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Remember in 2015 people were ridiculed for comparing him with “he’s literally hitler”
My ambien just kicked in but me thinks he was trying to imply that the hama a refugees were treated horrible. And with no kindness like nazis did. So your captors are even worse than the naxis !
I think that is maybe the goal in that pudding brain.
His comments are still idiotic but what he’s saying is that in Germany some people where helping Jews, not that nazis treated them with “love” (at least in the fragment I’ve seen).
If the ‘Hamas’ word was ‘Palestinians’, maybe. Now it is clear he is talking about the Nazi officers and soldiers.
Dude, nothing Trump says is ever clear.
“Did the, Hamas, show any signs of like, help? Or liking you? Did they wink? Did they give you a piece of bread extra? Did they give you a meal on the side? … Like, you know, what happened in Germany?” Trump said, absurdly comparing the hostages’ situation to the Holocaust, which murdered six million Jews.
Looks like a direct Nazi prison guard comparison to me
I mean… who knows what rattles in his empty skull. For me he’s just rambling. It could be about Nazi guards or about Germans in general. He’s basically trying to say “Hamas is just hate while in Germany there was also some basic human kindness”. It’s obviously bullshit but translating it to “nazis treated Jews with love” is taking it too far.
The Lemmy hivemind cares not for nuance.
Oh, yes, the nuance of noted deep thinker Donald Trump.
How about the nuance of not letting this place turn into a reddit-like echo chamber and hub of disinformation spurred by clickbait headlines?
“I want this place that is designed exactly like reddit to be nothing like reddit.”
Let me know how that works out for you.
Well then why are you even here if Reddit already exists?
That’s why I have downvotes disabled :)
“People would try and help people that were in unbelievable distress,” the president went on, suggesting that the Nazis were known for their generosity.
Sounds like he’s talking about Germans in general to me, while the article immediately says that he must mean Nazis.
There’s a lot of dumb shit Trump says. I don’t think this is one of those things (his comparison between the holocaust and the hostages is still weird, but that’s typical “par for the course”).
Yep, exactly that. Really no need to make up stupid shit he says. There’s enough of real stupid shit he actually says.
he’s specifically asking about the treatment from Hamas and his examples don’t make sense in the context of just Germans… winking? giving an extra piece of bread?
His language is always tough to interpret but I’ve read the full quote several times now and I don’t see how it makes sense unless he’s comparing the hostage treatment from Hamas to the Nazis’ treatment of the Jewish people.
I don’t think he’s saying that the Nazis loved the Jewish people but I also don’t think that’s what the headline says either.
I think his odd choice of word is a result of both his limited vocabulary and his narcissism. He has no idea what feeling or expressing love for another person is.
We need to stop paying that much attention to every exabrupte that goes out of his mouth…
exabrupte
Wow, a new word! Thank you, fellow lemming, for enriching my day.
(As a well-read old fart, it’s honestly exciting to come across a completely unfamiliar word.)
We should’ve stop doing it before he got into the office. Now his ramblings are interpreted by his followers as laws, so you have to pay the most attention possible to it. For your own safety, and for the safety of others.
Like this, he means?
You can see how open they are to this by how they dress. Very free. Lying down to show how comfortable they are in the situation.
One big hug
They were basically asking for it… Like you can’t walk around dressed that way and acting that way and not expect someone to react the way you clearly wanted them to.
My dad used to beat the shit out of my mom and convince her it was her fault. Once she was gone he turned to me. By then I was almost grown and I beat the absolute fuck out of him. When he laid there asking why I did that I simply explained, “given the way you were acting I thought that’s what you wanted? Why would you make me do this if you didn’t want it?”
Fucking hate people like that dude.
It’s really annoying when people aren’t clear about what they want
They covered the victims’ faces so the cowards maybe won’t have to live with what they’ve done.
Y’know, “love” and “generosity.”
Bet commenting this would get you a ban on reddit these days.
The Orange Turd does not know what love is.
What happens when you give a kid everything they ever wanted, except love? They grow into well financed monsters.
remember this next time he says he loves something he overtly harms. also think about this next time he says he loves someone we don’t know how he treats outside of the public eye like his children or his wife
I don’t know about his former wives, but his current one is a POS. Don’t forget the “I don’t care, do you?” coat when she was visiting caged children at the border. Her being an ex hooker is the most likable thing about her.
