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Someone ping me when the ADL condemns Trump for this.
Why would they care about dead Jews from 80 years ago when trump is giving them the green light on killing Palestinians now?
When he’s done with the Palestinians, his love for the Jewish people and Israel will evaporate.
Authoritarian support of Zionism has never been about giving the Jewish people a place to live, but instead about having an excuse to exile the Jews in their midst. Zionism is anti-Semitic.
Yep, the reason for the holocaust was that the initial Nazi plan of exiling all the Jews to Madagascar was deemed impractical.
I mean, everything but extinction is impractical if you view your enemies as subhuman parasites.
Always has been. Ethnicity and religion are made-up divides. Any system that seeks to keep humans divided within themselves, amongst themselves is the beast system led by one of many antichrists. Religion has been perverted by religious and political alike, for political reasons. If religion isn’t uniting someone within themselves, amongst themselves, healing schisms rather than creating them, that religion worships false gods, usually money/power. Those are tools to be used to accomplish that goal and we have ceded our real power of integrity and made them lord and master.
No, not in the US. Here it’s absolutely about fear of Muslims and Iran. It’s about keeping them oppressed and controlled in an effort to prevent terrorist attacks. A lot of it is also just plain racism and skin color.
Probably not as long as Israel remains firmly fascist. Trump and most of the GOP are sociopaths/psychopaths. I doubt most of them actually believe the white supremacism and racism they peddle. It’s a means of class warfare to divide and conquer — to attain and maintain power. Though, as we all know, the out groups are fluid and can change at the whim of madmen.
At this point I’m not even convinced Hitler or the Nazi senior leadership were as — at least, initially — anti-Jewish as they were sociopaths/psychopaths utilizing the pre-existing anti-Jewish sentiment to attain power. Though, there is the question whether acting racist and violently crushing all opposition reaches a point where they themselves either believe it, or wouldn’t dare voice the truth simply out of fear of being subject to the same violence they’ve used on others.
There are a lot of brown-faced populations in the Middle East for Israeli to genocide
You’d have better odds of living to see Moshiach on earth.
Don’t wait up
so thats what nazis called the gas eh. can we get trump some of that love?
Only time I will ever say this but, I hope Trump gets the love he deserves. I only wish endless love for Trump.
So much love. The most love. Bigly love even. He’s going to have so much love, he won’t know where to put it all. He’ll have so much love, it’ll be hard to breathe. Suffocated by all that tariff free American love.
Heh. We want mercy for ourselves and “justice” for our neighbors. That’s what’s wrong with the world.
??? We want mercy for our sorry lives full of procrastination and justice for the mas murderers.
ha, theres no mercy in the u.s. the richest country in the world cant afford to solve for homelessness, hunger, education or racism
in the untied states justice means ‘revenge’.
It starts with individual attitude shifts, you know? If I was reared this way, and continued for another 3 decades and can make the shift, pretty much anyone can. The idea is not to shift back. While society and media seek to make it extremely difficult, it’s still very, very possible. Mandela had the right idea in not seeking revenge.
I wish I could agree with you. But mercy and lack of revenge the first time around is what brought us here today. Post civil war Reconstruction was far, far too kind to the people who thought they were entitled to owning the lives of other human beings.
Pollution doesn’t stay where we send it, literal or figurative. Weakness seeks to control others. Strength is calming our own inner beasts. Good luck friend.
love gas.
Did they give you a meal on the side? … Like, you know, what happened in Germany?
To be fair they did give prisoners a watery soup made with potato peels and a small piece of bread in between forced labor shifts. He is also making this the new school lunch standard.
School lunches is communism, they have to pay for their gruel
School lunch standard? Are you crazy?
Lets ask him how slaves in the New World were treated. That would be entertainment for days.
Now his marriage history makes more sense
The same love that the Palestinians have been receiving
It’s only recently I’ve come to the frightening realization that…we’re all tensely waiting for World War 3 to start. It HAS started, the fronts just aren’t within the traditional empires; and a good 70% of the war is on ideology and propaganda.
I think WW3 already happened - it was fought with oil in the '70s and the West lost (badly) to OPEC. The current one is WW4 and fought with information - and we’re losing (badly) again.
sorry not to be a douche but I think you’re both wrong. The cold war never ended it’s been ongoing
And Russia won it without spending any money on their military. They just had to hire a room full of internet trolls.
Ehh nobody has won yet Russia is still doing their three day special military operation like 1000 days later. I wouldn’t call that a win.
I think just like WWI and WWII the major powers will all lose and new players get a shot at finding a seat at the table
Not from the US but it’s this how all republicans view the Holocaust or is it just 47?
Who knows? It’s pretty clear that anyone supporting this regime is disconnected from reality.
Tell that to Anne Frank.
A book written by a woman? That sounds like DEI.
Full quote though it’s not really any better:
“I said to them, was there any sign of love?” Trump said, recounting his conversation with released hostages.
“Did the, Hamas, show any signs of like, help? Or liking you? Did they wink? Did they give you a piece of bread extra? Did they give you a meal on the side? … Like, you know, what happened in Germany?” Trump said, absurdly comparing the hostages’ situation to the Holocaust, which murdered six million Jews.
