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Catholic Health Initiatives-Iowa, a faith-based health care provider, is arguing in a medical malpractice case that the loss of an unborn child does not equate to the death of a “person” for the purpose of calculating damage awards.
In Iowa, court-ordered awards for noneconomic losses stemming from medical malpractice are capped at $250,000, except in cases that entail the “loss or impairment of mind or body.”
Attorneys for the CHI and MercyOne hospital are arguing the cap on damages still applies in cases where the “loss” is that of a fetus or unborn child.
CHI’s status as a nonprofit, tax-exempt entity is based on its stated mission of providing health services “in the spirit of the gospel.” The ethics guidelines it approved in 2018 state that the corporation is committed to “respect the sacredness of every human life from the moment of conception until death.”
“Faith-based health care provider” is one of the saddest euphemisms I’ve heard in a while.
A hypocrisy is you
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I don’t know why I’m still surprised by the hypocrisy at this point.
Well, that almost feels like hypocrisy, doesn’t it?
I say, let them rip what they sowed.
“Reap”, as in the grim reaper. You “reap” what you sow
No!, I say Rip, not reap.
Maybe get out of the healthcare industry if you’re not willing to provide care for patients’ health.
There is zero point in ever listening to what a conservative is saying. It changes based on whatever they think is beneficial to them in that exact moment. They’re like the demons from Frieren.
but will they make it right in the end by giving her a new fetus (from someone who died in a fire).
Why do y’all have a problem with this? Y’all think it’s just a clump of cells. A parasite.
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This is some primo dumbassery right here. Delicious, and stereotypically conservative: obliquely combative, willfully ignorant, or bless-your-heart special. Maybe even a nice mashup of the three…
We’re pointing out the hypocrisy. Did you really not understand that? It’s ridiculously obvious. Or are you just being a contrarian?
It’s hypocrisy in the name of saving a buck. Should we not want intellectual consistency from religious affiliates that seek to dictate the terms of our laws and our lives?
No! Everything is black and white and about which team I said I was on!
They claim a viable delivery was possible. How far along was it?
According to the article, she first was admitted at 34 weeks.
Abortion? It’s a person, you murderers!
We fucked up? Well it’s a fetus, not a person!
Well, the problem is that “Faith Based Institutions” are exposed to any amount of liability for anything at all. Obviously, these people were infallible and it was the sinful patients who were at fault.
Hey hey now. Dont be bashful. You and your ilk has screamed that it does. In your eyes, you killed a person. You can’t switch when its uncomfortable for you.
I would love to have the judge question them directly on the sanctity of human life and how it does not apply in this case but applies to abortion.
Hell, if we can get a hold of the plaintiff and ask them to lose the case so that we can build case law off of the ruling, we might be able to get the Catholic church on record as saying abortion should be legalized.
No, they’ll just say it’s only valid if they do it, like an annulment vs. a divorce
Annulment usually implies that the marriage was never consummated. Annulments exist outside of religion as well.
Them losing doesn’t guarantee anything if it isn’t well argued. They need to try to win and put up the best defence. If they fail then there will be a solid case to take it further if they throw it, higher courts will look at it and the arguments and see that it doesn’t apply.
Unfortunately, they can and will.
Just dig up their past statements. They’ve definitely said shit on abortion before, they’re religious they can’t help it.
Hypocrisy is a defining feature of Abrahamic religion.
religion has never been about truth or consistency, it’s a matter of power
Could this case set a precedent if they win? Will that allow abortion to become legal?
No, Trump would immediately sign an executive order even though its supposed to be beyond his powers and anyone with a lick of status will bend over like they were just struck with the rod of God.
No.
Like, it could be a brick in the road, but it won’t.
Tells you what this is really about.
Now, now, the Laws of Hammurabi clearly state what to do here…
22 “If people are fighting and hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman’s husband demands and the court allows. 23 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.
So you will note that punishment is only given out as the woman is harmed, as this is a life. Miscarriage shmishcarriage, it’s not a life yet so no harm done, no punishment given.
It’s an open and shut case, Your Honour. The husband can demand all he wants but no life was harmed here, no eyes, no teeth, the $250,000 cap applies as “the court allows”.
Numbers 11.
Abortion is only wrong when it’s a woman’s choice.
I mean they cover up child rape . Totally on brand for them and most religious organizations