There’s a lot he doesn’t know that even the most average Utah public school third grader knows.
What is love? Baby don’t gas me, don’t gas me, no more…
Trump is a violent rapist so it “makes sense”
Full quote though it’s not really any better:
“I said to them, was there any sign of love?” Trump said, recounting his conversation with released hostages.
“Did the, Hamas, show any signs of like, help? Or liking you? Did they wink? Did they give you a piece of bread extra? Did they give you a meal on the side? … Like, you know, what happened in Germany?” Trump said, absurdly comparing the hostages’ situation to the Holocaust, which murdered six million Jews.
“People would try and help people that were in unbelievable distress,” the president went on, suggesting that the Nazis were known for their generosity.
“No, they didn’t do that, they’d slap us,” Trump said the hostages told him about Hamas, while sitting next to the man who is currently leading Israel’s genocide in Gaza. “Their hatred is unbelievable.”
I always knew about the gaschambers, but never really thought about how it was done, until I saw this video recently
It made me realize just how fucked up these people where.
The first time I got chills from an animated YouTube video. Crazy to think that people who are OK with this still exist and walk among us.
Visit a concentration camp someday if you get the opportunity
I visited auschwitz when I was 15 on a achool trip, the entire place felt very dark. But I was too young (and stupid) to really understand the horrors that happened at that place.
And to think people still defend this muppet
So, confirmed Nazi - again. How long will it be before someone stops him?
Yeeeeaaaah…about that…
I’m afraid I’ve got some bad news.
Given he’s destroying his own country while the rest of us laugh at him, I expect the civil war will kick off eventually.
That’s his plan though, much easier to reshape a democracy into an Empire during huge societal upheaval like that.
Just gotta keep giving himself more Emergency Powers until he can get it done.
Dude, we have to have hope. Everyone, keep up the embargoes of every billionaire company that supports him. Money is the only thing that will work.
Seeing as we are on .world and the last comment I made featuring the Bear Jew with a Louisville slugger as an example of how to properly treat a fascist got deleted by a mod…
Maybe I can get away with saying ‘Be the change you want to see in the world’.
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I fucking hate Trump, but the headline doesn’t match the content:
“I said to them, was there any sign of love?” Trump said, recounting his conversation with released hostages.
“Did the, Hamas, show any signs of like, help? Or liking you? Did they wink? Did they give you a piece of bread extra? Did they give you a meal on the side? … Like, you know, what happened in Germany?” Trump said, absurdly comparing the hostages’ situation to the Holocaust, which murdered six million Jews.
“People would try and help people that were in unbelievable distress,” the president went on, suggesting that the Nazis were known for their generosity.
“No, they didn’t do that, they’d slap us,” Trump said the hostages told him about Hamas, while sitting next to the man who is currently leading Israel’s genocide in Gaza. “Their hatred is unbelievable.”
Sounds more like a “was the pope catholic?” situation. After all, there’d be a lot more press on it if it wasn’t sarcastic questioning.
No, you’re misreading this.
Trump is comparing Hamas guards holding hostages to Nazi guards holding prisoners, and he is suggesting that Nazis prison guards acted with love and kindness when a prisoner was in a very dire state.
The he switches to ‘no, the Hamas guards slapped their hostages’… implying they were worse than Nazi death/slave camp guards.
Again, why in the world are you giving him the benefit of the doubt? He is sending people to concentration camps (2 of them) that are probably being killed and/or tortured. One of them was by mistake and they’re not bringing him back. Stop it.
“Did the, Hamas, show any signs of like, help? Or liking you? Did they wink? Did they give you a piece of bread extra? Did they give you a meal on the side? … Like, you know, what happened in Germany?”
So I kinda felt like Kanye was trying to wreck his image and get out of the game/spotlight
I similarly think trump is saying this to continue to crash the economy. Elons little autism flare up (Sig Heil salute) was the start of this epic tumble. I feel like he’s just kicking the can at this point.
George Bush doesn’t care about black people.
Trump doesn’t care about Jews.
so thats what nazis called the gas eh. can we get trump some of that love?
love gas.
