Researchers have come up with two new urinal designs to prevent the spillage of “ill-aimed pee.”
Y’all obviously never heard of the pee cube
Most of it is in my bathroom when my father-in-law visits.
Spilled makes it sound like someone’s clumsily carrying around a barrel of urine throughout public toilets.
The waste (╯°□°)╯
Think of what we could be doing with that urine if we actually invested in recapturing it.
Not sure if youre sarcastic or not (I was), but there has actually been research if the nutrients in urine can be used as fertiliser and I believe the result was positive.
DOGE needs to fix this.
The researchers suggest that if Nautilus was to replace the 56 million urinals across the U.S., around 1 million liters of urine would be prevented from being splashed onto the floor every day. Assuming that the volume of water needed to clean up spilled urine is about 10 times that of the volume of urine, about 10 million liters (2,199,692 gallons) of fresh water could be saved every day, the scientists said.
The widespread adoption of these urinal designs “would result in considerable conservation of human resources, cost, cleaning chemicals, and water usage, rendering large-scale impacts on modern society by improving sustainability, hygiene, and accessibility,” the researchers wrote.
They should drop everything and do this first thing.
Assuming that the volume of water needed to clean up spilled urine is about 10 times that of the volume of urine, about 10 million liters (2,199,692 gallons) of fresh water could be saved every day, the scientists said.
These scientists appear to be working under the incorrect assumption that the urine gets cleaned…
They’re also assuming the bathroom floors wouldn’t be cleaned regularly if there wasn’t urine on them. I’m pretty sure all buildings with a custodial staff mops the floor everyday, bathrooms twice a day. They’d at most reduce cleaning the bathroom to once daily instead if these urinals we’re absolutely perfect and no other reason for cleaning bathroom floors existed.
Citation needed.
Thank you protestor. I mean it doesn’t even pass the possibility test. 300m people population, 1m litres ≈ 300L per person, per day?
It’s the opposite, it would be 1/300 L/person/day, or 1L per 300 persons
You got your numbers mixed around.
1m liters/340m men = 0.00294 liters per day
That’s just under 3ml, which is very little, but still seems high. Assuming that not every man is using only the urinal, the number per urinal usage is even higher. But I also don’t know american public bathrooms, are they that filthy?
Oh damn. I sure did.
I’m sure there’s one weirdo responsible for ~70m liters, peeing at the floor at every opportunity.
It’s not my fault. It just flails around like a garden hose and even with both hands I simply don’t have the strength to wrangle that python.
It’s only about 170m men, so almost 6ml
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It is literally in the article: https://academic.oup.com/pnasnexus/article/4/4/pgaf087/8098745
Oh yeah, sorry about that.
Sit and pee.
Urinals are disgusting.
/European man
I used to be in this camp, but will now avoid public toilets whenever possible. Not having to sit on others pee and butt sweat is pretty awesome.
American here. I’ve started doing this at home and it’s just way more sanitary. No more drops off pissy toilet water splashing around.
When I’m out and about I still pee standing up because public restrooms are filthy.
I sit to pee when I get up in the middle of the night. Don’t have to be able to see.
That’s a good point too.
Us poor women gotta sit :(
Well when there are no seat covers, I always lay some TP over the seat before sitting. Or squat without sitting.
First wipe the seat, because people be nasty and leave piss droplets while hovering, then line the TP. Unless there’s no toilet seat, then it’s hover time.
People might sit more in your country, but I’ve never heard of that being particularly European.
Hmm, well there’s that. So Germany and Scandinavia ranker higher (I’m from Denmark and sometimes sit). I have to wonder how this correlates to a standard development index. It’s not unusual for the US to be a cultural outlier on those.
But urinals are so much more efficient both in regards to water usage and time.
They’re very efficient at spreading piss all over the place, yes.
A little bit of piss never hurt nobody.
Sure pal, and it’s not like 90% of men piss standing into a toilet as well, which oftentimes ends up worse than using a urinal.
… and those same men wonder why women find them repulsive.
Sit and pee.
Are you German? They’re famous for their sitzpinklers
Love that word/anecdote! It’s a good example of a German compound word but it’s also one of the silliest examples of male identity gatekeeping I’ve heard of.
At home, absolutely.
Out and about, I ain’t sitting on that nasty seat, thank you very much.
I see someone skipped leg day.
I just hover over the seat.
I always forget to bring my scroll of levitation when I go out!
Never not seen a urinal in europe
Stand and pee.
Sitting is bad.
/Australian man
Squat and pee.
Sitting and standing is bad.
/Italian man
Pee however you want
Worrying about what other people do when they aren’t hurting anyone is fragile
/Master man
Pee in mouth?
/Kinky manPee on self?
/Bison man
How the fuck else u supposed to water the trees?
Just turn on the rain, that’s all there’s to it
In fucking straya? That shit just decides to stop working sometimes.
… says the guy who wee-wees upside down
It’s all me. Sorry. I’ll work on my aim.
I do like the Nautilus and wish the designed for everyone philosophy was the predominant one. Especially you get one lower level one put in when they could all be functional for everyone.
