Dr. Lisa Anderson, 58, was born in Pennsylvania and is a U.S. citizen.
A doctor born in the United States says she received an email from federal immigration authorities demanding that she leave the country immediately.
Lisa Anderson, a physician from Cromwell, Connecticut, told NBC Connecticut on Wednesday that she recently received a letter from the Department of Homeland Security telling her, “It is time for you to leave the United States."
Immigration authorities have been pushing noncitizens to leave of their own volition, or “self-deport,” as the number of deportations remains at similar levels to last year.
What’s as bizarre as anything else about this is that they are sending these to people via email. Like she says, most people will just think it’s spam. What official US government organization has ever before sent official legal stuff via email? None. Until now.
The idea that if you don’t see an email threatening to arrest or deport you, because it was filtered as spam or looks like spam or was sent to an old email you don’t even use anymore or any number of things related to email being an unreliable way to contact someone, is scary.
I also read somewhere that some govt agency (don’t recall which, I think it was a health agency?) would now be posting all official notices on X instead of on their own official website!!!
It sets up a situation where anyone could misrepresent the government and send these types of emails out to harass people.
Pretty sure that’s the point
I also read somewhere that some govt agency (don’t recall which, I think it was a health agency?)
Social Security Administration
I know a lot of terrible things are going on but it’s stuff like this that also eats at my brain. It’s so incredibly stupid, pointless and is petty the right word?
gets old ppl on X and into the fascist disinfo pipelines is my guess as to why
Or it gets old people screwed out of their Social Security because the new rules and guidelines to continue receiving payments was posted on X, and they don’t have an X account because they are 80 fucking years old and don’t use the internet.
Exactly.
a little column a, a little column b
The underlying unsaid context: “White American with White Name who never has been outside the country told to self-deport”. Yes, WHITE AMERICA it could happen to YOU!
But she gets to laugh it off, which is exactly what she’s doing.
She’s not laughing it off. She’s worried and carrying her passport on her at all times.
White people have never been exempt. One of my few criticisms of the BLM movement was that they should have been more inclusive.
So you’re an ‘All lives matter’ kinda person?
Unironically, BLM should have grabbed ALM before the white supremacists did. It would have taken some of the wind out of their sails. There’s some images of Black protesters holding signs of white kids who got killed by cops. Black people have a higher rate of police brutality then white people do, but Native Americans have an even higher rate. Not to mention that cops seem to go immediately to guns when dealing with epileptic shock and seizures victims. Also see Women and Queer people.
Also autistic folks, I’ve gotten lucky that my meltdowns generally make me less vulnerable but there have been folks who aren’t to lucky. A good recent example was that kid up in Idaho.
BLM was/is also hostile to other marginalized groups like the LGBTQ; a BLM group literally blocked my city’s Pride parade in the middle of it. Aren’t we protesting the same thing? So hypocritical and tone deaf.
A group has. Not all the groups.
I’m not really equipped to talk at length on this topic, but luckily, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar has
There’s an element of racial injustice that needed to be highlighted by BLM so I don’t know if including white victims of police brutality is the right approach but broadening to include other minorities would have helped continue their momentum and potentially catalyzed more meaningful change. Eventually challenging police brutality as a whole may have been an option but ignoring or underplaying racial inequality early on would have been essentially ignoring the reality of the situation.
Exactly. The “All lives matter” sounds nice to anyone unfamiliar with the movement but it is designed to downplay racial injustice.
What about “Our Lives Matter Too” (OTM2)? You’re trying to fight oppression, appealing to empathy should have been the first resort. I know it feels good to prove being black or dark-skinned doesn’t mean you need help, I’ve been there because I have autism and have encountered ableism from people who are supposed to be doctors or nurses, I’m just saying that once the few white people in the civil rights movement left, it lost steam because the opponent was more willing to get other people’s assistance (in bad ways, but they still succeeded and that should have been countered).
For what it’s worth, if a cop pointed a gun at a kid, I’d die to put myself between them before I let him pull the trigger, and if I would be too late, I’d f-ing kill the bastard. Fortunately, I’ve never met a cop willing to do that. I honestly hate it that your country has cops who are willing to do that in the open.
Once BLM moved toward economic injustice it would have been shut down like MLK was.
It’s a class war now more than ever, the rich people know they can get more nazi lackeys if they call it a race war though.
Unironically the suffragettes should have campaigned for all people being allowed to vote.
Unironically, the LGBTQ community should have campaigned for all marriages to be legal.
BLM wasn’t ALM because the movement was based on the horrendous rates of police violence and murder their communities have suffered. Yes, all lives do matter, but the point of the protest was how much black lives don’t matter in the US.
