I will be goign by the name song here … I will not answer questions that will leak my personal information … I will not answer questions about work … I will not answer questions that can link to my real identitiy !!
What’s your hope for future relations between North and South Korea?
I hope the two countrys can unite soon !! We are the same people . It is sad we are not together . I have distant family in the south … We do not know they are alive .
How do nkoreans intend to get rid of the current nkorean government that doesn’t want to unite ? They say they want to in words and policy, but their action says otherwise.
Till this day Nkorea with their china puppet leader, has soldiers at the border with skorea that violently refuse reunification. To help their master china, create a buffer.
Nkorea even restricts Internet access and media to prevent any reunification.
To further block reunification, Nkorea are even prevented from visiting Seoul.
Kim family has pretty much destroyed nkorea as a country to exist, normally.
Actions speaks louder than words and policies.
It’s been longstanding NK policy to reunite. The elections they won that caused US war was a reunification platform. Recent abandonment of that policy just reflects practicalities of a US puppet in South (who is now impeached, but same party replacement)
Do you imagine them uniting under one of the current governments, or some kind of new or hybrid government?
I do not know … I hope we can be together at peace . I want for the government to take care of the people . Everyone .
One of lemmy’s biggest gaps has been it’s lack of creative writing. It’s great to see some of the popular fiction is finally reaching us
This person is a faker using translate. Even allowing for differences between southern and northern dialects, they do not speak Korean like a Korean. Their English grammatical and spelling errors are also not even remotely close to those typically made by Koreans who are only partly familiar with English. They have also referred to their country as “북한”: “North Korea”. Pretty sure that’s a hangable offense up there in the land of Joseon.
Entertainment maybe, but don’t expect any truth in here. Kinda like Fox News I suppose.
OP: Next time, don’t use commas in your Hangeul. They are a western invention. South Koreans use them very rarely, now. I can’t imagine North Koreans use them at all.
This post technically doesn’t go against out rules, aside from not having a question mark, so I will leave it up, but please note that there is no way to verify this person is actually who they say they are, and you should be wary of misinformation online.
안녕하세요. 저는 북한에서 온 평범한 사람입니다. 여러분이 저를 믿거나 신뢰할 필요는 없습니다. 저는 여러분의 신뢰나 우정으로부터 어떤 이득도 얻을 수 없습니다. 다만 북한에서의 일상적인 삶에 대한 솔직한 이야기를 나누고 싶습니다.
많은 분들이 북한 사람을 직접 만날 기회가 없으실 겁니다. 그건 당연한 일입니다. 우리 대부분은 인터넷 접근이 제한되어 있기 때문입니다. 제 영어 실력이 부족해서 한국어로 말씀드리고, 다시 영어로 번역하겠습니다.
저는 특권층이 아닙니다. 저도 여러분과 같은 평범한 사람으로, 일하며 인터넷을 사용할 수 있는 직장을 가지고 있습니다. 이 인터넷 연결 덕분에 Lemmy나 Reddit 같은 웹사이트에 접속할 수 있습니다. 물론 TOR 같은 것도 사용합니다.
여러분이 저를 믿지 않으셔도 괜찮습니다. 하지만 제 나라에 대한 질문에는 최선을 다해 답변드리겠습니다.
이 글이 제가 이 계정을 마지막으로 사용하는 글이 될 것 같습니다. 저는 Lemmy에 다른 계정도 있지만, 익명을 지키고 싶어서 공개하지 않겠습니다.
Hello. I am an ordinary person from North Korea. You don’t need to believe or trust me. I have no gain from your trust or friendship. I just want to share an honest story about everyday life in North Korea.
Many of you may not have the opportunity to meet a North Korean person directly. That is understandable, as most of us have limited access to the internet. My English skills are not very good, so I will speak in Korean and translate it into English.
I am not part of the privileged class. I am an ordinary person like you, with a job that allows me to work and use the internet. Thanks to this internet connection, I can access websites like Lemmy and Reddit. Of course, I also use things like TOR.
