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Deserved. Fuck Adobe!
adobe will charge you $20 a month to read their skeets then charge a $100 cancellation fee if you want to stop following them.
It’s $20 for the readers bundle, $1289 per year if you want to see photos and comment.
what are skeets
I’m guessing blue sky version of tweets
That’s correct. It’s stupid so I just say tweets.
Slang term for ejaculating, usually with some projectile distance implied. Very popular term in the mid-2000’s, see Get Low by Lil Jon.
Skeet skeet motha fucka
Skeets ahead or behind?
Apparently tweets, but on bluesky
The CEO asked people not to make skeets catch on, so of course that’s the word for them.
My skeets always catch on.
Tweets, but BSky. It’s gross on purpose because the devs didn’t want it to catch on and they Streisand’d. They’ve since embraced it lmao.
These days, bullying is used for good.
A top reply was posted on another lemmy community:
https://lemmy.world/post/27989752
I can’t see any screenshots from the article, all require a bluesky account. At least on twitter you could see images without login before the takeover. I’m alright if a for profit websites hides “their” content behind a login wall, it’s their choice, but how lazy is this “journalism” where they don’t copy the images, they just link to the original tweets or whatever they called on bluesky.
TBH it’s better journalism to include the link, but they could do both.
Source can be destroyed. An alternative screenshoot backup/proof is good measure. Especially in web its better to not depend on an outside server.
Like if they close (or some billionaire buy them and requires an account for everything), your content becomes worthless.
Sources can be recovered in archives & web caches. Screenshots can be fake.
Always prefer sources.
I don’t say “remove the source”, I say “the source can disappear, the way back machine have already been attacked, just do your own copy of the source and make it available”.
I know screenshots can be faked, but if your news source does it it is not reliable. Drop it immediately.
In that case, too, the text can be quoted, then just like magic it’s accessible. A quote that links to the source is a strong combination.
Everyone benefits: the text is searchable, reflowable, adaptable to multi-modal input & output, easy to quote via copy & paste, etc. It’s simply more useful & screenshots don’t inherently give any of that.
Yes. I talked about screenshots because the first message said:
I can’t see any screenshots from the article, all require a bluesky account. At least on twitter you could see images without login before the takeover.
For “text source only” I’m with you quotes are enough.
And if images are post anywhere, always provide an alt text, plz everyone !
If the point is to reproduce an image, not text, then yes, definitely provide those images. Agreed: nothing wrong in that.
That’s weird. The bluesky links in the article work fine for me, and I don’t have a bluesky account.
Ahh hang on, this one doesn’t work but all the rest do
https://bsky.app/profile/megzavala.bsky.social/post/3lmdz2tu6xk2x
Ahh here we go: it’s a user made setting not a bluesky one
“Sign-in Required This user has requested that their content only be shown to signed-in users. This label was applied by the author.”
Ahh here we go: it’s a user made setting not a bluesky one
“Sign-in Required This user has requested that their content only be shown to signed-in users. This label was applied by the author.”
Why would a user choose to enable that? Would that make it less likely to be scraped by a bot?
bsky started with nine of its posts. wing shown publicly so when they flopped the switch (i think they also opened registration without invites) some people who had gotten used to their post being hidden from the rest of the net felt exposed and the devs added this settings.
while i do not think its a great setting i kinda get it. especially given that there are not (yet) private accounts so that’s the best they have
Probably the same person who ends all of their comments on Lemmy with that stupid “anti-AI commercial license” or whatever bullshit.
It’s like the polar opposite of “Brought to you by Carl’s Jr.”
Not you. take CURSE OF RA [7 lines of incromprehensible egyptian hyroglyphs]
Best reply to a greeting by Adobe
I can’t see any screenshots
how lazy is this “journalism” where they don’t copy the images
Images of web content usually break accessibility (implicit ableism) unless alt text is provided, which really amounts to a poor substitute for embedding content, block quoting, or linking to source (what the web was made for), where no alt text is needed because the actual text is there.
Stop breaking accessibility: oppose inaccessible screenshots of accessible content.
No
Please stop with the “ablism” thing to shut down anything good but not good enough.
If I can’t see the info on bluesky without an account then yes, a screenshot should be required. Bluesky content can be deleted, but a screenshot stays.
Yes, I know that some people need screen readers and yes, we can improve upon this by, I dunno, making an image format for screenshots that allow for alt text or whatever.
What is not helpful is calling people tomstip using a normal day to day tool just because it isn’t perfectly adjusted for < 1% of the Internet users.
To be really clear about it, I’m not saying I don’t care about them, I’m saying you shouldn’t throw around insults just because someone didn’t do a standard task perfect enough for everyone, or mostly: you
No
Please stop with the “ablism” thing to shut down anything good but not good enough.
