Summary
China condemned JD Vance on Tuesday for calling Chinese people “peasants” in a Fox News interview, where he said, “To make it a little more crystal clear, we borrow money from Chinese peasants to buy the things those Chinese peasants manufacture.”
The Chinese Foreign Ministry labeled the remarks “ignorant and disrespectful.”
The backlash exploded on Chinese social media, garnering 140 million Weibo views.
Critics mocked Vance’s own “hillbilly” background and pointed to China’s advanced tech and infrastructure, highlighting rising tensions amid Trump’s trade war.
They are so laughably bad at this stong man act. They talk politics like either a particularly stupid playground bully or a guffawing British colonial moron from the time of the empire.
Also, I suppose it would help if your opponents found you even the least bit intimidating
They’re WWE grads
Linda MacMahon is literally the Secretary of Education.
they don’t even have good entrance music
They tried but the artists keep suing to make them stop using it.
Yet they can’t cut a promo!
I feel like it’s due to American privilege. They don’t understand the real world and authentic humanity.
Only Democrats seem to find their act intimidating.
Here it is again, a desperate attempt to blame Democrats.
They’re not blameless. They’re not entirely to blame, but they could’ve regulated social media to dampen disinformation when they had the chance.
And now that would be the reason they didn’t get elected.
You can’t tame the beast anymore. It’s in control and it’s bigger than governments. It’s more of poltergeist than something physical. Humanity is dying and the lifeboats that were government and religion have been overtaken.
This is a whole new war beyond law and order.
Natural law prevails, but many of us have been taught to not live by natural law. In turn we are losing the battle by being submissive to man-made law while the evil side of humanity thrives as it has never followed the law of man. They know the laws are for the poor and easily controlled and not meant for them.
Or something?
You can’t tame the beast anymore
Yes we can. It requires effort, will and risk, though, and these are things Americans lack one of.
holy shit these fucking libs
“They should have cracked down on how we’re allowed to communicate with each other”
and not
“They shouldn’t have committed a genocide” or “They shouldn’t have taken tens of millions of people off medicaid and doubled child poverty”
Example?
You could look into it yourself, but here’s a general overview on the US response to disinformation:
https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/disinformation-governance-board/
The Democrats could’ve been pushing harder to address such a serious problem, but they didn’t. And here we are.
Like I said, they’re not entirely to blame, but they’re not blameless.
I was aware of the dangers and am now aware of the cited committee to establish regulations that somehow counter foreign and domestic disinformation without infringing on the First Amendment; I was moreso asking for your personal idea of a regulation that you would put in place if dictator for a day.
The answer is never censorship. Look at who would be in charge of your ‘regulated’ social media now… It would be all of it instead of just the now hyper-regulated X.
I didn’t say censorship. They could’ve regulated social media as actual Media outlets, which puts them on the hook for libel lawsuits if blatantly fake disinformation is advertised on their platforms. In other words, they have to follow the same rules as traditional media outlets.
Social media isn’t a news source. Perhaps forcing them to remove all the ‘algorithms’ might be the answer. Keep the echo chamber effect to a minimum. Excluding people from being able to speak based on the current administration’s definition of blatantly fake disinformation is a bad idea. Once again, look who is now in charge of what is ‘blatantly fake’… They’d be suing the crap out of Lemmy under that law… Europe is all in on censorship, so we can only hope the Nazis don’t take over there again or we’ll be boxed in from every direction.
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Substantially more than most of the people on this site have been doing.
Thank fuck i would say. It literally their fucking job isn’t it? I have to card in every morning at 9am till 5. Their equivalent of card in is to oppose this shit, and to be perfectly honest, if I put as much effort as they did so far, my manager would have fired my ass for being a slacker
Can you be any more specific?
Like they were elected to do. I sure hope they’re doing more than the people trying to balance rent and food as they worry about if their senator is going to vote yes on Trump’s wants.
Yeah. Fucking Schumer is really leading the opposition. /s
And what specifically have you done?
I haven’t voted to confirm Trump’s nominees
Not voted Yes on anything Republicans want, for starters.
No cabinet picks. No poison pills. No sneaking in expansions of power in yearly budgets. No tax cuts for the rich.
It costs as much energy to vote no as it does yes. But it doesn’t look good for the lobbyists’ bank accounts when they pay for Trump’s demands, so why even bother fighting for what’s right?
What the fuck have you done other than echo the right wing spin?
The right wing spin of “Please stop doing what Trump wants you to do”?
Or the right wing spin of “Stand up for the people who voted you in to stop Trump”?
“Please stop capitulating to Trump and signing off of his bills, they’re fascists and you’re enabling them.”
“Whats with the blame for Democrats? You must hate them for no reason.”
The budget bill? Things were going to be worse if there was a shutdown that hands more power to the executive.
If they wanted a shutdown, Republicans would have voted no and shut it down.
Instead they voted yes along with 11 Democrats.