Only time I will ever say this but, I hope Trump gets the love he deserves. I only wish endless love for Trump.
So much love. The most love. Bigly love even. He’s going to have so much love, he won’t know where to put it all. He’ll have so much love, it’ll be hard to breathe. Suffocated by all that tariff free American love.
Heh. We want mercy for ourselves and “justice” for our neighbors. That’s what’s wrong with the world.
??? We want mercy for our sorry lives full of procrastination and justice for the mas murderers.
ha, theres no mercy in the u.s. the richest country in the world cant afford to solve for homelessness, hunger, education or racism
in the untied states justice means ‘revenge’.
It starts with individual attitude shifts, you know? If I was reared this way, and continued for another 3 decades and can make the shift, pretty much anyone can. The idea is not to shift back. While society and media seek to make it extremely difficult, it’s still very, very possible. Mandela had the right idea in not seeking revenge.
I wish I could agree with you. But mercy and lack of revenge the first time around is what brought us here today. Post civil war Reconstruction was far, far too kind to the people who thought they were entitled to owning the lives of other human beings.
Pollution doesn’t stay where we send it, literal or figurative. Weakness seeks to control others. Strength is calming our own inner beasts. Good luck friend.
and the Ukrainians who liberated us from the death camps were the real assholes. probably
Soviet forces?
So yes. But also it’s a little more nuanced than that. Out of necessity the red army was divided into units of language groups because it wasn’t wholly homogenized in 1944/45. The units in the northern portion of the eastern front were primarily Russian, and the units in the southern portion of the eastern front were primarily Ukrainian. The treatment of the Jews released from the death camps by Russian and Ukrainian units were different. Being released by a Russian group was a short path to other forms of political imprisonment because a major aspect of the Soviet project was the elimination of religion, where as the Ukrainian units fought tooth and nail to liberate us, largely because Jewish-Poles and Ukrainians are deeply interconnected people beyond the newly established Soviet state. It would be like if Buffalo, NY and Toronto, ON were both under threat of invasion by Michigan, and Michigan was planning to kill every man, woman, and child in Toronto with curly hair. Buffalo and Toronto might not always get along, but when push comes to shove, they share history and culture through food and music. Meanwhile, Manhattan might have some things in common and will work toward a common goal, but it’s not as important an investment for them
Aha! Thank you for clarifying. I get why Russia would like to do away with religion by and large, even if I no longer agree with those reasons. The methodology was always troublesome to me but Jesus, not even re-education (yes, that was poorly done too, unsure how much was deliberate and how much was lack of resources) and
straight to execution? I need to read more from a variety of sources.Edit: apologies, I misremembered your original wording. I’ve read too much of political madness, recently.
I get why Russia would like to do away with religion by and large, even if I no longer agree with those reasons
That was something the Communists tried to do. Putin has promoted the regressive, misogynistic, right-wing authoritarian Russian Orthodox Church.
He’s promoting it because he controls it.
It has become my view that religion is one of the many cultural avenues toward parallel systems of power that our oppressors both fear and mimic. As we’re here on the brink of a new dark age, or possibly have already entered it, I find myself realizing how many religious stories are people from the past just trying to pass down what happened in their time through means that power that be won’t understand. I think about the list of names in the book of Genesis, and I realize these were relatives to someone that that someone simply didn’t want erased from history, so they started speaking their names to future generations. I think about the garden of Eden and how Adam and Eve were forced to live a life of discomfort after they gained the knowledge of how everything works, and I think about how our oppressors strip funding for scientific research because we’re easier to kill if we don’t have abundant food and vaccines. I think about the book of Job and how god tortures a guy just to do it, and I think about how petty our presidents are. I think about the teachings of Jesus and how he encouraged his followers to ignore orthodoxy and focus on helping people, which got him killed much like how many of our allies are being disappeared right now, and how the Roman censors at the time kept certain tales from entering or surviving within the zeitgeist. I think, too, about how when Revelations was written, the author’s people was subject to a genocide, and once more the Roman censors would have been curating what narratives were allowed to survive. I think about the patterns I see now and through history, how wars lead to pandemics, pandemics lead to authoritarianism, authoritarianism leads to famine, and then all of that leads back to war again. I realize that John the Reveler was probably just writing out what he was seeing at the time. Other accounts from the era probably existed but were destroyed, so the one we inherited is… Fuckin’ bonkers because that’s what it took to slip past the Romans.
