Yes, that’s why it is so good.

I guess we are the ones remembering how it was 15+ years ago

I’ve literally just signed up because of the Reddit policy changes killing off third-party apps, and I’m already confused by some of the conversations on here about the “fediverse” and some stuff about Threads and EEE (whatever that is).

I’m just like, I wanted an alternative to Reddit, what the hell is all this? 😂 Even signing up to this was confusing and I consider myself more tech-savvy than most. I think the process needs to be made simpler to encourage more ex-redditors to sign up.

Bah, I’m three raccoons in an overcoat.
Who… have a steady IT job… dang it.

Yes. Like you said, it’s not a bad thing, but I do miss the energy younger people bring.

Branding is also another factor that comes into play here. Most regular users are used to having a more polished app. Simplicity is the driving force behind apps like tiktok and Instagram. They build on top of each other rather than reinventing the wheel. So it’s just a transfer of skills and patterns. With the fediverse, regular users have relearn those patterns and skills, which most people just aren’t going to do.

One way to solve this problem is to just abstract the idea of the fediverse. Rather than saying “join the fediverse, we’re decentralised” we could say “we’re a multiverse of internet communities”.

I also dont think regular users care about whether a post is from another server or not. This can be abstracted as well by only showing the community not the server. What I’m trying to say is, even though the fediverse is a decentralised network, we need to treat is as a centralized one.

Absolutely It’s really nice how this affects the tech related serious communities but damn is it heartbreaking how bad the memes here are

I was ready to argue that we’re not all older, but apparently I’m in that category. I’m not very tech literate or use Linux, though.

I think someone else got it right. Younger people didn’t live through dial-up and the old internet. They grew up with polished apps and fast loading websites. They’re used to convenience.

It can be intimidating to join the fediverse. I was intimidated and still a bit confused. It’s not something I’m familiar with in the slightest. I’m not scared of challenging myself to learn something new in tech, though, because of the generation I was born into. We grew up experimenting with the crunchy internet and awkward technology.

We do need to attract young people, this is what social media do as well, very important.

This is a constant cycle.

Tech nerds invent new technology/platform>nerds flock to new thing>the masses hear about it and start flooding it>money notices a large user base that isn’t being complete wrung out for money>money destroys the new thing by making it unusable for profit>repeat

Perhaps it’s because people under 30 have no sense of responsibility so don’t really care to communicate much with peers. They don’t have the means to bring systems like this online. They don’t have the historical perspective to take part in intelligent conversation, so they have Twitter and Facebook.

I feel the two big reasons are:

1. The average user of a site like Reddit probably hasn’t noticed any significant changes; or if they have, they just don’t see them as a problem. So they don’t have any significant incentive to emigrate to another site. On the other hand, people who are tech-savvy notice the changes; and decide they need to move.

2. To a lot of people, the Fediverse is just not as convenient as centralized sites. People who are more tech-savvy and/or use Linux, are willing to put up with a bit of inconvenience in exchange for using a site they see as better.

It’s also worth keeping in mind that right now, the Fediverse is still in its early days. Every site in its early days generally has a broadly similar userbase- people who are familiar with technology and willing to put up with some inconvenience because they see the potential.

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43 here. IT consultant. Have been on every social media platform since Myspace all the way back to Usenet if you want to consider that social media which is what is basically was. On the major platforms these days, I mostly lurk and DM with fam and friends along with small Discord groups. Since joining the fediverse, and more specifically Lemmy, I’ve been much more active commenting and posting then I’ve been in years. I actively encourage friends and fam to join, but the fact is the fediverse is young and isn’t as user friendly. It has to reach a critical mass of ease of use and user adoption which is what’s being driven up right now like all other platforms before it. The more people join, the more it will be streamlined, feeding back to usability so more people discover and join, etc. etc. This is how all platforms evolved except in the case of the fediverse, it isn’t controlled by a single entity which has its pluses and minuses. I don’t expect MetaThreadBook, Reddit, Twitter, et al to go anywhere anytime soon, but diversification and competition is always good. If we can reach critical mass with the fediverse, it will provide a good check against these monopolistic entities and hopefully result in better overall communities and interactions.

Fucking zoomers with their tiktoks and snapchats, what was so wrong with old school forums?

I just joined lemmy and I am 20 and I am liking it here