What is not helpful is calling people tomstip using a normal day to day tool just because it isn’t perfectly adjusted for < 1% of the Internet users.
Emphatic no to your no. Disabling content isn’t good or helpful. Disabled content is worse for everyone: no source, less functionality, less to corroborate, often harder to read. It’s only “good enough” for people able as you while pointlessly excluding those unlike you, ie, ableism.
16% of the world population experiences some form of disability. Anyone can become disabled temporarily or permanently. With age, nearly all of us become disabled in some capacity. This is as much a matter of self-regard & forethought as it is for regard of others. It is in your interest to have accessible content whether or not you realize it.
we can improve upon this by, I dunno, making an image format for screenshots that allow for alt text or whatever.
A new technology isn’t needed: not breaking what isn’t broken is enough. Better alternatives have existed since the beginning of the web: linking, embedding, or even copying & pasting the text into a blockquote. A screenshot of web content is a shitty tool serving the able-bodied.
If I can’t see the info on bluesky without an account then yes, a screenshot should be required.
That’s a strong argument for pressuring bluesky to cut their crap instead of enabling their structural ableism by taking screenshots. The alternatives mentioned before still exist.
Bluesky content can be deleted
There’s this crazy feature where if you select the text instead of a rectangle of screen, you can copy & paste it. Always been there. About the same number of steps. Wild.
I’m not saying I don’t care about them
Whether you “care” doesn’t matter when the effect is the same as not caring and the simplest actions anyone could take aren’t taken. The effect of that blithe, inconsiderate disregard is structural ableism. Rather than take the easy way out & reinforce this, we each have the power to address it.
Unlike the abstract issues often discussed here far removed from our control, these are practical actions within our immediate control. We all have power with the simplest of gestures to make our content accessible instead of selfishly able-centric.
Choosing not to when we know better indicates who we are. Defending acts to harmfully disable content also indicates who we are.
Emphatic no to your no. Disabling content isn’t good or helpful. Disabled content is worse for everyone: no source, less functionality, less to corroborate, often harder to read.
this is disabled content. we are barred from reading it, unless we register. parent commenter asked one thing: also include a screenshot for cases like this
this is an empathetic no to reading your comment any further
As written multiple times, there are better alternatives. Disregarding them is shortsighted ableism. I suggest some attention span.
better alternatives? linking, embeddib? worthless when the website itself decides thatbit won’t show you the content
quoting? you mean, all of the response tweets? and how do you quote images, videos?
worthless when the website itself decides thatbit won’t show you the content
Businesses are legally bound to make their online content accessible: a screenshot without alt text doesn’t solve this for them. Isn’t it common practice around here to link to archives? Quoting & linking isn’t worthless.
quoting? you mean, all of the response tweets?
Yes. Unreasonable? No, compulsory & common standard industry standard. Out of legal necessity (and market reach), they already write text out (as alt text for all meaningful images). An image of a tweet with replies requires writing all that text out.
Try this exercise yourself to realize how pointless an image of text is (which images of tweets mostly are). Take an image of text, write the markup to display the image, include an
alt
attribute set to the full text shown in the image. If you have any sense, you’ll return to the source of the image to copy & paste the original text into thealt
attribute. If you lack sense, you’ll tediously read the image and retype it into thealt
attribute. Your choice.Realize anything yet?
- You’re returning to the source, so linking it is basic sense, right?
- You already write text out, but your effort is wasted as a flat text attribute for an image that adds nothing compelling, only some meaningless visuals of UI artifacts. That text could instead be the main attraction with semantic mark up (blockquotes, paragraphs, lists, etc). It makes more sense to skip the image entirely & quote the text directly: less work, more functional, better.
and how do you quote images, videos?
The way it’s already done. Online news doesn’t typically give screenshots of images or videos. They link, embed, or copy the image or video to directly provide it alongside some quotes.
Selecting lines of text instead of rectangles of screen to copy & paste isn’t a novel, farfetched idea.
Bleets?
The Sheeples bleat on BlueSky?
Skeets
Lol, the article says skeet, but I like yours better.
Had me at the first 1/10th.
Any Lightroom classic alternative?
In the theme of above lightroom classic (cracked)
Otherwise not really. You’re looking at digiKam for the library management side and either RawTherapee or Darktable for editing.
I just couldn’t get used to how the UI of Darktable works. Rawtherapee is somewhat nice, usable at least. I’ll check out digikam, I do have a problem with organisation.
Rawtherapee or darktable for example.
On macOS I found that getting Photoshop to stay cracked was a hassle. This didn’t make me buy Photoshop, it just made me use something else.
