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Dr. Lisa Anderson, 58, was born in Pennsylvania and is a U.S. citizen.
A doctor born in the United States says she received an email from federal immigration authorities demanding that she leave the country immediately.
Lisa Anderson, a physician from Cromwell, Connecticut, told NBC Connecticut on Wednesday that she recently received a letter from the Department of Homeland Security telling her, “It is time for you to leave the United States."
Immigration authorities have been pushing noncitizens to leave of their own volition, or “self-deport,” as the number of deportations remains at similar levels to last year.
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This also happened to a practicing immigration lawyer: https://bsky.app/profile/nicolemicheroni.bsky.social/post/3lmpvej6vn22t
Another one?
Must be a “coincidence”
thats why scientists and MDs are the first to flee a dictatorship before shit hits the fan, and people were complaining they should stay and fight. they dint go to school and act like country bumpkins.
I would like to see these pathetic Nazis leave the country.
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There’s more than one way to leave a country.
North, South, East, West, or down.
Up
That’s more charitable than I’d like to be.
No one said what condition they’d be leaving in.
send them all to antartica to see how thier rugged individualism and survival strategies help them. specifically the interior.
Leave how?
Can a trebuchet be the vehicle of choice?
Woodchipper
Bullseye!
The famous quote about Nazis, “First they came for…” is being realized at intense pacing.
Fuck fascists and their garbage Nazi AI injection into government systems. All Nazis are garbage and the exception to the rule about acceptance and inclusion. GTFO!
Death to Nazis!
If this is against mods policy go ahead and delete but… seriously.
Due process to Nazis.
It’s just my opinion and I don’t advocate violence, but for me, “due process For Nazis”=pulling back the hammer.
I think that’s what he was saying, but either way…
Nah fuck that
That is an excellent platform.
intense pacing? it’s a gd speedrun of it is what it is
The difference between today’s Republican Party and the Nazi Party is just temporal and geographical. Same ethics.
“ethics”
With an exotic name like Lisa Anderson (I’m sorry, did I pronounce that right?) She’s kind of asking for trouble like this.
They’re pushing the boundaries, to see what they can get away with.
I’m just joking.
They can get away with anything.
They scraped her social media, deemed it to have “Improper Attitude,” and targeted her. Besides, the only reason she’s not the kitchen, not making sammiches where she belongs, is because of AA/DEI, right guyz?!!!
Edit: I looked her up, she’s an OB/GYNO. No wonder. This is intentional, not a mistake.
Remember when they thought the covid shot was a way to keep track of you. Why don’t they care all of a sudden?
Clearly the daughter of the guy in The Matrix which is not real murica!
If I received a message like this, I would buy a plane ticket to a safe country and would apply for asylum immediately, and I would use the letter as a basis for the asylum application. It seems like a really strong basis for the application.
Define safe here, the only places I can think are Australia or New Zealand. The rest of the world is heavily messed up and falling head over hills for right wing sirens.
Australian here, we aren’t always fantastic either. NZ seems good, but they’ve had some weird shit going on from time to time as well. I’d probably go with them though.
Which one has the giant spiders the size of your head? I choose the other place.
The giant spiders are Australian. I mean, it’s Australia, everything has two health bars. That said, there is a harmless but creepy-crawly-looking giant grasshopper-looking thing called a giant wētā that - like actual grasshoppers - likes to live in and lay its’ eggs in people’s backyards. Here, educate yourself!
If you hate bugs, I’d recommend heading to South America (make sure to check local political stability of each of the nations) and staying in a city, or heading to northern Canada and buying a tiny shack to ride this all out away from everyone else. Japan is a possibility but… fucking murder hornets. Literally in Tokyo suburbs.
Bruh. I’m looking to generally reduce my stress. Do you have pictures of cats that look like their owners?
Fair enough, but if you’re on the internet post-2017 looking to reduce your stress, you’re in the wrong parts of the internet. Find a forum that’s been around since well before then on your hobbies (niche hobbies like old fandoms tend to have the best results), other than that social media killed the internet.
I dunno, those giant spiders might prove a good deterrent should the likes of the not so dapper Don decide to come take the place by force.
So long as they don’t put flies in my ice cream, I think we can forge a lasting peace with the spiders
Both, but the ones in NZ aren’t poisonous, at least.
So you are alive when they start to eat you…
Fortunately, no. But they will probably eat the harmless giant grasshopper-things (wela) that also live in New Zealand backyards.
There’s also giant crickets in Africa, and several giant beetles in Japan. I swear I don’t remember where I learned all this, I’ve never even been to New Zealand or Australia or any of the other places (aside from South America).
So the two safest places left on earth also both have giant ass spiders where half will kill your ass and the other half will just traumatize you. Got it 🫠
There’s this island full of penguins…
Canada’s doing ok. There’s a 75% chance that the next prime minister will be liberal, but our conservatives are also less crazy than Trump. Most Canadians hate Trump right now, so both sides are pretty much required to oppose Trump.