It’s okay if you don’t believe me. However, I will do my best to answer any questions you have about my country.
I think this will be the last post I make with this account. I have other accounts on Lemmy, but I won’t disclose them to maintain my anonymity.
This post technically doesn’t go against out rules, aside from not having a question mark
So it does go against the rules and we know it’s likely a lie. There is no reason to keep it.
I prefer to exercise positive intent, but you do you negative Nellie.
Sure you can be skeptical in your mind but perhaps engage with the person and try to find more information and then make a judgement.
I’m curious as to what you find so unbelievable. The fact that someone from NK is on the internet or that they found Lemmy. I know for a fact if I was from NK I wouldn’t be able to resist the curiosity of using the internet, consequences be damned.
The thing is - North Korea isn’t known to have accessible internet. There is an intranet, for people very privileged - but that would be monitored and you wouldn’t be on Lemmy.
This is just extremely unlikely, and based on other comments, the Korean looks Google translated.
I’d really appreciate it if you could provide as much info as you can about how you’re accessing Lemmy.
Is it through a device you’re allowed to use or one you’re using illegally?
Is it a desktop, laptop, smartphone or tablet?
What operating system does it use? Windows, Linux, Android, iOS?
What method does it connect to the internet through? Dial up, wired broadband, wifi or through a mobile network?
don’t these questions pose risks to OP, why are you asking these questions?
Fair point. I’m a techie, that’s where most of my interest lies.
I mean, same - I wonder all the same things too, but I didn’t ask them because I assumed they would pose a risk 🤷♀️
Any way to verify?
Other than that: how is life in your close community?
how is life in your close community?
“Can’t complain”
Technically, not a lie.
I cant think of a way to do that would not comprimise me … Im sorry but you dont have to trust me . I am not here to promote political agenda !! I want to answer questions people can have about NK .
You speak the truth when you say NK is closed off but most people are happy about that . I enjoy living here .
ah, I mean more as in “the community close to you”. e.g. family, friends, neighbors etc
Life is good !! We live well . We have good jobs and family .
Yeah that sounds a bit… Off…
North Korea has so little food that literally north Koreans are smaller than south Koreans due to malnourishment.
From that, to go claim that you have good jobs and family… I’ll believe the family part, of course, bit good jobs? Nope, not buying it
OP also has internet access, so probably has a fairly well-off bubble. Assuming, again, this is legit. It’s well done if it’s not, though.
There is a NK internet, that China helped to build. Access and use of internet is increasing a lot in NK.
More like intranet. Same deal as Cuba.
I have not information about people in SK … There is poor people in NK . That is true . Many people in countryside who works in the field have little to eat is also true . People in cities have good lives and in the countryside not much !! I am not rich … I am not elite but I live in a city and I have good life .
Stupid fat American gets his info from Seth Rogen movie. Katy Perry very popular there though.
no don’t worry, you can’t criticize in the west.
Do the prisoners in the torture camps enjoy the fact that they got there because one of their relatives once accidentally spat in the general direction of an official they didn’t see?
Was there a particular reason you chose the instance you signed up with?
I like lemmy but lot of lemmy instaces have to aprove to sign in … The one I use dont so I can make a burner account very easy . I have another account I use … I dont talk about NK there .
I see many things here … I like a lot of communities .
What is your favorite food?
Are people who live in the countryside doing ok?
Are the laws very restrictive, do you have to always be careful what you say, or can you trust your neighbors, have people to discuss politics with?
I like chocolate !!
I dont like many things people here talk about NK … lies … and something is true about people in the countryside . A lot of them are very poor and live in poor health . It is normal to see people working using hands and hoes . A lot really old .
Yes it is good to being careful … I like my country … A lot of people have oppinnions that are diferent !! They cant say to everyone .
What is the strongest chicken you can get in North Korea? What country does it come from?
