I’m talking about like tax fraud and stuff.
Do you be the snitch, or do you be like Skyler White and join them?
You don’t have join them, but you can also not see a god damned thing. Unless they’re doing something that screws over good, innocent people, especially on a wide scale, I’m minding my own business.
As long as nobody is hurt beyond the pockets, I don’t know shit about fuck.
If it’s non-violent, no. never.
As a general rule, I don’t call the cops on anyone unless that person’s death will prevent immediate harm to others.
Cause if you call the cops on someone, you do put that person (and their neighbors) in mortal danger.
What about taking the direct (early) Breaking Bad example: they’re not gunning people down in the street, but their product is definitely getting poeple, including children, addicted. It’s non-violent, let’s say they don’t even hire people to shoot competitors or whatever, but it is inarguably causing people significant, probably life-long harm.
Wow, where do you live? This just sounds crazy to have to worry about this when deciding whether to involve the cops.
Going to guess America, since all of those rules apply for dealing with U.S. police. If you call them, you have to expect someone to die.
“Expect” seems a bit dramatic, since it’s not like they gun down someone on every call. Be prepared for the possibility, maybe.
It goes like this. If you have a problem and you call the cops, you now have two problems. It’s up to you to decide if the first problem is worth getting into the second.
Honestly, if it’s truly a “loved one” I probably wouldn’t even report them for murder. Why? I think that when someone is close enough to you we simply apply different standards to them. Kind of like rescuing your own child from a burning building rather that rescuing two strangers.
I detest people that make serious holes in their morals for close ones. It’s repulsive.
There’s a big difference between committing a crime and reporting someone for a crime they’ve already committed. To me, it’s pretty clear why murder is wrong - but the virtue of reporting a loved one for murder isn’t nearly as obvious.
Snitch on a loved one? Never. If I thought it was ethically or morally wrong, I would tell them what I think about it. Good people also make mistakes, and good people can change.
What if your family member deliberately molested a young child, would you not want to get that child help? Even if you refused to tell the police, you would need to tell someone related to that child and 99/100 cases would result in them reporting the abuse to police.
How is that a non-violent offence?
10% cut.
Every family and relationship is different, I guess. I feel like active extortion would make the dinners a bit weird for me.
Serious, yes. Tax fraud, no.
Tax fraud may be serious to the govt, and the punishment may be serious, but you’re not hurting an individual, you’re not putting anyone out if business or out of a job, you’re not committing treason, you’re not even displaying sociopathic tendencies. Maybe if it were on the scale of Trump’s tax fraud …
If it harmed an innocent, probably. If it harmed a government, corporation, or detestable person, no.
Rarely is it only one or the other and not both or even several together, though…
It’s a case by case judgment call.
Depends on the details. If their crime hurt someone innocent (or had a high likelihood to) and it was intentional, yes.
If I’m likely to go down with them if they get caught, yes.
Otherwise, I ain’t no snitch and even if I were I don’t know anything about nothing.
Yeah, I would’ve done so too, because that dude was bankrupting people just to make himself a bit richer. I hope he rots in hell.
See, there’s people here saying never for something nonviolent. That’s kinda silly, non-violent crimes can be just as bad. They’re just less visually compelling.
They often don’t consider child sexual abuse where the offense isn’t violent but the child will be permanently harmed unless they get help.
I have higher standards than most people I guess. My rule is simple: don’t be stupid, don’t be a dick. If you can’t clear those two pretty low bars then you are cordially invited to get bent.
This is nepotism plain and simple.
Everyone looks at trump employing his friends and family and complains, but put in the same place you’d all do the same.
Well that’s a left-field response. He’s not just employing friends and family, he’s also employing loyalists who’ve garnered favors from him (because of their loyalty). And it isn’t just a business, it’s a government
I would employ my family if I could, but I sure as hell wouldn’t choose them over qualified professionals, whether it’s a business or a government. I’m sure as shit not gonna have someone with no financial expertise running my accounting, no matter how much I love them.
Don’t make everything political and start stirring shit, we have enough of that right now
Lol. Do you know the word hypocrisy?
Tax fraud costs everyone. https://www.statista.com/chart/8668/the-global-cost-of-tax-avoidance/
What are you on about? Anything but OP’s question I guess, just going on tangents instead?
The article you linked is about corporate tax avoidance btw, which yes, absolutely effects everyone. Anything else you’d like to add to your ramblings?
You are correct that it’s corporate tax fraud in the link I provided. Here’s something about the cost of individual tax fraud.
Please, take your pick.
https://www.efile.com/tax-evaders-tax-cheaters-tax-evasion/
OP:
I’m talking about like tax fraud and stuff.
No. Fuck the government and giant corporations. I mean I wouldn’t commit such crimes, but that’s just because I don’t want to deal with the consequences if I get caught. If you’re willing to pay your nickel and take your chances, go for it, as long as no innocent people are hurt in the process.
Ethics comes above personal relationships always. That being said, small-scale tax fraud doesn’t really seem pressing; there’s plenty of flexibility about what to do about that, ethically speaking.
I’d have to duckduckgo where you even report that, because I don’t think it’s the normal police.
Depends, if the crime severely harms other people
Snitches get stitches. Unless someone is hurting people, I ain’t seen nothing.
What’s the charge? Eating a meal? A succulent Chinese meal?
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