Unfortunately, as with all parallel systems of power, our oppressors can and will seek to infiltrate and subvert them. Throughout history two of the most dangerous people have been the pastor and the politician. They trick us into thinking certain ways are just the way things have to be, that their interpretation of what we’ve inherited is Right and Correct, even if their interpretation is actually some nonsense and we’re actually the ones who inherited the true meaning. I think the only way to combat this subversion of our truths is to reject, or at least question, orthodoxies at every turn. Refuse to fall in line to a single way of doing things, no matter what it is you’re engaging with. I think about the years when r/Atheism was a starter subscription on Reddit, and how devout those atheists were. In particular they treated Richard Dawkins like a minor religious figure. I always found it so strange that their response to religious trauma was to repackage all the worst things about religion and attach it to anti-religion. They were just as intolerant of other views, outlooks, and people as religious people. I think that’s what the Soviet project of atheism was reflective of. Lenin and Stalin either failed to understand, or worse understood completely, the REAL problem with organized religion and implemented Bolshevism as a form of religion.
Also, for the record, I’ve found !atheistmemes@lemmy.world far less horrifically awful than reddit’s r/Atheism ever was. So good job, us
Someone ping me when the ADL condemns Trump for this.
Why would they care about dead Jews from 80 years ago when trump is giving them the green light on killing Palestinians now?
When he’s done with the Palestinians, his love for the Jewish people and Israel will evaporate.
Probably not as long as Israel remains firmly fascist. Trump and most of the GOP are sociopaths/psychopaths. I doubt most of them actually believe the white supremacism and racism they peddle. It’s a means of class warfare to divide and conquer — to attain and maintain power. Though, as we all know, the out groups are fluid and can change at the whim of madmen.
At this point I’m not even convinced Hitler or the Nazi senior leadership were as — at least, initially — anti-Jewish as they were sociopaths/psychopaths utilizing the pre-existing anti-Jewish sentiment to attain power. Though, there is the question whether acting racist and violently crushing all opposition reaches a point where they themselves either believe it, or wouldn’t dare voice the truth simply out of fear of being subject to the same violence they’ve used on others.
There are a lot of brown-faced populations in the Middle East for Israeli to genocide
Authoritarian support of Zionism has never been about giving the Jewish people a place to live, but instead about having an excuse to exile the Jews in their midst. Zionism is anti-Semitic.
No, not in the US. Here it’s absolutely about fear of Muslims and Iran. It’s about keeping them oppressed and controlled in an effort to prevent terrorist attacks. A lot of it is also just plain racism and skin color.
Always has been. Ethnicity and religion are made-up divides. Any system that seeks to keep humans divided within themselves, amongst themselves is the beast system led by one of many antichrists. Religion has been perverted by religious and political alike, for political reasons. If religion isn’t uniting someone within themselves, amongst themselves, healing schisms rather than creating them, that religion worships false gods, usually money/power. Those are tools to be used to accomplish that goal and we have ceded our real power of integrity and made them lord and master.
Yep, the reason for the holocaust was that the initial Nazi plan of exiling all the Jews to Madagascar was deemed impractical.
I mean, everything but extinction is impractical if you view your enemies as subhuman parasites.
Don’t wait up
You’d have better odds of living to see Moshiach on earth.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZXpnD2drnFk&t=26m
Found it. And what a bizarre point to add that anecdote.
His argument is that Palestinians are outright evil. The logic is that not all Germans were Nazis, some helped Jewish prisoners. Nothing like that happened from Palestinians when the hostages were imprisoned by Hamas.
Statistically this is a weak argument, but his point was not what the headline suggests.
This. I think it doesn’t help to make up shit about him. This only helps with his tale of the woke mob that don’t want freedom of speech.
I think it doesn’t help to make up shit about him
The words reported were his.
There were people showing love to jews in Nazi Germany. He didn’t mean the nazis were showing love by killing the jews and if you read what he said you know that.
Damn that fucked up. The Jewish MAGA freaks will continue to gulp down the Orange Kool-Aid mixed with Russian vodka.
