The project scope should’ve been adjusted to make sure it would be free.
Exactly! What sort of logic are they even trying to apply there? Basically saying “We put a lot of time into our tech demo, and it came out better than expected, so we’re going to charge for it!”
That’s just crazy.
The whole principle is that the intro experience is supposed to be free. It exists to get people pumped about the cool new thing they just bought and excited to play with it.
I guess Nintendo decided that - since you already bought the console - they don’t especially care if you are pumped or not. They already got your money.
$10 is the “go fuck yourself” price for things that would otherwise be free.
You’ve already spent $450 on the console, $90 on a game, and $50 for the full online subscription. What’s $10 more dollars for the welcome demo? Go fuck yourself, pay the plumber man.
Yeah, I expected them to ask the full $60 for it, which would be completely unreasonable, but at least I understand why they wouldn’t give it away then. But 10? They could easily eat that, they just don’t want to.
Either way, I can’t imagine anyone paying for a “game” that’s nothing more than an instruction booklet. If it were free, maybe someone would open it while Mario Kart is downloading.
You expect Nintendo to do MULTITASKING? ;)
“Because fuck you!” -Nintendo
-the children’s toy company
I feel like they’re trolling us at this point. There’s no way they’re this stupid.
How is this stupid? Call it greedy or anti-consumer, but in the end it will increase Nintendo’s profits so it’s far from stupid from the company’s perspective. People buy consoles no matter how bad they are treated. Maybe you should call consumers stupid instead?
The problem is that a company can only push their greed so far before they start losing people. Up until now, most of the Nintendo hate came from their anti-emulation crusade. Now, it seems like everyone and their brother is talking about just how absurd the entirety of this launch is.
On places like reddit, Lenny, etc where there is a vocal minority complaining about this. The vast majority of consumers don’t come on here nor do they keep themselves informed. They’ll grumble at the price a bit, then buy it anyway.
I’m not talking about Lemmy. I’m talking about literally every community I’ve looked. Aside from fanboys being fanboys, the reaction has been nothing but outrage.
No, disrespectful business practices don’t make the public stupid
Nintendo can and has pushed the greed too far for even Nintendo fans before. Wii U and 3DS at launch being fairly recent examples.
I think this money grab wouldn’t have gotten as much run in the media if it hadn’t been front and center in the Direct. Feels like a misstep, but then, so does €90 Mario Kart…
“We’re greedy shits,” Trinen said. “The holes in our souls are bottomless and we hate our customers."
This demo/manual and the driving basketball game should be included in the system.
Think back to the 3ds with head wars and AR games, no way I’m buying such games but having them makes the system a bit more valuable.
Damn, Nintendo is such a crap company… What the heck is wrong with them?
Greed.
They’re Sony ca. 2006, fresh off the success of the PS2.
Or Microsoft ca. 2013, fresh off the success of the Xbox 360.
At least Sony had some justification. A new and expensive cell architecture. It was ground breaking for its time but cost too much.
Nintendo is giving us something the steam deck and other pc handhelds can do, and trying to charge $80 for games that will almost never go on sale. I can buy old steam titles for less than $10, show me an old Nintendo title that can ever sell for that amount. It’s just not a good enough proposition just to have access to a handful of $80 Nintendo titles.
Yeah, I could stomach the price of the console, but no way am I ever going to pay those outrageous prices that never go down for first party games, and without those there’s no point in getting a Switch 2 over a Steam Deck. I’ll have a lot of Nintendo games to catch up on once decent Switch 2 emulators are a thing.
This is one of the dumber decisions Nintendo has made, and they put out the Wii U.
Nintendo is being exclusively run by suits now. The era of a game company built by gamers is over.
Nintendo was never ran by gamers.
You’re thinking iwata, but that was a brief blip on Nintendo history. The OG CEO was a straight up suit. The man had no interest in videogames, only business. Which is why they practically had a monopoly over their hardware in the 80s and 90s.
The OG CEO is from the 1800s so yeah. And yes I’m thinking of Iwata. And look at what was produced during his tenure. That’s the Nintendo everyone is nostalgic about nowadays. 1989 Nintendo was a corporation throwing spaghetti at the wall, 2000’s Nintendo was streamlining the end gamer experience, 2020’s Nintendo is looking for an easy paycheck.
It wasn’t even a bad system, just marketed terribly.
I would dispute the claim it wasn’t a bad system.
The gamepad as a mandatory component really gimped it hard.
I was on the fence about Switch 2, leaning toward not getting one. This just solidified that position. No way I’m paying for something that charges for the instruction manual.
Makes sense, but if it’s only $10 it should just be free. $10 isn’t worth the bad PR and they should want this tour thing in as many hands as possible.