Yeah, I used Adobe CS3 on the Mac for a very long time, because I may have had the activation key for my college’s site license…
That never gave me any trouble. But using other keys or cracks, a real pain in the ass.
I dumped Adobe completely several years ago, and found that Pixelmator has been an excellent Photoshop replacement. It even now does vector images - used to use an app called Graphic for that (for an Illustrator replacement), but should now be able to do all of that from Pixelmator.
I had a legit copy of CS6 for my windows computer, then switched to Mac and was unable to get a copy for it so I kept my windows laptop around for graphic design.
It died and now I use Affinity on my Mac and iPad.
Honestly nah, there are lots of other good options. Support the devs and people fueling real creativity rather than staying in Adobe’s ecosystem, paid or not.
Exactly this.
I use Affinity these days. Although it being purchased by Canva has me very worried.
Honestly nah, there are lots of other good options.
Unfortunately as someone who uses Adobe programs for work, the FLOSS alternatives are just not there yet :/ (especially considering how seamlessly Adobe programs work together)
My partner is a graphic designer and although she undeniably had some growing pains switching away from Adobe, she hasn’t looked back.
Thanks, that’s interesting to hear! Can I ask what sort of graphic design she does?
My work primarily involves CMYK publications made in InDesign, using graphics made in Illustrator and Photoshop. So inter-operability and compatibility with professional CMYK printing are key for my needs.
She also worked with Photoshop and Illustrator. She does many things. Freelance design work for people, as well advertising design for her work. She also does design for our website and ttrpg hobbies.
Thanks, glad to hear the alternatives work for her! Does she use FLOSS ones (Inkscape, Scribus, GIMP, Krita, etc.) or Affinity’s programs?
Affinity primarily.
Top meme
Same thing happened with Proton.
proton did it to themselves by embracing the us and their fascist leader.
I assume that’s the VPN proton and not the linux compatibility layer proton, right?
Correct proton.me email/VPN/drive’s CEO Andy Yen
https://xcancel.com/andyyen/status/1864436449942110660
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42837181
Andy used proton’s official accounts to voice his political stances for the regime. They have since retracted the statement but it’s still worrying to say the least and something to keep an eye on if you use their services.
I’ve been using them for years and don’t think it’s quite time to jump ship because it is the best option for me, but I’m keeping a close eye to see if it worsens and starts affecting the company in a negative manner.
And the CEO just did it again, because apparently it wasn’t enough backlash the first time.
Source?
It’s in French, but here’s a link:
https://www.watson.ch/fr/!884988581Basically, Yen did an interview for Watson (a magazine) where he talked about the swedish government encroaching on encryption. He got political when he started talking about how all of the Swedish government officials were useless bureaucrats, and praised the US government’s methods instead.
Where does that article say anything like that? I could find neither a mention of Sweden nor of the US.
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You’re gonna need a bettet source than that, because this article and your comment say very different things. Why do people upvote comments like this one?
Because reading articles is hard, better to blindly trust a headline and summary comment. People on Lemmy wouldn’t lie to me, would they?
they would surely fear the shame their names would get if it turned out they were lying, don’t you think?
because they don’t read it. has a source? must be true!
The Switzerland part:
There are three problems to be insulated. First of all, by extending the scope to a larger number of companies than was previously regulated for a few telecommunications giants, a massive expansion of Switzerland’s surveillance state is in fact being carried out.
There have been cases where we have seen demands against climate activists in France, we have seen situations where Catalan independence leaders have been unfairly targeted. I have many other examples that are not yet public about inappropriate targeting by the SCPT Service, which does not make any verification.
Switzerland is not a favourable land for tech start-ups? The Swiss start-up ecosystem is now more competitive than Germany, more competitive than the EU, more competitive than the US itself. But with this consultation, we are making it much less attractive by imposing massive obligations and burdens on small businesses that do not have the resources to do so.
I couldn’t find the US is awesome part though.
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mic_check_one_two did not mention anything related to Switzerland. They’ve mentioned Sweden.
Yoowut, link?
and yet all those “use eu tech” charts always recommend proton products
It’s weird. It’s like there’s some kind of paid advertising campaign using bots who are never seen outside of shilling their company for some reason.
Oh lord, what now ?
I know Curse of Ra will get old if it isn’t already for some, but it’s my favorite stupid meme currently.
Praise be unto RA, destroyer of Brands!
I’ve replaced my Adobe Audition with Reaper. I do recommend it
Finally lost my reaper purchase after nearly 15 years. Remember when buying it at uni thinking of been a bit hard done by I was only supported till like version 7
I didn’t, but I do want more people to switch to Reaper so that they can get more money and keep getting better.
Per screenshots of the “skeet,” as folks on the butterfly app are wont to call their posts
What the fuck is this word salad?
bluesky tweet
English.
