Researchers have come up with two new urinal designs to prevent the spillage of “ill-aimed pee.”
They are fixing a problem that has already been solved. There are already urinals that take this into consideration. The problem is not in the design, it is the implementation. For some reason everybody everywhere installs those awful American Standard urinals that are specifically designed to splatter pee onto your pants.
For some reason
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I’m doing MY part!!!
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I seriously doubt this number, as it’s roughly 7ml for every male in America. I recall from chemistry classes that there are about 10 drops of water in a ml, so that’s 70 full-size drops - or a lot more small droplets - hitting the floor during a day of peeing a few times. A lot of it would land on the front of our pants, so it would be super common for guys to have pee liberally splattered all over our pants. That just doesn’t happen, unless maybe you did something weird like pee straight at a tile wall. The only way this could be true is if there are a significant number of guys who deliberately pee on the floor. Anybody wanna fess up?
It’s more like 6ml (264172/166100000 gallons), and considering the average man produces between 800 and 2000ml per day, that’s like a 0.5% spill rate.
Also it says nothing about the rate being evenly distributed over the days, it could be that the average guy spills a fraction of a liter in one slip up every couple weeks, not 6ml every single day. Plus the young and elderly likely throw off those averages.
Lastly, your assumption that most drops go on the pants ignores the whole point of the new design this article is about: the splashback. They claim most of the urine that misses a urinal splashes out in microdroplets.
I quit caring a while back so I could be driving up the numbers.
Ultimate solution:
Gotta paint some faces on there, with puckered lips.
Seems like a complete lie. Men might lose a few drops due to the shape of the bowl tops. It’s certainly not worth anyone tearing out urinals in the hope some hypothetical piss splashage goes down.
And personally a better goal for urinal design is water reduction. i.e. urinals that use no water, or the bare minimum to flush the piss through.
a better goal for urinal design is water reduction. i.e. urinals that use no water
Don’t get me started on those “zero water” urinals. They start to stink and accumulate all kinds of nasty in a matter of weeks. There’s a reason we flush all of that stuff down the toilet and into the sewers.
They have them in all the McDonald’s around here and I’ve never noticed any difference in smell. There is a sticker near the urinal saying they save tens of thousands of litres of drinking water per year which I can believe. I think the system has some kind of valve and siphon to prevent smells.
It’s a little more than 1/2 a teaspoon, per person. Not exactly hard to believe.
Men aren’t dumping half a teaspoon of piss on the floor. Adults are capable of aiming and pissing and the only waste might be where piss strikes a surface and droplets escape the bowl - assuming the bowl was terrible and everyone in the nation pissed at the exact angle to cause droplets to achieve escape velocity. It’s an absurd generalisation and also an absurd problem in search of a solution.
I recall one place I worked. There was a “ofd” older gentleman. I was in the restroom with him at a urinal. He went to the paper towel holder, grabbed about 5 pieces, folded them, and then proceeded to wipe the inside of the urinal out. After he finished, he put the paper towel into one of his back pockets and peed, I think. I didn’t stay to watch him finish. I just exited the bathroom and didn’t look back.
You mean “OCD?”. Because that a pretty brutal example of the reality versus the fiction of it.
Citation needed.
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It is literally in the article: https://academic.oup.com/pnasnexus/article/4/4/pgaf087/8098745
Thank you protestor. I mean it doesn’t even pass the possibility test. 300m people population, 1m litres ≈ 300L per person, per day?
You got your numbers mixed around.
1m liters/340m men = 0.00294 liters per day
That’s just under 3ml, which is very little, but still seems high. Assuming that not every man is using only the urinal, the number per urinal usage is even higher. But I also don’t know american public bathrooms, are they that filthy?
I’m sure there’s one weirdo responsible for ~70m liters, peeing at the floor at every opportunity.
It’s not my fault. It just flails around like a garden hose and even with both hands I simply don’t have the strength to wrangle that python.
