Summary

China condemned JD Vance on Tuesday for calling Chinese people “peasants” in a Fox News interview, where he said, “To make it a little more crystal clear, we borrow money from Chinese peasants to buy the things those Chinese peasants manufacture.”

The Chinese Foreign Ministry labeled the remarks “ignorant and disrespectful.”

The backlash exploded on Chinese social media, garnering 140 million Weibo views.

Critics mocked Vance’s own “hillbilly” background and pointed to China’s advanced tech and infrastructure, highlighting rising tensions amid Trump’s trade war.

  • @TTom0602@lemmy.world
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    303 months ago

    We can hardly judge China on its human rights abuses anymore. We are becoming the “shithole” country.

    • @nialv7@lemmy.world
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      153 months ago

      Yeah US had atrocious human rights track records, they just didn’t do it that much domestically.

      • @NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml
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        123 months ago

        Do the 1100 extrajudicial murders per year and the world’s largest prison population not count for anything?

    • @SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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      53 months ago

      I can, all human rights abuses are bad.

      Tyrannical governments don’t cancel each other out through the whataboutism property or whatever…

      • Communist
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        13 months ago

        They don’t of course, but the leading argument to not use china’s system was always because of human rights, when there is no human rights or economic advantage, etc, it becomes pointless to resist marxist leninism, except to advocate anarchism.

  • @M0oP0o@mander.xyz
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    243 months ago

    “China lashes out”

    Did they also “slam” home the fact that this is quite literally a world leader directly insulting the people of their closest rival? The bad news writing mixing with clown world politics is why all this seems so unreal to people, we are talking about a collapse of global world order but this reads like a TMZ piece.

  • Jeena
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    43 months ago

    So China, how does wolfwarrior diplomacy taste?

  • @Lembot_0001@lemm.ee
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    63 months ago

    Interesting if Vance is a chauvinist or just stupid enough to say aloud what most Americans really think about China…

    • Geetnerd
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      33 months ago

      He still doesn’t understand that no matter how smart he is, or how much ass he kisses, he’ll never be one of Them.

      Lee Atwater made the same mistake.

  • @Darkard@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    They are so laughably bad at this stong man act. They talk politics like either a particularly stupid playground bully or a guffawing British colonial moron from the time of the empire.

    Also, I suppose it would help if your opponents found you even the least bit intimidating

            • @seejur@lemmy.world
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              223 months ago

              Thank fuck i would say. It literally their fucking job isn’t it? I have to card in every morning at 9am till 5. Their equivalent of card in is to oppose this shit, and to be perfectly honest, if I put as much effort as they did so far, my manager would have fired my ass for being a slacker

            • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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              53 months ago

              Like they were elected to do. I sure hope they’re doing more than the people trying to balance rent and food as they worry about if their senator is going to vote yes on Trump’s wants.

                • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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                  73 months ago

                  Not voted Yes on anything Republicans want, for starters.

                  No cabinet picks. No poison pills. No sneaking in expansions of power in yearly budgets. No tax cuts for the rich.

                  It costs as much energy to vote no as it does yes. But it doesn’t look good for the lobbyists’ bank accounts when they pay for Trump’s demands, so why even bother fighting for what’s right?

            • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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              The right wing spin of “Please stop doing what Trump wants you to do”?

              Or the right wing spin of “Stand up for the people who voted you in to stop Trump”?

        • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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          63 months ago

          “Please stop capitulating to Trump and signing off of his bills, they’re fascists and you’re enabling them.”

          “Whats with the blame for Democrats? You must hate them for no reason.”

          • @Serinus@lemmy.world
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            23 months ago

            The budget bill? Things were going to be worse if there was a shutdown that hands more power to the executive.

            • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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              If they wanted a shutdown, Republicans would have voted no and shut it down.

              Instead they voted yes along with 11 Democrats.

        • @bassomitron@lemmy.world
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          203 months ago

          They’re not blameless. They’re not entirely to blame, but they could’ve regulated social media to dampen disinformation when they had the chance.

