We need an fos alternative
I agree. Discord actually had a metaphor that I think plays well for federation. Specifically, they called each group a server. And organized the UI in a way that would make federation pretty transparent.
The only consufsing bit would be the concept of a home server login ID. Like, the lack of a central identity provider. But I think that isn’t a show stopper.
I kinda wish there were fed ID providers that all fed servers used for login and authentication. I’m not sure exactly how that would work, but being able to have a single identity across mastodon, Lemmy, and any other fed service would really simplify things once you were in the fediverse.
RIP discord.
Is this the guy that wanted people to pay for reloading ingame? Society really is built to make idiots rich.
Enshitification applies to EVERYTHING
Originally it was a good descriptor of tech companies starting out as useful and then turning to shit as they leaned into becoming profitable, but if you was to use it as “things get shitty in favor of profits” then I guess it could apply to everything.
I liked the original where it had nuance and was a good shorthand specific to the tech trends.
Words can entshitify? Ahhhh. Everything given enough time will gravitate to its natural state of sucking ass. It’s the you didn’t die when you were the hero scenario all the way down.
As long as we are using enshittification for anything going downhill my word example is lose getting an extra ‘o’ which makes reading ‘I hate it when I loose my keys’ painful. Why the hell is that so common now?
I mean, thats what happened to “literally” hundreds of years ago…
Linux hasn’t enshittified. Neither has the fediverse. Enshittification applies to everything corporate and for-profit.
Linus dies
welp! pack it up! How’s BSD this time of year?
Was the ActiBlizz guy the one involved in all the sexual harassment?
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ActiBlizz guy
sexual harassment
I’m afraid you’ll need to narrow this down a bit further.
No I don’t, given that it’s taking about the former CEO. Unless there were issues with multiple AB CEOs that I’m not aware of?
Back to self-hosted teamspeak then I guess
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Problem is people are fucking lazy and will not move to another platform. I want teamspeak and vent back but people nowadays won’t even try. So we are forced to keep using it. People have no balls to stand up to corpos just to learn something new. It’s infuriating.
I’m not lazy. i have matrix up and ready to go. the issue is I can’t just force 200+ people to just up and abandon a platform where all their stuff is for one community on that platform.
in order for discord to truly die, it needs a HUGE exodus. as right now, my communities are too well integrated.
basically discord needs the same mass exodus that Xitter had to bsky and the elephant one. its the only hope communities have to survive discord dying.
we’re not being lazy. we’re trying to not have whole online communities get upended when discord finally kicks the bucket. (and it will. soon.)
I foresee it more as discord keeps operating fine but with even more embedded ads and trash, and people will become numb to it. Hence ipad baby generation being clueless with how it used to be with very little ads on the internet and corporations continuing to profit off of us.
I miss Ventrilo <3
Vi sitter här i venten och spelar lite dota
Best earworm
Another issue is console integration. I’ve got friends I play with using cross-play (PC-PS5), but the only service we can both use is Discord unless they use multiple devices.
I would love to use Mumble, Matrix or Revolt but it’s the same hurdle.
https://matrix.org/ecosystem/bridges/
You can use matrix and still keep in touch with the lazy people. Having a place for people to go when they eventually get fed up will help a ton.
That is sweet
It should be noted that these only support messaging (including media attachments) but not voice/video calls. I’ve been using bridging for a few years now though.
I want teamspeak and vent
xFire. God I miss xFire. It was better 10 years ago than any service before or since.
Iirc Yahoo frivolous-lawsuit’ed them out of existence. Q_Q
Problem is people are fucking lazy and will not move to another platform.
It’s not that people are lazy, it’s that a feasible alternative does not exist yet.
the problem is not that there is no feasible alternative, the problem is network effects.
Found the lazy
What is wrong with the available programs out there?
None of them come close to doing a single thing better than Discord, or even at the same level as Discord. There simply isn’t an application that realistically competes with any one of Discord’s features yet, let alone the entire suite. Every other platform currently available is either a downgrade in terms of features/functionality, or costs the user money (which immediately makes it prohibitive for 99% of users).
Revolt seems to be very close to what Discord offers, at least at first glance. Its Free and Open Source too.
12 years ago Skype and team speak were the go to for voice chat for gaming. Once someone comes up with a less shitty platform, everyone will start to migrate again.
Uh… You stand up to corpos. Just leave. Nobody is forcing you to use it.
That’s well and good for us, but then we are just the isolated few who do it compared to all our friends that stay with discord because they’re comfortable on it.
Gotta take a stand. There have been a few things where I gotta tell friends that I can’t do this. If they won’t change… Meh. Gotta have principles.
I was like “how could discord be any worse?” Then this drops xD
I just don’t take anything serious… I refuses to pay for anything and always a inch from burning it all down. Social media just is not for me but I love harvesting knowledge.
Magic 8-ball says: enshittification is in your future
Matrix is a good replacement for the text and image bit of Discord, but can anyone suggest a good alternative for the voice comms?
Matrix also has VoIP
Fuck Discord, I hope they go pedal to the medal and destroy the company in record time.
Pedal to the “metal”.
Sorry, all I do is win, so the floor of my car is covered in medals…
Oh yeah, we’re about to see things get really shitty on Discord.
Already have embedded ads. I’m about done with this shit and willing to have no one to talk to just so I don’t give discord the satisfaction of using their Spyware.
Anyone looking for an alternative, Revolt is FOSS and pretty much on par with Discord in 2015. They have voice chat and video chat is in development on their roadmap. You can even self-host your own server.
Was anyone else having trouble making a revolt account yesterday? I kept getting an error, I assume their servers are experiencing an influx of new users
o7 rip Discord, you wont be missed.
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element isn’t bad tbh. I’ve been using it lately, and it’s actually caught up a lot.
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basically foss e2e encrypted discord. https://element.io/
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It’s also federated, so anyone can run a server and any of your users can join any other servers. I’ve been slowly migrating my discord server over to it
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I like Matrix, but it isn’t exactly the easiest platform to use and definitely has some jankiness with voice/video calls.
Revolt is pretty good! Most of the features you want from discord are already there. It’s FOSS and servers can be self-hosted.
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The public servers that are just operating on discovery - sure. I have a private Discord with friends I’ll be looking to transfer, as well as a community with external intake sources.
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Maybe for this crowd. Almost no services I use aside from email were federated, before I went to Lemmy and Mastodon. And now it’s email, Lemmy, and Mastodon. Average users just chasing a good experience don’t really care about federation, despite its benefits.
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