The word that’s throwing you off is probably wont
wont
(archaic or humorous) One's habitual way of doing things; custom, habit, practice.
Is this some word that’s commonly used in some English speaking countries? I’m a native speaker and have never heard or seen this word ever being used.
As far as I know it’s not commonly used anywhere, and is mostly used for effect.
I think it used to be more common in my parents’ generation.
The only people that are wont to use this are either somewhat pretentious/want to sound learned, or are using it for old timey comedic effect.
Learned is another word for wise or well taught, before anyone asks. It’s said ‘Learned’, not ‘learn-ed’.
yeah, that one threw me for a loop and I consider my vocabulary to be fairly decent. I just assumed it was missing the apostroph to make it “won’t”. Thanks for clearing that up
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Per screenshots of the “skeet” = As can be understood from screenshots of the post, also known as a “skeet”
as folks on the butterfly app = (a name that) users of Bluesky
are wont to call their posts… = like to call their posts…
“Skeet” being a combination of “sky” and “tweet”, which I hope you can figure out the origins of, and also a somewhat dirty word that the owners of Bluesky would really prefer people didn’t use as the non-generic name for posts on their platform, but is also disturbingly accurate if you compare the conceptually similar word “disseminate” for the spreading of information.
I should probably have separated the above into two sentences somewhere.
That’s not word salad.
How is it not? It makes absolutely no sense.
It really does make perfect sense. There is nothing grammatically or semantically wrong with the bit you quoted. Is English your first language?
Aside from being angry at their choice to call their “tweet” equivalent “Skeets”, which bit confuses you?
Aside from being angry at their choice to call their “tweet” equivalent “Skeets”
I’m not angry, I legitimately just didn’t know that.
which bit confuses you?
…the whole thing? Hence “word salad”.
While it may be difficult to start reading books at the point you are at, it seems like it might be worth the effort to overcome the initial difficulties.
Ah yes, my confusion totally warrants personal insults, thank you for that.
That’s fair. Though it was more in response to how consistently negative you were being to everyone else. Like you were trying to prove to everyone else the sentence was as hard to read as you thought it was. I was more attacking the character you were playing with ad hominem, to show you how your position was coming across.
LOL I’ve no idea what you’re on about, I wasn’t playing any “character”.
Well, not at first, but after an hour of everyone explaining the sentence, and how it was a proper well-written sentence, at some point maintaining that you were correct that it didn’t make sense had to start being a character you were playing.
Whether unintentionally manifested through ODD, or intentional, same difference.
It’s okay to admit that you don’t understand what is being said. That doesn’t make it “word salad”
The fact that it’s seemingly a bunch of random words crammed together in a sentence makes it “word salad”.
Operative word being “seemingly”.
Also seemingly: you not being as literate as you think you are.
Operative word being “seemingly”.
I am aware. That’s why I wrote it. It was not an accident. It was not a declarative statement.
Also seemingly: you’re being an unnecessary asshole. Goodbye.
I’m in the UK this week, it’s how they talk. It’s fun but can be difficult understanding what someone actually means 30 seconds later
As seen in the screenshot of the “skeet” (BlueSky post), as users of BlueSky like to call their posts.
It looks like perfectly cromulent English to me.
Ooooo nostalgia. Who remembers the time of Aldus Freehand and Aldus Pagemaker, Quark XPress and Ventura Publisher. Those where the days :-) 😍
“So much for the tolerant left”
*Do you guys get this is supposed to be adobe saying it? whatever I guess I need a stupid \s or something
I must be some galaxy brain to understand you!
Don’t worry I thought it was funny.
Hey as long as I break even it’s a win
Why dont they get bullied on X as well?
Consider X’s current audience and you’ll have your answer
What would be a good alternative to Adobe After Effects ? Something that works in the same way.
I only used kdenlive an open source Video editor, I do not know how similar it is to AE though. With kdenlive I can …
- cut and arange video snippets in a timeline
- apply effects like transform/lens (many more) to video
- I can apply simple audio effects with the pitch effect, or generate white noise. Slow down Video
- they have AI-effects and audio editing in their roadmap …
Sounds similar to AE from what I read on its wiki entry
I use Blender for video editing, and as long as I never use another video editing package, I am sure to remain perfectly happy with Blender.
Thanks for sharing, This might be good enough in the future looking at the roadmap.
That is a video editor much like Adobe Premier or Final Cut Pro, so would not be a replacement for AE. After Effects is essentially Photoshop but with motion and animation. It’s mostly for VFX and Motion Graphics. Not video editing or audio.
I use Blender for that, too. Anything I don’t do in Blender I probably do in emacs…
Is it possible to learn such sorcery ?
Can’t think of a more deserving company