              • @RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com
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                13 months ago

                I was aware of the dangers and am now aware of the cited committee to establish regulations that somehow counter foreign and domestic disinformation without infringing on the First Amendment; I was moreso asking for your personal idea of a regulation that you would put in place if dictator for a day.

          • @peteyestee@feddit.org
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            You can’t tame the beast anymore. It’s in control and it’s bigger than governments. It’s more of poltergeist than something physical. Humanity is dying and the lifeboats that were government and religion have been overtaken.

            This is a whole new war beyond law and order.

            Natural law prevails, but many of us have been taught to not live by natural law. In turn we are losing the battle by being submissive to man-made law while the evil side of humanity thrives as it has never followed the law of man. They know the laws are for the poor and easily controlled and not meant for them.

            Or something?

            • Maeve
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              You can’t tame the beast anymore

              Yes we can. It requires effort, will and risk, though, and these are things Americans lack one of.

          • @AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml
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            43 months ago

            holy shit these fucking libs

            “They should have cracked down on how we’re allowed to communicate with each other”

            and not

            “They shouldn’t have committed a genocide” or “They shouldn’t have taken tens of millions of people off medicaid and doubled child poverty”

          • Sculptus Poe
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            63 months ago

            The answer is never censorship. Look at who would be in charge of your ‘regulated’ social media now… It would be all of it instead of just the now hyper-regulated X.

            • @bassomitron@lemmy.world
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              I didn’t say censorship. They could’ve regulated social media as actual Media outlets, which puts them on the hook for libel lawsuits if blatantly fake disinformation is advertised on their platforms. In other words, they have to follow the same rules as traditional media outlets.

    • @peteyestee@feddit.org
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      213 months ago

      I feel like it’s due to American privilege. They don’t understand the real world and authentic humanity.

  • @will_a113@lemmy.ml
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    123 months ago

    I’d say it’s ironic since vance literally became famous by celebrating American peasants, but for him it’s probably less about them being peasants and more about them being Chinese.

  • @vegeta@lemmy.world
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    1013 months ago

    There goes the already remotely slim chance of any tariff negotiations. There is now a negative chance of China giving in.

    • @miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      633 months ago

      China wins this war in a landslide.
      USA needs China: walk into any American home, and it’ll be minimum 50% China-related goods.
      The reverse situation, American goods in Chinese homes, would have a tough time approaching 10%.

      • @cygnus@lemmy.ca
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        You know that isn’t good for China either, right? It’s the same twisted trade deficit logic that Trump is using. China’s economy depends on selling those goods.

          • @bassomitron@lemmy.world
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            53 months ago

            Certainly, but we’re the biggest consumer economy by a long shot. Trying to replace roughly $600 billion in exports isn’t an easy ask, especially since the next biggest economic bloc after the US and China, the EU, has been trying to move away from over reliance on China for years.

            • @cygnus@lemmy.ca
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              Not to mention many of those Chinese products are designed by and built for American companies or nonamerican companies that sell in the US, which complicates things even further. This is much more complicated and much messier than simply looking at how many US goods there are in a typical Chinese household. Everybody loses thanks to Trump’s idiocy.

            • @Skyrmir@lemmy.world
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              153 months ago

              They may be trying to move away from China, but they’re going to be moving back fast with these tariffs in place. Everyone loses in a trade war, but China is very much going to be the winner. No matter what happens after today, the US has lost it’s bargaining position and value as a trading partner and ally.

              Putin has won his war against the US, it’s just a matter of how we fall at this point.

              • @bassomitron@lemmy.world
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                I don’t disagree, I’m just pointing out that no one wants this and China isn’t going to just magically replace their biggest trading partner overnight, which is why they were legitimately trying to work out a new deal originally.

                Trust me, I fully agree the US will be the biggest loser from all of this.

