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Working for Social media companies or health insurance companies isn’t any better as far as destroying the world and mass murdering people by proxy
I haven’t seen Lemmy destroy anything.
Idk, just one glimpse of the fediverse chick was enough to shatter my world.
its not a company.
Yeah but profiting off of starvation, homelessness or sickness is slightly less concerned with destroying human life efficiently, more so extracting value from suffering. Far harder to wiggle your way out of a bomb dropping on you. In that way, defense contractors are especially gross imo. I guess you could argue being blown apart may be more humane though idk
I’ve seen people die in the extract profit from suffering system. If I had to choose I’d choose the quicker option. I mean at the end of the day we’re all stuck in an unethical system of oppression.
Would it be like a spectrum with weapons being a cardinal sin, and cotton swabs and morphine a thing you can only do on lent? Would weapon makers be in a lower circle, logistics in the middle, and those on the periphery of the military apparatus go to purgatory?
I’d say depends on which one and what lobby work they have done. If it is from the US or Russia, it is probably a big no-no.
If it is a European or South American defense contractor or weapons manufacturer, it varies.
And which benevolent corporations IS acceptable to work for?
Maybe “work” is the actual problem. Maybe people shouldn’t waste their entire lives serving murder profiteers. Maybe it’s always been a garbage slaver system.
Of course it is, but I think it’s only marginally better than Walmart. I mean after all, Walmart IS a force for good in the world, right?
no ethical consumption under capitalism etc etc but… there are companies that don’t make a profit by murdering middle eastern people
I think it’s picking nits, economic destruction can be just as complete as military. People starve all over the world every day. Some people live in slavery to make the shirts Walmart sells, etc.
That number is shrinking alarmingly fast
I laughed and upvoted the meme but then I had to find it again and double check to see if it specified a country.
“I refuse to work in defense. I’d rather my work wasn’t used to blow anyone up” is a line I’ve used in multiple job interviews. I like to think the hell I end up going to at least has chilly weather and/or really good AC.
Ah, you’re going to visit Hell, Michigan.
Sounds nice, where do i sign? :)
At MIT in the 1980’s it was called, “Get your fingerprints on the murder weapon.”
Jesus Christ, Finch.
With the amount of classified information that goes into weapons manufacturing, where your just making doo-dad#1, it’s understandable some people wouldn’t even know their doing something wrong.
Makes me think of the, “when does life begin” debate. When do random parts become a weapon of mass destruction?
I’m unable to get any info on what my grandpa did after leaving active duty and going to work for LM on government contracts. I have paperwork mentioning him, and it’s alllllllll still sharpied out almost 70 years later. Dude was a logistics engineer, he basically organized warehouses, yet apparently was so important to the nuclear sub program (Mare Island in the 50s & 60s tells me that much) apparently that I’m not allowed any further info
It’s entirely possible he didn’t know what he was working on, I only have guesses because of other shit we know from decades after his death
I volunteer in my free time so that more Russian occupiers will be eliminated. I’m very proud of myself.
damn it’s true
I don’t work for a defence contractor, but i’ll probably be going to hell anyway since I picked up making/racing drones as a hobby specifically so i have some way of raising hell if my country is ever invaded.
I completely lost respect for an intern when I found out he was going to a weapons company next.
I guess it would
Lockheed does more than just defense contracts
Yeah sometimes they crash spacecraft on Mars
Lockmart felt the pound-force from that burn a kilomile away.
I’ll have to insist in using BTUs for the measurement of burns
Compact fusion could literally save our civilization.
If I worked for a defence contractor, I would make the most accurate weapons in the world. Why? Because when the people who fired those weapons are up in court and they go “Oh well I didn’t MEAN to hit that hospital, the bomb just didn’t hit its intended target”, the prosecutor can go “Nonsense! Those are the most accurate weapons in the world. They ONLY hit what you intended to hit with as much force as you wanted to hit it with!”.
The weapons are gonna get built, I’d rather there be no ambiguity in how they get used. It’s not like WW2 where Bomber Command was like “Here’s the dockyards we want to blow up, and a bajillion tonnes of bombs to blow it up with”, and then the bombers flatten half a city just trying to hit the docks and miss every single time because it’s cloudy, or hit an entirely different city because they got lost on the way!. You only have to look at Russia’s “throw enough artillery shells at the area until it’s completely flat” approach to war to know what happens when you haven’t got precision munitions, or not enough of them.
But if you look at the actual reality of what happens, those bombs are still used to kill civilians with no repercussions.
Bombs are going to be used to kill civilians anyway. Would you rather their deaths be intentional or accidental? Either way a bomb is going to go off, the best you can do is ensure the bomb hits where the person dropping it intended. That way, if it’s a civilian, the person dropping the bomb has no deniability because they hit exactly what they intended to hit.
Nah. I just won’t help bomb civilians at all. I can’t always control whether others help bomb civilians, but I can always control whether I help bomb civilians. Civilian deaths are 99% intentional. They are decided before the bomb is deployed. You will make the bombs knowing they will be used immorally.
Not always immorally. Sometimes they kill Russians (soldiers).
We’re all guilty and we should all go on strike
Defense contractor… Strike… I see what you did there