There’s also other minority groups. I’m not sure you read my whole post, because I specifically mentioned Native Americans having an even higher rate of police brutality.
Unironically, the LGBTQ community should have campaigned for all marriages to be legal.
Isn’t that what they did? At least between consenting adults.
Also, there was an effort within the Women’s suffrage movement to continue and get African Americans the right to vote. Martin Luther King Jr. also tried to continue to promote Communism. It’s almost like if you’re proven to be successful at leading real change, you get targeted. You’re not allowed to change the world twice.
Isn’t that what they did? At least between consenting adults.
Technically, yes. And for a time, it was good.
Then Roe vs. Wade was overturned for no good reason and Trump stole the election last year. The (federal) laws towards gay/lesbian(/etc?) marriage hasn’t changed afaik, but it would surprise me if that is how it is in practice under Teflon Don.
Not bashing anyone, does LGBTQ as an acronym even matter as a whole for marriages as much as for self-expression and mental health? Not in a “LGBTQ is lesser” way, but think about it logically. Asexuals (well, aromantic asexuals) aren’t getting married, they don’t want to. Getting married as transgender should absolutely be legal and legitimate, it’s just that in a marriage, you’re either male or female or (in rare cases) hermaphroditic in a biological, body-focused sense, so your marriage can be gay or lesbian or straight but whether you started out as the gender you currently are should be irrelevant to marriage status as long as the government acknowledges you are your current gender regardless of if you changed your gender.
If you want to normalize this stuff, the best way to do it is to at least recognize nuance and definitions. There are edge cases, those can and should be considered legal too, but as a single asexual person with opinions that contradict both partisan political extremes, if it looks like a fashion statement instead of a call for peace or a demand for true equality, you’re probably doing it wrong.
Of course, now there are bigger issues. Probably better to force Trump off his throne and then never let up the pressure on improving from there.
Get guns. Go sit with these women who are being attacked. Wait for the gestapo. Act.
You first, Keyboard Warrior.
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I’m Canadian, you idiot.
This makes your initial statement even more stupid 😂😂😂. So you’re telling Americans what to do while sitting behind your keyboard.
Grow the fuck up.
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I would like to see these pathetic Nazis leave the country.
That’s more charitable than I’d like to be.
No one said what condition they’d be leaving in.
Leave how?
Can a trebuchet be the vehicle of choice?
Woodchipper
Bullseye!
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There’s more than one way to leave a country.
North, South, East, West, or down.
Up
send them all to antartica to see how thier rugged individualism and survival strategies help them. specifically the interior.
I wonder what her political views are?
thats why scientists and MDs are the first to flee a dictatorship before shit hits the fan, and people were complaining they should stay and fight. they dint go to school and act like country bumpkins.
I’m wondering what her specialty is, it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s something the administration wants to ban. Of course, that’s pure supposition since it’s not listed in the article, but an effective way to ban women’s health and affirming care would be to remove those that provide that care.
I’m curious too. I would google her, but the number of Dr Lisa Andersons from Pennsylvania is probably fairly significant. It’s not a small state or anything.
I believe it says she’s in Cromwell, Connecticut now. Though originally from PA.
The famous quote about Nazis, “First they came for…” is being realized at intense pacing.
Fuck fascists and their garbage Nazi AI injection into government systems. All Nazis are garbage and the exception to the rule about acceptance and inclusion. GTFO!
Death to Nazis!
If this is against mods policy go ahead and delete but… seriously.
Nah fuck that
That is an excellent platform.
Due process to Nazis.
It’s just my opinion and I don’t advocate violence, but for me, “due process For Nazis”=pulling back the hammer.
I think that’s what he was saying, but either way…
intense pacing? it’s a gd speedrun of it is what it is
The difference between today’s Republican Party and the Nazi Party is just temporal and geographical. Same ethics.
“ethics”
Chances are those idiots are just using a shitty LLM to parse through folders of documents and extract names, then templatize them into a form email without any validation. She could have been listed as a physician for some other person and her name showed up on some random medical document and the dumb system grabber her that way.
They’re too dumb to even comprehend what they are doing, they’re using AI like it’s canon all over the place.
This is actually great.
I mean, I know this is going to be a cynical take, but I have nothing left but cynicism towards my country.
If the administration starts persecuting white Americans, that’s far more likely to rile up middle-class, liberal America than if people with “exotic” names like 'Garcia" get deported. It sucks but it’s true, our country is built on a foundation of mildly xenophobic middle-class liberals who don’t really care what happens politically until they feel personally threatened, and at this point I really, really want them to feel the danger so there’s some chance of recovering this tragic slide back into the fucking dark-ages.