Poor man’s idea of a rich man,
Stupid man’s idea of a smart man,
Weak man’s idea of a strong man,
Coward’s idea of a brave man,
And a moronic voter’s idea of a President (or Vice-president in this case).
Does anyone believe he does not see American citizens as peasants, too?
Not just American citizens. The people he grew up with. His own community. He even wrote a book to exploit it. The guy is all sleaze.
by recent voting history would that not be somewhat accurate?
Explain what you think a peasant is .ml user.
well, .zip user… in this context I would go with one living under neo-feudal oppression. but please, do elucidate if you care to.
I was going with someone tied to the land, unable to move or better their situation.
Which would make sense in the context of Appalachia but doesn’t really make sense in the context of American citizens at large.
I got ya. you may be surprised to learn that, in the us, declining geographic mobility is very much a part of the new feudalism.
by all metrics I can think of, the us is becoming more and more a feudal estate with lords and peasants.
And tries to separate himself from his peasant heritage?
after THIEL plucked him from obscurity and gave him a job.
“China lashes out”
Did they also “slam” home the fact that this is quite literally a world leader directly insulting the people of their closest rival? The bad news writing mixing with clown world politics is why all this seems so unreal to people, we are talking about a collapse of global world order but this reads like a TMZ piece.
“Hey, China, call Vance “White Trash.” He really likes that.”
he basically did it himself about his own town in his shitty book.
Coming from the hick from Appalachia.
The stereotype at that. A dumb hick from Appalachia. Which isn’t really fare to the people from there anymore. I’ve met serveral people from there who were fair minded and of reasonable intelligence. Just not that waste of breath.
These days they can update it with “don’t waste your eggs, there are kids in America whose family can’t even afford them”
…I hate laughing at the downfall of my own country, but we definitely had it coming. I guess Chinese is the new lingua franca. Anyway, can someone help me understand why “Ma” in Mandarin means both weed and mom? How do I buy weed in Beijing?
Mandarin has 4 (technically 5) tones so “ma” could be any one of those 4 different pronunciations. Furthermore, there are many completely different words that have the same tone/pronunciation. You just learn through context (same way as you do with English homophones)
Mom in mandarin is 媽 (mā) whereas weed is 麻 (má). Colloquially you can also say 大麻 (dàmá) for weed.
How legal is weed in China? I get the impression the regime is anti drugs
Just spit balling here but probably execution level legal.
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take this as you will, it is copy pasted from a site. most other sources i saw up to reading this said the same shit, so it is probably fairly accurate
The Punishment for Marijuana in China
Possession & Use: Individuals caught with marijuana or using marijuana will face administrative detention between 10 to 15 days, as well as fines of up to 2,000 yuan ($280 USD). Trafficking and Distribution: Selling or distributing marijuana is a crime. Punishment for those found guilty of handling over 50 grams includes a minimum three-year prison sentence, with life incarceration or death being possible penalties for larger weights (or in special cases). Marijuana Cultivation: Growing cannabis is another criminal offense, no matter how many plants. People arrested for growing marijuana could spend five years in jail and pay a hefty fine. For larger amounts, the punishment is even steeper.Thanks!
Possession is much lighter than I was expecting.
There is probably a lot of pressure to give up the supplier.
yeah, i have no idea, on the granular level like that i would image it is quite a complicated thing, as it is anywhere
you also use ma at the end of the sentences to form a question, to make it more confusing
Also, even before you go into the nitty gritty, there are homonyms in English too, so I don’t get why OP needs an explanation.
U can ask Mom for weed by saying ma ma
Make it a question with a third ma.
So “ma ma ma?” (妈麻吗?)
You can’t. At least not legally.
Yeah, that’s sounds like the kind of thing a wormy, little sleazy fuck like Vance would say .
He still doesn’t understand that no matter how smart he is, or how much ass he kisses, he’ll never be one of Them.
Lee Atwater made the same mistake.
That’s fresh, coming from a guy that thinks getting a couch pregnant is the only way to repopulate IKEA’s inventory.
Thanks JD
Aw the little sheeply snowflake got affected. I assume that you complained in the same manner when your daddy talked about Hilary’s email, Dark Brandon, Sleepy Joe, Kamala Socialist, “I Did This” stickers and so on? JD, looks like you haven’t reached post-nut clarity after beating your Trump meat to a dead horse. Quite weird you did this if you ask me.
One of the most frustrating things about the current US administration, is I keep having to side with China. wtf is going on when we can no longer even get together to hate on an external trading partner? When the enemies are not at the gate but in the keep? When I have to agree with actions to punish my own country as well earned and expected?
The enemy was never China. The current US administration is worse than the previous one, but it was never China imprisoning black people en-masse, keeping your healthcare unaffordable and your life expectancy below that of Cuba, keeping your tuition prices out of reach for the majority, not guaranteeing a retirement pension, and having the largest incarceration rate on Earth. It just took orange man for you to realize. Hopefully you won’t turn back to anti-chinese sentiment and pro-US-imperialism when the cheeto is gone.