The US might invade us, but that’s true for a bunch of countries right now.
And hopefully we are all in agreement to vote ~smol pp~ into retirement.
I don’t like all of ~smol pp~'s policies, but at least they tell it like it is, you know? After ~big pp~'s growing scandal and flaccid campaign promises, I just want someone who has the stamina to keep this country erect for at least the next 3 years.
It is time for you to leave the United States.
Well, considering the political climate I can’t really argue with that.
I better get my documents in order. Like yesterday
I have an idea
But I’m not sure yet whether a government telling a citizen to GTFO NAO is enough persecution and threat to warrant giving refug— doctor, you say? Let’s show you to some housing for while you sit the re-cert exam.
Man the Canadian side of the falls is super nice, too. They have it all built out, Id deport there if given the option. I’m definitely going to ride the purple moose this time, though, and no, that’s not code for heroin.
Get guns. Go sit with these women who are being attacked. Wait for the gestapo. Act.
You first, Keyboard Warrior.
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I’m Canadian, you idiot.
This makes your initial statement even more stupid 😂😂😂. So you’re telling Americans what to do while sitting behind your keyboard.
Grow the fuck up.
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If a non-personal email — such as an American citizen contact — was provided by the alien, notices may have been sent to unintended recipients, It does make me concerned there’re a lot more people out there like me who probably also thought this was spam, who probably didn’t realize, ‘I have a problem,’
Having a mistake in this situation makes it less clear whether other messages are legitimate or not, so we might see more cases like those described around https://www.yahoo.com/news/black-people-receiving-racist-text-012451742.html
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It can be hard to leave one’s family behind.
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Well sure, but your family may not wish to come with you. They might have a whole life in the united states they are unwilling to leave behind.
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It isn’t politics, it’s GOP and fascist politics that ruined the US
That’s kids/adults, but consider instead 4 close siblings in their 30s with jobs, and they have to look after their aging parents.
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And yet MAGA will wonder out loud why their doctors’ appointment wait times are getting longer and longer.
TRANS PEOPLE AND IMMIGRANTS ARE MAKING YOUR DOCTOR’S APPOINTMENTS TAKE LONGER TO SCHEDULE
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No they won’t, they’ll just blame the Democrats.
many EU countries need MDs(probably best if your a speciality, and anuerosurgeon) they need to reverse the brain drain.
What does the Hippocratic oath have to do with staying in the United States or leaving?
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Doesn’t the Hippocratic oath basically just say “Do no harm”? I don’t think you’re morally obligated to work.
That’s a very broad reading of it. Most doctors would feel free to practise medicine elsewhere if politically targeted.
I mean, you’re both kind of right. I’m no doctor but it seems like something doctors (good doctors, anyway) would seriously consider in regards to this. On the one hand, they’re leaving people to the wolves. On the other, there is nothing you can do in the US if it gets that far that will outweigh the good you can do elsewhere. But then, is that actually true? This isn’t the literal same as WWII, it’s just extremely similar, a pattern we are able to recognize this time around because it happened before and was well-documented. It’s possible that this time, leaving would in fact cause more harm than good. But if you have a family… Well, I can’t blame you for protecting your own kids over your patients and their kids, as long as you don’t throw someone else under the bus.
It’s complicated. When there’s that many variables, all you can do is trust your gut. No one can predict the future that well, if at all.
In principle, yeah, but in practice all countries require re-qualification for doctors with diplomas obtained overseas. Medicine is one of the jobs that are hardest to move across national borders
That’s true, but the demand is still there, and for someone who already went through all the work of getting a PhD getting recertified isn’t that big of a deal comparatively.
yea, because MD schools might not be equivalent to those in UK/CANADA, AND USA. i heard its very hard to become a MD as an immigrant even if you have a license already, because they have those qualifications that might be above where you got your license from.
i think its different for a UK/CANADA doctor trying to become one in the US though. its very convoluted and overlycomplicated.
The underlying unsaid context: “White American with White Name who never has been outside the country told to self-deport”. Yes, WHITE AMERICA it could happen to YOU!
White people have never been exempt. One of my few criticisms of the BLM movement was that they should have been more inclusive.
So you’re an ‘All lives matter’ kinda person?
Unironically, BLM should have grabbed ALM before the white supremacists did. It would have taken some of the wind out of their sails. There’s some images of Black protesters holding signs of white kids who got killed by cops. Black people have a higher rate of police brutality then white people do, but Native Americans have an even higher rate. Not to mention that cops seem to go immediately to guns when dealing with epileptic shock and seizures victims. Also see Women and Queer people.
Also autistic folks, I’ve gotten lucky that my meltdowns generally make me less vulnerable but there have been folks who aren’t to lucky. A good recent example was that kid up in Idaho.