It’s only about 170m men, so almost 6ml
Oh damn. I sure did.
It’s the opposite, it would be 1/300 L/person/day, or 1L per 300 persons
In space, no one can hear you pee:
where does all the p go captain? 🫣
Its part of the P - drive jet propulsion system.
It gets recycled. Water is expensive to get to space and most their food is dehydrated.
For context: everything that goes to space is worth it’s weight in gold… So a liter of water is worth ~$60k
But nothing has any weight in space.
If you’re going to try ackshually-ing, you could at least be right. Even if you presuppose that “weight is force” (which, frankly, is one of those distinctions that people love to parade around to make themselves sound smart, but generally ignores historical, lingual, and legal contexts), objects in LEO are still attracted to earth with about 90% of the force they would be on earth’s surface.
Unless you’re one of those loons who only call the reaction force of a static system weight, in which case may God have mercy on your soul.
Maybe the phrasing “nothing in space” was off, but I didn’t mean anything close to planetary orbit.
That said, you seem to have a chip on your shoulder about the definition of weight for some reason, and I’m kinda curious about that.
Most of it is in my bathroom when my father-in-law visits.
And I know the employee bathroom where you can find it.
I have to imagine that a fair amount of that is intentional. Some people are just pigs.
100%.
Fun fact: intentionally leaving pee on floors and toilet seats is a lesser-known but frequently-observed associated trait of Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD).
I guess it’s some kind of primal lizard brained “territorial” thing, I dunno.
Two things that rattle around my brain constantly:
- Leave it better than you found it.
- Be mindful of the work you leave for others.
Those don’t even come to my mind, I live them without thought.
OK, sometimes if a thing is a PITA I’ll think, “Crap, can’t make someone else do it.”
OK. Well you’re better than me. ✌️
Nah, not better. You will eventually stop thinking about these things and they’ll just happen.
I do but the mindfulness is a feature, not a bug.
For a while I worked for a shitty little marketing company that had, shall we say, a high frequency of narcissistic traits among the C suite. The men’s room in that office was the worst I’ve ever seen in terms of there always being puddles of piss on the floor.
Also, a very large majority of the execs didn’t wash their hands when they were finished.
I’m struggling to find sources for this but I’d love to learn more. Anything you can share?
I’m pretty sure they are either making shit up or regurgitating something that was made up by someone else. Most bad habits that people attribute to some personality disorder is just nonsense and you can fairly easily disregard it. It’s like the asshole that says they’re OCD because they think it means you’re a little quirky.
Fuckin’ Thomas Kinkade
*some men…it’s pretty difficult to miss the bowl when seated lol
Yeah, but there’s plenty of women who don’t want to touch the toilet seat so they hover over it and get it dirty as a result.
Ironic isn’t it? It would have been fine if everyon just sat down. Just whipe the seat with a cleaning tissue first if you don’t trust it.
I can’t explain the psychology behind it, but this really simple design technique apparently still works.
Apparently some men need a reason to aim, and will continue doing so even after they realize they’ve been bamboozled.
I know I, for one, was concerned about all this wasted piss, and I’m glad there’s a team of scientists looking into a solution.
I do like the Nautilus and wish the designed for everyone philosophy was the predominant one. Especially you get one lower level one put in when they could all be functional for everyone.
“The researchers’ Cornucopia and Nautilus designs both achieved a significant reduction in urine splashing, with the Cornucopia performing best. However, the Nautilus was considered the most ideal design due to its height, which would allow shorter people — including children or those in wheelchairs — to more easily use it. Its larger gape would also be easier to clean, and would be more accepting of poor aim, and therefore would also be appropriate for use on boats or airplanes.”
LEG DAY EVERY DAY
Is there a third to wipe?
I want to know how they estimated that
Do a small test with a single user, take the amount of spillage then times it by the pissing population and average numbers of wees a day.