Hopefully you won’t turn back to anti-chinese sentiment and pro-US-imperialism when the cheeto is gone.
The guy literally said that the most frustrating thing is that he can’t be anti-chinese anymore.
Ehhhhhhh…
I don’t disagree that the “western hemisphere” is a corrupt, increasingly fascist, capitalist hellhole…
China aren’t known for their stellar human rights record either. Uyghurs, Tibetans, anyone that jokes about Winnie the Pooh’s lookalike, etc.
Let’s not pretend either side is righteous here, every single one of us is getting fucked, it’s just a matter of degree and direction.
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Uyghurs, Tibetans, anyone that jokes about Winnie the Pooh’s lookalike, etc.
If you think the
nazisAmericans are bad, wait until you hear what they have to say about thesovietschinese!
Maybe the enemies aren’t the ones we’ve been made to believe. Our homegrown capitalists export jobs to the “peasants” then they turn around and say to the jobless - look, the peasants took your job!
The enemies have never been the Chinese proletariat who toil and slave for scraps to feed the demands of a capitalist, consumerist society and always the greedy, totalitarian faux-socialists with a love for concentration camps that form the ruling party.
totalitarian faux-socialists with a love for concentration camps that form the ruling party
Could you please tell me what’s the incarceration rate in China and compare it with the US?
First: No I cannot, the people of China do not enjoy freedom of press or freedom of expression, so finding out the actual statistics can be very difficult.
Second: What is your point? Two governments can be bad simultaneously, and even more than just two. Just because I oppose Israel’s genocide doesn’t mean I suddenly support Iran’s totalitarian leadership.
That’s not how it works around here. No shades of gray I’m afraid, simple black and white only. (/s)
If it’s one thing I’ve learned in my years it’s the the truth is always somewhere in the middle. Just look at global warming.
finding out the actual statistics can be very difficult
Nah, you’re just a racist US-propagandized individual who refuses to believe statistics from “le evil country” because they don’t suit your ideology. Trials in China are as public as in the rest of the world, and incarceration rates are easy to calculate, and they match the government data because China doesn’t need to lie about it becaude it’s not a police state in the way USians believe it to be. I can attest to that as someone who visited China freely and without visa, and who has had the pleasure of having several Chinese coworkers.
Second: What is your point?
My point is that China’s incarceration rate is 5 times lower that of the USA, which makes it kinda obvious that there’s no “tyrant police state jailing everyone who disagrees”.
You’re either an apologist for totalitarian dictatorships who falls for propaganda as easily as MAGA cultists or you’re just straight-up trolling. The racism accusation was really the cherry on top.
I have never even visited the US, nor do I have any intention to.
You don’t need to live in the US to fall to US State Department propaganda, I’m west-European myself and I’m surrounded by people with the same brainworms as you do. But if you insist I’ll give you two sources that give similar numbers (i.e. 5 times smaller imprisonment rate than in the USA): source 1(London-based institute) source 2(UN data). Are those also totalitarian sources for this faulty information that we can’t believe because the evil politicians from the evil country are plotting to destroy the west?
I’ve been looking for Chinese prison-crime-etc. data. Do you have a link?
It being in Mandarin isn’t a problem.
The United Nations Crime Trends Survey data seems to match pretty well with the data from World Prison Brief regarding prison population. Hopefully nobody will accuse the UN or a London-based organization of skewing the data in favour of China.
Same as it ever was, governments sucking ass while the people are just… People… Even EU governments suck ass, just maybe ever so slightly less in recent history and even that I’m not sure of (not counting the current slide to the far right obviously).
I do feel like every 4 years… there’s a new enemy in the world. Kim > Putin > Bibi =/= Donald > who’s next?
Maybe the real enemeies were the friends we made along the way? Wait… no probably not.
As someone who is trying to live in a democracy it’s still insane to accept a dictatorship IMO
The kings and dictators are gonna be a fundamental wedge between east/west for a long time.
Anyone else becoming consciously aware of things they just can’t say because China is now going to be the next superpower?
…at least their list of banned statements are coherent and predictable…I guess. With the Trump admin, you could say “I like Gouda cheese” and a few years later find yourself in El Salvador because Trump, or some other moron, got upset that The Netherlands wouldn’t willingly be annexed.
That’s what I’m talking about the oppressive dictatorship with poor human rights is the voice of reason, if sanity, the “good one”? How did that happen?
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This was also not on my bingo card as well. It’s a damn weird timeline we’re living in.
Vance is a piss baby peasant
Big talk from hillbilly white trash.
I read this in Kahn from King of the Hills voice.
"Hey, Minh! Mascra wearing Hillbilly is fondling his couch! You owe me a dollar! "
Vance – that’s the hillbilly guy, yeah?
hillbilly
his elergy, states how he was gay in childhood, but his grandma told him not to say such a thing.
I’d say it’s ironic since vance literally became famous by celebrating American peasants, but for him it’s probably less about them being peasants and more about them being Chinese.