Unironically the suffragettes should have campaigned for all people being allowed to vote.
Unironically, the LGBTQ community should have campaigned for all marriages to be legal.
BLM wasn’t ALM because the movement was based on the horrendous rates of police violence and murder their communities have suffered. Yes, all lives do matter, but the point of the protest was how much black lives don’t matter in the US.
There’s also other minority groups. I’m not sure you read my whole post, because I specifically mentioned Native Americans having an even higher rate of police brutality.
Unironically, the LGBTQ community should have campaigned for all marriages to be legal.
Isn’t that what they did? At least between consenting adults.
Also, there was an effort within the Women’s suffrage movement to continue and get African Americans the right to vote. Martin Luther King Jr. also tried to continue to promote Communism. It’s almost like if you’re proven to be successful at leading real change, you get targeted. You’re not allowed to change the world twice.
Isn’t that what they did? At least between consenting adults.
Technically, yes. And for a time, it was good.
Then Roe vs. Wade was overturned for no good reason and Trump stole the election last year. The (federal) laws towards gay/lesbian(/etc?) marriage hasn’t changed afaik, but it would surprise me if that is how it is in practice under Teflon Don.
Not bashing anyone, does LGBTQ as an acronym even matter as a whole for marriages as much as for self-expression and mental health? Not in a “LGBTQ is lesser” way, but think about it logically. Asexuals (well, aromantic asexuals) aren’t getting married, they don’t want to. Getting married as transgender should absolutely be legal and legitimate, it’s just that in a marriage, you’re either male or female or (in rare cases) hermaphroditic in a biological, body-focused sense, so your marriage can be gay or lesbian or straight but whether you started out as the gender you currently are should be irrelevant to marriage status as long as the government acknowledges you are your current gender regardless of if you changed your gender.
If you want to normalize this stuff, the best way to do it is to at least recognize nuance and definitions. There are edge cases, those can and should be considered legal too, but as a single asexual person with opinions that contradict both partisan political extremes, if it looks like a fashion statement instead of a call for peace or a demand for true equality, you’re probably doing it wrong.
Of course, now there are bigger issues. Probably better to force Trump off his throne and then never let up the pressure on improving from there.
There’s an element of racial injustice that needed to be highlighted by BLM so I don’t know if including white victims of police brutality is the right approach but broadening to include other minorities would have helped continue their momentum and potentially catalyzed more meaningful change. Eventually challenging police brutality as a whole may have been an option but ignoring or underplaying racial inequality early on would have been essentially ignoring the reality of the situation.
Exactly. The “All lives matter” sounds nice to anyone unfamiliar with the movement but it is designed to downplay racial injustice.
What about “Our Lives Matter Too” (OTM2)? You’re trying to fight oppression, appealing to empathy should have been the first resort. I know it feels good to prove being black or dark-skinned doesn’t mean you need help, I’ve been there because I have autism and have encountered ableism from people who are supposed to be doctors or nurses, I’m just saying that once the few white people in the civil rights movement left, it lost steam because the opponent was more willing to get other people’s assistance (in bad ways, but they still succeeded and that should have been countered).
For what it’s worth, if a cop pointed a gun at a kid, I’d die to put myself between them before I let him pull the trigger, and if I would be too late, I’d f-ing kill the bastard. Fortunately, I’ve never met a cop willing to do that. I honestly hate it that your country has cops who are willing to do that in the open.
Once BLM moved toward economic injustice it would have been shut down like MLK was.
It’s a class war now more than ever, the rich people know they can get more nazi lackeys if they call it a race war though.
BLM was/is also hostile to other marginalized groups like the LGBTQ; a BLM group literally blocked my city’s Pride parade in the middle of it. Aren’t we protesting the same thing? So hypocritical and tone deaf.
A group has. Not all the groups.
I’m not really equipped to talk at length on this topic, but luckily, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar has
But she gets to laugh it off, which is exactly what she’s doing.
She’s not laughing it off. She’s worried and carrying her passport on her at all times.
This is what? 3rd or 4th time we’ve heard about this happening? Crazy.
Time to muddy the waters. Everyone who is an immigrant (legal or illegal) when asked for an email address, find an email address of an executive at a large corporation and use that.
The last two I read weren’t immigrants, they are born in the U.S. with social security numbers and birth certificates. Well I’m assuming this one has those, being that she’s born and is a doctor here. Practicing doctors require background checks
honest question: did you respond to the wrong person?
No, their reply made perfect sense. We could just use repub official emails for EVERYBODY, not just immigrants, in order to mess up the system scraping this information for everybody and not just immigrants.
If they did, this is a f-ing miracle. Imma do it next time I sign up for a service that doesn’t require confirmation emails to change the address (they’re rare but there’s a few, lemmy/kbin instances are sometimes among them).
