way to make life less safe for everyone, idiots
man jk rowlings grave is going to be the most fertilised plot of soil in all of the uk
Yet another case of a British institution making decisions about trans people without letting them participate, but allowing ‘gender-critical’ transphobes to, and fucking them over.
The courts can only interpret the law. The wording of the law refers to ‘sex’ i.e. Biological sex, not gender, hence the ruling.
Only the media is talking about the ‘definition of a woman’. This is not what the ruling is on.
That isn’t to say that the equalities act shouldn’t be changed to also include gender, I strongly believe it should and hope against hope that the Labour government will, but it is not in the supreme court’s power to enact new law.
Lack of understanding of the legal system leads to a lot of misdirected anger, I’m on your side, but be angry at the right people.
The Supreme Court can only work with the laws as written. The legislation defines women by sex at birth, so they are right to make the ruling they have. Those opposed should direct their efforts to Parliament, who can re-write the law. This ruling is a positive step as it sets out clearly how the law currently stands.
i mean the supreme court purposely went out of their way to only consult with bigots and refuse to allow trans people to speak fuck them.
How is a ruling that just removed protections trans people had yesterday a ‘positive step’?
It didn’t remove protections trans people had yesterday. It clarified that they didn’t have those protections under that law yesterday, because the law in question defined women by sex. Now that is understood, further legislation to add protections can be proposed. The ruling also pointed out that there are also existing protections under another law.
Practically they did have them though, albeit under a legal grey area.
The ruling also pointed out that there are also existing protections under another law.
They said you can’t discriminate against trans people on the basis of gender reassignment. You can, however, simultaneously discrimination against trans people on the basis of assigned gender at birth and they can be excluded from sex-segregated spaces of their assigned gender if they look too much like the other sex. So the Supreme Court just ruled on the question of ‘which toilet should a trans person use’ by saying ‘neither’. This is what happens when you only consult with trans hate groups like Sex Matters and don’t consult with trans people.
This legal case was largely funded by JK Rowling aswell AFAIK.
Please don’t buy her books or watch her shows/movies, because you’re literally financially contributing to this. (Piracy is fine)
Great job. Now trans and cis people are going to get harassed for being in the wrong bathrooms by the gender police.
Fantastic work by team bigot.
Now trans and cis people are going to get harassed for being in the wrong bathrooms by the gender police.
They said on the radio that the changes in bathroom laws in the US have mainly impacted butch lesbians. This is going to get messy.
Already happening sadly, and not by accident either. It’s not just about rolling back trans rights, it’s about dragging us back to narrow and restrictive ideas of sex and gender in general.
I wonder what these morons think about intersex people or is that concept beyond a primary school child’s understanding so not considered by the judges?
It’s a group funded by JK Rowling, she is laser-focused on trans woman and so intersex people and trans men are an after thought, if they are even given a thought.
Just wait till trans men using the ladies bathrooms etc. causes uproar.
IMO this is the definitive way to demonstrate the absurdity of their position; essentially coordinated mobbing of “women’s spaces”, by AFAB/FtM trans/intersex groups.
I am however, also aware that it requires marginalised groups of a marginalised group to paint a big target on themselves, and thus understand why it’s not been massively used to protest this dumb bigotry.
The judges can only consider the law as written, which uses a sex at birth definition. They can’t make new stuff up out of nowhere. That’s Parliament’s job.
Just to be clear, this was an interpretation of existing law from like 15 years ago, not new legislation or anything. Now that a ruling has been made then it should be clear what needs to be changed in order to bring things more up to date.
look at these freaks cheering this on
That was my first thought as well. These sad people who are so proud of getting up in other people’s business and celebrate making peoples lives miserable.
As the movie The Phantom Tollbooth once said – “♪♫ RHYME AND REASON REIGN ONCE MORRRRREE ♪♫”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Es321GgoAw
♪♫ Let sense and sanity prevail! ♪♫
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Yes, “common sense”. The interesting thing about science is how often it tells you “common sense” is horseshit. Try get through a physics degree on “common sense” and we can discuss exactly how stupid you are.
Congratulations! People like you made everything less safe for all women. Way to go! You’re a true champion of the people.
Typical conservative. Hates women, too stupid to engage in conversation. Boring.
How? Also you say “people like me.” You don’t know me so how can you comment on people like me?
This will negatively impact every single woman that doesn’t meet a made up standard of femininity. More cis women will be harassed, assaulted, and expelled than exist trans women period because people don’t think they look female enough. It’s already happening.
You cheer because you hate women. Not just trans women, you hate women. It’s that simple.
Wow… So much hate, you must be so proud of yourself, knowing what other people feel, how they feel about other human beings.
people who can’t achieve arousal without headlines accounting for the further marginalization of at risk groups are having their own disgusting golden age; glad you’re having so much fun and feeling so at home in the clown world.
They know what you said.
Which is that you’d like this person to use the ladies room:
And you’d like this person to have to use the male facilities :
Tell me again how that’s good?
I believe women should use women’s toilets and men should use men’s toilets. Just because I have a different view, doesn’t make me evil or want an unsafe world
You didn’t answer me. You avoided the question, just like people like you alway do.
And by “people like you” I’m talking about people who are very easily led by childish hateful rhetoric which doesn’t make sense. You’re so easily led by it that you won’t even quit when someone shoves your face in the pile of illogical bullshit you claim to believe in.
I ask again.
You are saying that you think it’s good that this person will have to use the ladies room?
You don’t think his presence will disturb the other women, what with him having such muscles and masculine traits, despite having been born with XX chromosomes and a vagina?
And on the other side, you don’t care at all about people like this
getting harassed by drunken males in male facilities, which she will have to go into, despite her obvious femininity.Stand behind your logic or abandon it.
What are you on about? How hard is it to understand that people have different opinions and beliefs? I believe biological women should have the right to use women only toilets, biological men should have the right to use men only toilets. That isn’t hard to read or understand.
What a fucking weasel-ey answer.
Answer the question. It’s not a hard question to read or understand.
#I ask once again.
You are saying that you think it’s good that this person will have to use the ladies room?
You don’t think his presence will disturb the other women, what with him having such muscles and masculine traits, despite having been born with XX chromosomes and a vagina?
And on the other side, you don’t care at all about people like this
getting harassed by drunken males in male facilities, which she will have to go into, despite her obvious femininity.Stand behind your logic or abandon it.
So which one do the intersex people use then?
According to Baroness Falkner on R4 this morning, they can use their considerable lobbying power to advocate for “third spaces.” She actually said that about trans people, not intersex, but I presume her response would have been the same.
But in the meantime, going anywhere (or doing any sport) is probably off the cards. But thank goodness we have “clarity”, right?