“People would try and help people that were in unbelievable distress,” the president went on, suggesting that the Nazis were known for their generosity.
“No, they didn’t do that, they’d slap us,” Trump said the hostages told him about Hamas, while sitting next to the man who is currently leading Israel’s genocide in Gaza. “Their hatred is unbelievable.”
I always knew about the gaschambers, but never really thought about how it was done, until I saw this video recently
It made me realize just how fucked up these people where.
Visit a concentration camp someday if you get the opportunity
I visited auschwitz when I was 15 on a achool trip, the entire place felt very dark. But I was too young (and stupid) to really understand the horrors that happened at that place.
The first time I got chills from an animated YouTube video. Crazy to think that people who are OK with this still exist and walk among us.
Same as the love Israelis are showing Palestinians in Gaza.
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I don’t think that’s right. The Haavara agreement was pragmatic, not ideological. Those groups were not allies and the Nazis targeted all Jews (because it was a racist policy, not a political one).
So some Zionist leaders negotiated the exit of Jewish people from Nazi Germany is what I get from that discussion. Like EU leaders today are negotiating with Trump. Is that the point you’re trying to make? I wouldn’t call Europeans Trump collaborators.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
I imagine this is what you refer to
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZXpnD2drnFk&t=26m
Found it. And what a bizarre point to add that anecdote.
His argument is that Palestinians are outright evil. The logic is that not all Germans were Nazis, some helped Jewish prisoners. Nothing like that happened from Palestinians when the hostages were imprisoned by Hamas.
Statistically this is a weak argument, but his point was not what the headline suggests.
This. I think it doesn’t help to make up shit about him. This only helps with his tale of the woke mob that don’t want freedom of speech.
I think it doesn’t help to make up shit about him
The words reported were his.
There were people showing love to jews in Nazi Germany. He didn’t mean the nazis were showing love by killing the jews and if you read what he said you know that.
His comments are still idiotic but what he’s saying is that in Germany some people where helping Jews, not that nazis treated them with “love” (at least in the fragment I’ve seen).
“Did the, Hamas, show any signs of like, help? Or liking you? Did they wink? Did they give you a piece of bread extra? Did they give you a meal on the side? … Like, you know, what happened in Germany?” Trump said, absurdly comparing the hostages’ situation to the Holocaust, which murdered six million Jews.
Looks like a direct Nazi prison guard comparison to me
I mean… who knows what rattles in his empty skull. For me he’s just rambling. It could be about Nazi guards or about Germans in general. He’s basically trying to say “Hamas is just hate while in Germany there was also some basic human kindness”. It’s obviously bullshit but translating it to “nazis treated Jews with love” is taking it too far.
The Lemmy hivemind cares not for nuance.
Oh, yes, the nuance of noted deep thinker Donald Trump.
How about the nuance of not letting this place turn into a reddit-like echo chamber and hub of disinformation spurred by clickbait headlines?
“I want this place that is designed exactly like reddit to be nothing like reddit.”
Let me know how that works out for you.
Well then why are you even here if Reddit already exists?
That’s why I have downvotes disabled :)
“People would try and help people that were in unbelievable distress,” the president went on, suggesting that the Nazis were known for their generosity.
Sounds like he’s talking about Germans in general to me, while the article immediately says that he must mean Nazis.
There’s a lot of dumb shit Trump says. I don’t think this is one of those things (his comparison between the holocaust and the hostages is still weird, but that’s typical “par for the course”).
he’s specifically asking about the treatment from Hamas and his examples don’t make sense in the context of just Germans… winking? giving an extra piece of bread?
His language is always tough to interpret but I’ve read the full quote several times now and I don’t see how it makes sense unless he’s comparing the hostage treatment from Hamas to the Nazis’ treatment of the Jewish people.
I don’t think he’s saying that the Nazis loved the Jewish people but I also don’t think that’s what the headline says either.
Yep, exactly that. Really no need to make up stupid shit he says. There’s enough of real stupid shit he actually says.
If the ‘Hamas’ word was ‘Palestinians’, maybe. Now it is clear he is talking about the Nazi officers and soldiers.
Dude, nothing Trump says is ever clear.
I think his odd choice of word is a result of both his limited vocabulary and his narcissism. He has no idea what feeling or expressing love for another person is.
I’m now officially convinced we all died during covid and went to hell
Yup this is the shittiest episode of lost yet.
It’s even worse. Christians fight hard to make hell on earth a reality so they can live for ever in peace in make believe land when they are no longer living?! Make it make sense.
Make it make sense.
It’s a death cult. It’s symbol is a half-naked tortured dying man being executed via nailed to a cross, took one look for me as a child to figure that out.
A make believe land that works pretty similarly to socialism, the whole thing they rail so hard against on earth
I saw a post like this the other day and it blew my fucking mind. Never thought about it before.
Obviously you’re working your heaven job and spending your heaven bucks.
That’s what supply side Jesus would want right?
Damn that fucked up. The Jewish MAGA freaks will continue to gulp down the Orange Kool-Aid mixed with Russian vodka.