        • @tibi@lemmy.world
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          The US is just one country out of ~190 with a population of 300m out of 7b. Losing some exports to the US will sting a bit, but in the grand scheme it’s nothing.

          The US needs to get its head out of its ass and realize its not as important as it thinks.

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          While trade war isn’t good for anyone US is clear looser here since China’s export to US (as of 2023 stats) is only 15% from its overall export. They can sell more other countries to smoothen impact. Meanwhile who gonna buy US stuff? “Best friend“ Russia with total GPD of less than California?

          • @bassomitron@lemmy.world
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            103 months ago

            “only 15%”? That’s a huge percentage when you look at global trade. In 2023, their next biggest export partner is Hong Kong at 8%, which is now part of China. After that it’s Japan at 5%, followed by South Korea at 4.5%.

            https://tradingeconomics.com/china/exports-by-country

            The point is, China doesn’t want this trade war at all, and neither do we. Trump and Co. are complete morons that are fucking up the global economy for nonsensical reasons. Yes, other countries can eventually establish new trade deals without the US, and they likely will, but let’s not pretend they all can just bounce back within a few months if these idiotic shenanigans continue.

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              I wanted EU but the closest breakdown was Europe at 22%. Russia is 3.4% and assuming that’s included in Europe puts it closer to 18.6%.

            • @Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              That use of “only” before “15%” is a serious underestimation in absolute terms, but wholly appropriate when those 15% are relative to the US’s self-inflicted trade damage: it’s still immensely better when 15% of your trade goes to a trading partner which has picked a fight with you than when 100% of your trade goes to trade partners you have picked fights with.

              Further, in the last 2 decades or so China has both been growing its internal market (so that its Economy is less dependent on exports) and diversifying the countries they export to, likely in preparation for the death throes of empire as the US falls from its top position, which were entirely expected for decades, as was that they would include some form of trade pressure on its closest adversary.

              Absolutely, this is going to hurt China in the short-term (and possibly mid-term, depending on how easy or not is to redirect those exports to other destinations), but the Trump trade war with the World is going to totally fuck up the US and it’s the kind of harm that gets worse the longer these measures remain in place because it will be further eating away at the US brand (so even after the tariffs are removed many customers won’t be coming back) and accelerate the demise of the Reserve Currency status of the USD (which will in turn be reflected in massive inflation as those dollars flood back in and way bigger deficit related problems because the costs of debt servicing will go up when there is little demand for US Dollars abroad).

    • @tischbier@feddit.org
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      113 months ago

      🇱🇷 💥 🇱🇷 💣 💥 👍 STUPID POWER YEAH 👍 🇱🇷 💥 🇱🇷 💣 💥

      COPE CHYNAH

      these stupid mother fuckers

    • thedruid
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      433 months ago

      In over 50 years, I have never seen a worst accounting of ourselves.

      Our leaders, elected officials, are absolutely corrupt, inept, and eaten up with greed . They are diseased in their souls.

      They need to be jailed , now.

      • @AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com
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        23 months ago

        In over 50 years, I have never seen a worst accounting of ourselves

        You should have taken the hints with the Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq invasions, but better late than never I guess.

      • @Serinus@lemmy.world
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        It’s an excellent accounting by the person running the country. It’s going better than planned.

    • @adrian@50501.chat
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      63 months ago

      I think this is the plan. They want to be able to blame China for the massively increased cost of consumer goods.

    • @Kirp123@lemmy.world
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      Yep. China is not gonna lose face by negotiating. They’re gonna go all in to fuck the US over now.

  • @NABDad@lemmy.world
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    1583 months ago

    Poor man’s idea of a rich man,

    Stupid man’s idea of a smart man,

    Weak man’s idea of a strong man,

    Coward’s idea of a brave man,

    And a moronic voter’s idea of a President (or Vice-president in this case).

    • @Ledericas@lemm.ee
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      13 months ago

      hillbilly

      his elergy, states how he was gay in childhood, but his grandma told him not to say such a thing.