당신과 많은 다른 사람들은 저를 의심하고 있습니다. 당신의 이유를 이해하고 있으며 존중합니다. 한 번도 보지 못한 사람들을 믿지 마세요. 하지만 조선민주주의인민공화국에 대해 어떤 질문이 있다면 조선 사람의 관점에서 답변해 드리겠습니다.
오늘날 누구나 번역기를 사용할 수 있다는 것은 분명합니다. 그리고 북한의 언어학 훈련 자료가 부족함에도 불구하고 이상한 표현이 없다는 점은 이 글이 원래 영어나 남한어였음을 시사합니다.
수용소에서 고문당하는 사람들은 그곳에 있는 것이 어떤 기분일까요? 그들은 근친혼에 가난하게 자란 농부의 형제/어머니/사촌이기 때문입니다. 그들은 관리들을 일찍 만나지 못해 절하는 것을 잊었습니다. 아니면 당신과 당신의 가족이 이런 일을 하다 발각되어 그곳에 가게 된다면 어떤 기분일까요?
https://www.amnestyusa.org/blog/north-korea-stories-from-the-forgotten-prisons/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisons_in_North_Korea
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40269546
여기 있습니다, 동무. 당신의 말씀이 참으로 우스운군요. 당신의 말씀이 마치 번역기를 사용한 것 같아 보이는군요. 당신의 의도가 무엇인지 모르겠습니다만, 그것이 선의에서 나온 것은 아닌 것 같습니다. 우리 조국 북조선에서는 많은 나쁜 일들이 일어나고 있다는 것을 알고 있습니다만, 저는 인터넷에서 사람들과 대화하며 제 관점을 변호하려는 것이 아니라, 북조선에서 살아가는 평범한 사람의 관점을 제공하고자 합니다.
또한 당신의 편견도 이해할 수 없습니다. 만약 당신이 조금이라도 조선말을 알고 있다면, 저의 말투가 남조선 동무들의 말투와 다르다는 것을 알 수 있을 것입니다.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisons_in_North_Korea
https://www.hrnk.org/uploads/pdfs/HRNK_HiddenGulag2_Web_5-18.pdf
https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/asa24/001/2011/en/
http://www.ohchr.org/en/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=12923&LangID=E
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/n-korean-defectors-describe-brutal-abuse/
http://lib.ohchr.org/HRBodies/UPR/Documents/Session6/KP/NKHR-KBA_UPR_S06_2009.pdf
I could continue for literally days.
I do not understand what do you want … I want to answer questions !! I am not guilty for crimes of government and people of NK .
You’re pushing propaganda and ignoring the reality.
What happens to you if you send a selfie, or say “dear leader is a delusional autocrat”?
And what happens to your family if you get caught sending us a selfie?
“normal country”
Have you ever been to South korea?
No !!
We’ll that stinks. Do you get a chance to travel and vacation in north Korea a lot? Americans think you slave away at your “factories”
Yes !! We can travel . That is not the truth and I see it everywhere . We can travel in NK !! There is military stop in the road and they want to know where you will go … but you can travel !! They ask only .
This is pretty sus. How would you download the Tor client without internet access to begin with? Why are you not responding in any Korean either? It would be a way to prove you’re actually in the country as NK has a specific dialect compared to SK.
I was gonna say, I thought North Koreans are completely disconnected from the internet. They have government propaganda intranet.
모든 나라에는 선전이 있습니다. 하지만 당신이 "선전"이라는 용어를 너무 가볍게 사용하는 것 같습니다. 어디까지가 선전인지 구분하기는 쉽지 않습니다. 당신은 "인트라넷"에 접근할 수 없지만, 그것이 모두 정부 선전이라고 단정 짓고 계십니다. 그것은 사실이 아닙니다. 저는 여기에 앉아서 북한이 천국 같은 곳이라고 설득하려 하지 않겠습니다. 그렇지 않습니다. 이 나라에는 시급히 해결해야 할 많은 문제가 있습니다.
