I posted the following: "I am trying to make a shower gel that has a scent but is not toxic to either humans or aquatic life. And I have a hard time finding anything for the latter. Essential oils and derivatives? Nope. Synthetic ones? Nothing. I could go the unscented route, but it’s going to be hard to sell. So, considering that most of you are better informed about this topic, is there a specific ingredient that I can use for a rose fragrance that’s truly non toxic? Thanks "

On fragrange, zerowaste and sustainability. The post got deleted by mods in a manner of minutes. What the hell is going on there? I am going to stay here for much longer since that place is turning very weird. Also, can anyone here actually help me find a fragrance ingredient that won’t kill aquatic life when poured down the drain? Thank you in advance

  • Jo Miran
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    Would a drop of Bulgarian rose oil not work?

    EDIT: By this I mean the legitimate stuff made by hand in the countryside, not the chemically extracted stuff. It is extremely strong.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      22 months ago

      I am very fond of the Bulgarian oil. I actually have a rose garden filled with damask roses myself. But it seems that if poured in water it can damage the plants and fishes… I wasn’t even aware of it until very recently.

  • Rose
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    The fact that the larger the subreddits get more picky they are about posts isn’t a new problem, but it has apparently gotten a lot worse in last few years. Apparently a lot of subreddits now have automoderator rules that just nuke posts based on karma or “contributor quality”, whatever the hell that means.

    • @[email protected]
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      But at the same time, some of the default subs’ most prolific posts are bot reposts ad infinitum. Those never seem to get nuked even though it’s crystal clear they’re bot accounts…

    • @[email protected]OP
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      52 months ago

      Seriously, things have gotten so bad there , the website is unrecognizable from years ago… I am sorry you didn’t have the platform to vent when needed. Hopefully here it will be better.

          • @[email protected]
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            Yes. There are hooks that show what APIs and apps the data uses as a pathway. My guess is that the mods have nothing to do with the content being removed. It is the upload verification process. I’m not going to recommend going back but posting from a browser will verify whether this is the problem.

        • @[email protected]OP
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          12 months ago

          Yeah, there’s the whole ai thing. I don’t know, I got the (clearly wrong) idea that a dedicated sub may have dedicated specialists…

  • @[email protected]
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    52 months ago

    They may have a rule to delete any mention of essential oils automatically. Or they deleted due to the criticism of it. Hard to know which way any sub might swing.

  • @[email protected]
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    82 months ago

    I was making the most innocuous comments in Reddit and getting banned. I finally gave up and here I am. #RedditRefugee

  • @[email protected]
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    42 months ago

    Aleppo soap? It’s made of olive oil and lye. As simple as it gets. Probably not good for aquatic life but better than most I would belive. It’s got a distinctive scent, at first I didn’t like it but it grows in you. Done wonders for my hair and skin.

  • @[email protected]
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    562 months ago

    Given the trend of recent posts in here. I’m going to guess that the word “toxic” triggered the automod.

  • Nicht BurningTurtle
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    Sadly any substances related to showering are percieved as dangerous by the stereotypical reddit mod. :D

  • @[email protected]
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    Loving the reddit hate train here but to answer your question, there doesn’t appear to be any non aqua toxic rose fragrances. Even rose water can be aqua toxic. This is due to the fact that geraniol (the compound primarily responsible for a roses’ scent) is acutely toxic to aquatic life. Have you considered other light, floral scents OP?

    • @[email protected]
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      222 months ago

      30 years ago I expected this, but thought it was going to be sexier.

      The future fucking blows.

      • Thassodar
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        52 months ago

        The future fucking blows.

        Based on your comment that’s exactly what it’s not doing lol

  • @[email protected]
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    62 months ago

    I am pretty sure your best bet to get something that is roses scented but is non-toxic would be creating a tincture vegetable glycerin with roses. Take dried rose pedals and let them sit in the sun for 4-6 weeks immersed in vegetable glycerin which should impart roses smells and other rose components into the vegetable glycerin. I haven’t done it myself but it is suppose to do some extractions of the compounds.

    You will be extracting the essential oils and all other compounds from the rose pedals into the glycerin but in lower concentrations than a pure essential oil. (Also depending on the essential oil will have a broader range of compounds depending on how they made it)