Nope.
Don’t like that.
I still use a dumb TV, and I will for as long as possible. I’ll never buy a new TV ever again. only used from Facebook. most stuff I only watch on my computer anyways.
I make my smart TVs dumb. No internet connectivity.
That is my solution as well for now. I bet TVs will start to come with cellular chips soon though.
Does anyone make a living room sized Faraday cage?
They’ll have to pay for the cellular connection themselves because I’m not gonna enter my wifi password into the tv lol. Been using a pc hooked up to the screen for ages. Screw “smart tv” features, slow and inconvenient as hell.
The inconvenience creared by their greed. You buy a tv, a PC, internet and a netflix sub but you cant watch full (shite) resolution unless you are in a native app.
Piracy is the way forward.
Yeah that part blows ass. My solution for now is an appletv. They at least don’t shove ads down your throat and their main business models are not based on collecting user data for advertising or databroker purposes (looking at you, google).
I have an lg tv that has never seen the internet. It runs on a shield with kodi. With that being said, fuck shield and their ads
Shield has ads built in!? Out of the cart it goes.
Cool one more reason I’ll never connect my display to the internet.
umm guys this isn’t a news article, it’s a Black Mirror episode
Great, now they are going to know how aroused I am when watching “Golden Girls” reruns.
Who doesnt get a raging rock hard at the sight of Bea Arthur.
LG actually has that data now
If it gets me Bea Arthurs nudes then its a sacrifice i’m willing to make.
NSFW but here you go
i knew it what it was before i even clicked the spoiler, lol.
If they ever make this a standard feature in all TVs and make it where I can’t just disconnect it from the internet, I will be using old TVs for the rest of my life.
My TV is there to display a visual output. It does not and should not do anything else.
Luckily digital signboards will always be an option to replace TVs with if the situation becomes truly dire. The sorts of no-frills displays corporations buy to display whatever media they want in store.
Might not come with sound, but you can pick up a cheap sound bar and it will still be better than whatever cheap speakers commercial TVs try to cram in there.
As long as my 1080p plasma tv works, there’s no need to upgrade. Going 4K would also mean I would have to upgrade my HTPC hardware, because that old APU probably can’t handle resolutions like that.
In the meantime though, I’ll just keep on watching online videos in my living room without ads or interruptions. It’s been great even though all of this hardware is cheap and ancient.
But that’s the thing: televisions are complex and can be very difficult to repair, so what do you do when you can’t buy a dumb replacement anymore? I have the same issue with cars. I would like to replace ours with an EV, but they are a privacy nightmare whereas my car’s peak technology is FM radio.
I was thinking earlier today about how much technology waste there is because old stuff is superseded so quickly. Maybe in future we will treasure the tech we had before it all went to shit.
Kit cars have been around for ages, and Framework offers DIY laptops. I think we should have kit displays as well. Surely, someone has already made something like that with a raspberry or something.
Yeah, hopefully we can just buy cheap panels and put it together how we want. If that also opened up options for hackers to build entirely new display applications, or in new ways, that would be the dream.
The future is great!
You know back in the day they were like easily half a dozen custom Android ROMs for any given phone. I’m pretty sure that there’s still a diversity of ROMs available.
Why is this not the case with televisions?
Because there’s no easy way to install it. TVs don’t usually have a data transfer usb-c port.
TVs generally don’t come with unlocked bootloaders. That shit is locked down big time.
Continue to never buy LG products again?
Gotcha. The advertising works, i guess…maybe not how they wanted to, though lol
Oh, they do have products without all that shit. They offer large screen monitors that are basically their TVs without the “smart” part.
i wager it has all the TV stuff gutted out, including the tuner… Which admittedly is only a problem if you use OTA and not cable.
They have a bunch of display ports and HDMIs. You can buy the tuner you need (SAT, OTA, cable, other streamer), or use a PC&Linux and watch YT add-free.
Why would a TV need to know about addition?
Because of f-ed up autocorrect, that’s why.
My next TV will be either a business/signage monitor or a computer monitor.
At least something without any connection outside. No network, no anything.
At most something like a Chromecast or similar.“I dont want it to have anything, except google, the biggest invader of privacy there is” :p
You can still set up your own HTPC in your living room and configure it yourself.
And there are more solutions like from Apple (but they absolutely fucking track you as well) or other streaming box/stick solutions I am not aware of.
Unsure how good an Nvidia Shield is in regards to privacy. Your best bet for privacy is probably to just build your own solution on Linux.Nvidia is huge on producing AI and is certainly data-hungry. Without actually knowing, I would bet it’s about as bad as anything else. Since all your data is passing directly through their servers it’s trivial for them to do whatever they want with it.
Verification can
Rather have a TV from 1999. Hope LG goes under.
Nahhh that’s insane. A recent 1440p/144+hz monitor is a fantastic choice and it doesn’t know how to connect to the internet.
A TV used to be clearly different from a computer monitor. Hopefully monitors resist this for longer but no reason to think this can’t happen there.
And you are correct as there are now Samsung and LG smart monitors. It won’t be long before all monitors are smart.
BOOOOOO
For now, most of the ad bullshit can be turned off. Though it turned back on after the latest software update and forced me to spend another 10 minutes digging through the horrendous settings menu.
“Gee, boss. Says here 87% of viewers were angry with the TV for spying on them.”
LG TVs will soon leverage an AI model built for showing advertisements that more closely align with viewers’ personal beliefs and emotions. The company plans to incorporate a partner company’s AI tech into its TV software in order to interpret psychological factors impacting a viewer, such as personal interests, personality traits, and lifestyle choices. The aim is to show LG webOS users ads that will emotionally impact them.
“As viewers engage with content, ZenVision’s understanding of a consumer grows deeper, and our… segmentation continually evolves to optimize predictions,” the ZenVision website says.
Going beyond ads, if you start training AIs on human preference based on mass-harvested emotional data, I imagine that you can optimize output quite considerably. Like, say I have facial recognition being converted to emotional response data, maybe something like smartwatch pulse data, some other stuff, and I go train an AI to try to produce a given emotional output in a viewer. I bet that they can do a pretty good job of that. Like, maybe how to piss people off at a target in political campaigns, build an AI that has a potent ability to emotionally-manipulate and flirt with humans, or ensure that interest doesn’t waver in television content by determining at what points people have less interest.