If the administration starts persecuting white Americans, that’s far more likely to rile up middle-class
Does this matter at this point? What are middle class Americans going to do about it? Vote?
“Liberal America” isn’t a group of people in the abstract, these are our judges, our lawyers, our civil servants and our accountants and our food drivers. There is great power in that, which is why so many people desperate to hold onto their wealth for so long have worked so hard to make us all think that kind of power isn’t as good as money or fame. When it’s far, far more powerful.
Someone wrote a book about it once, spawned a few big movements. Might have heard of it.
Maybe it will be midterm votes, maybe it will be marches and protests, maybe it will be full on riots. Do not underestimate what happens when enough people start to worry about their safety, security and where their next meal will come from.
Someone wrote a book about it once, spawned a few big movements. Might have heard of it.
A few people wrote a few books, certainly.
Maybe it will be midterm votes, maybe it will be marches and protests, maybe it will be full on riots.
I mean, you’re describing the 2008 to 2016 arc for liberal Democrats. The problem is that eight years of voting, marching, protesting, and - ultimately - rioting only ever seemed to move Democrats to the right.
By the time Hillary’s failed 2008 bid had been resurrected, she was more hawkish than the “Oops, sorry, but I’m not sorry” candidate that lost to Obama eight years earlier. She was worse on civil rights. She was worse on public health care and education. She was worse on policing and immigration and trade and employment. She was worse on environmentalism. And she wasn’t alone.
All because the degree of lobbying and corporate media had amplified itself, to the point at which DC Dems were absolutely deafened by it.
I don’t see any of that changing. If anything, I see “Liberal America” increasingly tainted by the fascist fill inundating DC. More lay people are convinced MS-13 is around every corner and China is an existential threat to American Freedom^™. More media is plugging a liberalized version of libertarian capitalism, with privatized subscriptions for every public service. More revanchists popping up in liberal circles saying how Transgenderism is an attack on women’s rights and being a celebrity billionaire is the highest goal of any true feminist.
It’s fucking bleak out there
TIL that “Garcia” is an “exotic” name!
Just saying it out loud could get ICE knocking on your door.
This is what? 3rd or 4th time we’ve heard about this happening? Crazy.
Time to muddy the waters. Everyone who is an immigrant (legal or illegal) when asked for an email address, find an email address of an executive at a large corporation and use that.
The last two I read weren’t immigrants, they are born in the U.S. with social security numbers and birth certificates. Well I’m assuming this one has those, being that she’s born and is a doctor here. Practicing doctors require background checks
honest question: did you respond to the wrong person?
No, their reply made perfect sense. We could just use repub official emails for EVERYBODY, not just immigrants, in order to mess up the system scraping this information for everybody and not just immigrants.
If they did, this is a f-ing miracle. Imma do it next time I sign up for a service that doesn’t require confirmation emails to change the address (they’re rare but there’s a few, lemmy/kbin instances are sometimes among them).
Why would you do the via email and not an official letter? People see it as spam or it might be the wrong email adres. Fucking amateurs.
Because none of the people in charge know what they are doing.
There is one good thing about this, if email is now official means of primary government communication, that means it’s a guaranteed right that has to be provided for free.
are you out of your mind? the only official channel of government communication is twitter (x)!
Only benefits for elderly people are done through Twitter, everyone else has to fax.
This is Truth Social erasure, and I will
notstand for it
Because this is who the American people voted for.
Because you’re governed by a fascist dictator who you have given unlimited authority to do whatever the fuck he chooses. And he is.
Of course sending this letter to an American citizen in the first place is bad to begin with.
I better get my documents in order. Like yesterday
With an exotic name like Lisa Anderson (I’m sorry, did I pronounce that right?) She’s kind of asking for trouble like this.
Clearly the daughter of the guy in The Matrix which is not real murica!
They’re pushing the boundaries, to see what they can get away with.
I’m just joking.
They can get away with anything.
They scraped her social media, deemed it to have “Improper Attitude,” and targeted her. Besides, the only reason she’s not the kitchen, not making sammiches where she belongs, is because of AA/DEI, right guyz?!!!
Edit: I looked her up, she’s an OB/GYNO. No wonder. This is intentional, not a mistake.
Remember when they thought the covid shot was a way to keep track of you. Why don’t they care all of a sudden?
This also happened to a practicing immigration lawyer: https://bsky.app/profile/nicolemicheroni.bsky.social/post/3lmpvej6vn22t
Another one?
Must be a “coincidence”