“The researchers’ Cornucopia and Nautilus designs both achieved a significant reduction in urine splashing, with the Cornucopia performing best. However, the Nautilus was considered the most ideal design due to its height, which would allow shorter people — including children or those in wheelchairs — to more easily use it. Its larger gape would also be easier to clean, and would be more accepting of poor aim, and therefore would also be appropriate for use on boats or airplanes.”
Where’s ye goode olde piss channel?
Now do it for Ireland and measure it in pints.
You can keep it about Americans though.
Just bring back the old floor mounted types
Now its all over my shoes.
Am I the only one thinking what’s the big deal? Bathroom floors are usually hard surfaces and have a drain. Im not a urinal user, so take that for what it’s worth.
I used to work at an office where about 200 people shared two urinals, and by lunchtime the entire floor around the urinals would be sticky and brown from the continued cycles of people walking through and adding to the stray spray.
I don’t want to have to stand in someone elses piss puddle while taking a leak or worse yet slip and fall in it.
So pee all over the floor first so it’s at least your own piss puddle.
Gotta mark my territory lol.
The people who did the research do think it is a big deal, and it might be exactly the reason why you don’t use a urinal (although that could also have to do with your body parts, I don’t know you).
[…] the researchers wrote in the study. “The use of urinals often results in significant splatter (splashback) as urine splashes upon impact with the urinal generating droplets which travel back onto the floor and user.”
This splashback is a breeding ground for bacteria, resulting in bad smells in public restrooms and the potential for the spread of diseases.
“The surfaces of urinals have significantly higher concentrations of bacteria than traditional toilets, with surrounding floors having the highest level,” the researchers added.
This high level of spillage of urine requires frequent cleaning, which uses a large volume of water, is unpleasant work for custodial staff and is very expensive.
My biggest issue is stream strength. I have issues peeing and often dribble or have a split stream.
Yes I’ve talked to my urologist about it. Several in fact.
No it’s not my prostate. No it’s not a weak pelvic floor.
I’ve been suffering with this for almost 20 years and docs still don’t know what’s going on.
Sorry about the narrow urethra, Hank.
I find split steam is more common after very long nights of sex
Yes…my partner knows this all too well. 😅
I wonder wether they took these kinds of things in account in the research, if it’s about collecting to highest percentage of pee possible than I’d argue this matters too. They also say their design is better for children and people in wheelchairs so who knows.
How about just sitting down on the toilet? Don’t get me wrong it’s great you got it checked out but sometimes there are pretty simple solutions.
I knew a guy in high school that absolutely refused to sit to pee. Said every time he had to shit he would stand to pee than turn around and go.
Some men are just insane
What was his reasoning?
Said only females and cripples sit to pee
Yep, that’s about as insane as I was expecting, lol.
I asked him if he ever cropped dusted himself by accident and everyone laughed when he hesitated
I will sit when every toilet is elongated enough to not risk rubbing my junk on the rim.
Look at mister two and a half inches over here.
Sitting down isn’t always feasible. For example, the bathroom in my house has a round toilet bowl and my cock doesn’t fit. The bathroom is too small for an elongated bowl.
I use a cup for home and at work I just do my best.
I have no idea how small your toilet or large your penis is, but what do you do with your penis, when you have bowel movement?
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My penis sits on the toilet seat between my legs. It’s uncomfortable to put under the seat to pee.
How do you not pee while poopping? I thought all poopoo times were peepee times.
Maybe he does. Where do you think all these liters off spilled pee are coming from?
I have to imagine that a fair amount of that is intentional. Some people are just pigs.
100%.
Fun fact: intentionally leaving pee on floors and toilet seats is a lesser-known but frequently-observed associated trait of Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD).
I guess it’s some kind of primal lizard brained “territorial” thing, I dunno.
I’m struggling to find sources for this but I’d love to learn more. Anything you can share?
I’m pretty sure they are either making shit up or regurgitating something that was made up by someone else. Most bad habits that people attribute to some personality disorder is just nonsense and you can fairly easily disregard it. It’s like the asshole that says they’re OCD because they think it means you’re a little quirky.
For a while I worked for a shitty little marketing company that had, shall we say, a high frequency of narcissistic traits among the C suite. The men’s room in that office was the worst I’ve ever seen in terms of there always being puddles of piss on the floor.
Also, a very large majority of the execs didn’t wash their hands when they were finished.
Two things that rattle around my brain constantly:
- Leave it better than you found it.
- Be mindful of the work you leave for others.
Those don’t even come to my mind, I live them without thought.
OK, sometimes if a thing is a PITA I’ll think, “Crap, can’t make someone else do it.”
OK. Well you’re better than me. ✌️
Nah, not better. You will eventually stop thinking about these things and they’ll just happen.
I do but the mindfulness is a feature, not a bug.
Fuckin’ Thomas Kinkade
*some men…it’s pretty difficult to miss the bowl when seated lol
Yeah, but there’s plenty of women who don’t want to touch the toilet seat so they hover over it and get it dirty as a result.
Ironic isn’t it? It would have been fine if everyon just sat down. Just whipe the seat with a cleaning tissue first if you don’t trust it.
I can’t explain the psychology behind it, but this really simple design technique apparently still works.
Apparently some men need a reason to aim, and will continue doing so even after they realize they’ve been bamboozled.