하지만 서구 공산주의자들이 묘사하는 것처럼 그렇지도 않고, 자유주의 언론이 묘사하는 것처럼 그렇지도 않습니다. 저는 많은 사람들이 북한에 대해 퍼뜨리는 거짓말을 좋아하지 않습니다. 하지만 그것은 서구 공산주의자들과 반공주의자들 모두에게 해당됩니다. 서구 공산주의자들은 북한이 모든 사람들이 행복하고 좋은 일자리를 가지며 식량 불안정에 시달리지 않는 지상낙원이라고 가장합니다. 반면 서구 반공주의자들은 북한이 폐쇄된 나라로, 모든 사람들이 불행하고 항상 굶주리며 가능한 한 빨리 탈출하고 싶어 한다고 가장합니다.
이 두 관점 모두 사실이 아닙니다.
You’re using loanwords from English, something only done in South Korea. Further, you’re using honorifics from SK. You also aren’t using any distinct NK spelling or vocabulary. This didn’t really help your case to be honest.
Notably, your comment has almost nothing to do with the comment you’re responding to. You don’t mention how you got Tor to magically break out of the intranet.
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여러분, 저는 영어로 된 질문에 왜 조선말로 답변해야 하는지 이해할 수 없습니다. 제가 어떻게 인터네트에 접속할 수 있는지, 그 이유를 알고 싶으시다면 제가 이전에 드린 답변들을 살펴보시기 바랍니다. 사실 저는 우리 나라 대부분의 사람들과는 달리 인터네트에 접속할 수 있습니다.
This thread is a troll farm post from the tankie triad
My gut tells me it’s unlikely but not impossible for this to be true. Is this more than just a suspicion of yours? There are far more effective ways of propaganda than fabricating posts and replies on lemmy.
여러분, 저는 조선민주주의인민공화국에서 온 사람입니다. 저는 여러분이 저를 의심하는 것이 당연하다고 생각합니다. 저는 여러분에게 어떤 증거도 보여드릴 수 없기 때문입니다. 우리 조선 사람들은 인터네트에 잘 나오지 않습니다. 하지만 저는 몇 가지 이유로 인터네트를 사용할 수 있는 사람 중 한 명입니다. 그 이유를 말씀드릴 수는 없습니다. 그것은 저의 실제 신분과 연결될 수 있기 때문입니다.
여러분이 저를 믿지 않는 것은 당연합니다. 하지만 저는 조선민주주의인민공화국에 살고 있는 사람의 입장에서만 질문에 답변드리고자 합니다. 저는 여러분의 생각을 강요하고 싶지 않습니다. 다만 제가 알고 있는 진실을 최대한 솔직하게 말씀드리고자 합니다.
The CCP ramped up propaganda after the inauguration on all social media.
This is just one front.
죄송합니다. 제가 이해한 바로는 당신의 게시물이 선전이라고 생각했던 것 같습니다. 하지만 그것은 잘못된 판단이었습니다. 당신은 중국 공산당이나 다른 어떤 공산당과도 관련이 없다고 말씀하셨습니다. 제가 그런 추측을 한 것은 부적절했습니다. 앞으로는 더 주의 깊게 귀 기울이고 상황을 정확히 파악하도록 하겠습니다. 다시 한번 죄송합니다.
Hi Davel, you can’t downvote reality away XD
How are you accessing the internet? My understanding was that there was only an extremely restricted intranet.
Do you use Red Star OS?
How did you learn English? Do you get taught it in school?
Yes !! Not every school in NK is teaching EN … Mine does. My EN is poor … I am learning .
A little help with your English if you don’t mind me saying, but when using punctuation you don’t put a space between the word and the punctuation. If you see how I wrote this, the comma is connected to the word as are the periods.
Other than that your English isn’t bad!
So you’re in school, but you’re also married?
No … I finish school already . I work now .
Do most north Koreans know that the world is not like what they are told?
No … I have acess to Internet and I see lot of things from the world here in lemmy and other sites … NK people trust the goverment a lot … The news is got from television radio and websites in NK intranet …
