McIntire, a 19-year-old student at Boston’s University of Massachusetts, appeared in federal court Friday and has been charged with one count of unlawful possession of an unregistered destructive device and one count of malicious damage by fire of any property used in interstate commerce.

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  • @peoplebeproblems@midwest.social
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    462 months ago

    They really are this dumb.

    They think this will discourage targeted destruction of an oligarch? Decades for worthless cars?

    If you get decades for that- make sure to get the rest of the lot. Bonus points for for a factory.

      • Encephalotrocity
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        32 months ago

        Tough talk from a keyboard warrior. I expect the next act of civil disobedience to be tagged “this one is for Lemmy fam” or you’re full of it.

        Nothing but false bravado from russian subversive operators as far as I see.

        • @RedPostItNote@lemmy.world
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          22 months ago

          Why would you ask someone to do this? I like this place. I’d rather not see that happen.

          Human beings are being pushed too far right now in America. I would have a healthier fear of it than you seem to.

          • Encephalotrocity
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            12 months ago

            Conversely to shut them up. It’s all impotent frustration that isn’t going to pan out to shit. Real gradeschoolers in the playground vibes.

            I wouldn’t call your fear healthy until it is about something happening. Right now you’re empowering their BS tbh so some self-reflection might be in order on your part.

              • Encephalotrocity
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                12 months ago

                Careful now or I’ll raise my virtual fist in the air and you’ll be quaking in your boots for the rest of the day.

    • @jonne@infosec.pub
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      I mean, arson itself is usually punished very harshly because it can easily get out of control and kill people (and most of those laws predate modern fire safety standards). It might be a good idea to look for alternative ways to vandalise Tesla’s that don’t have harsh punishments associated with them. Or if you do, try not to get caught.

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        It might be a good idea to look for alternative ways to vandalise Tesla’s that don’t have harsh punishments associated with them.

        One popular method of destroying cybertrucks is simply treating them like a normal car. Perhaps Owen should have vandalized their neighbor’s car by giving it a good rinse? That tends to brick these dumpsters

  • ZeroOne
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    The keyword here is “Alleged”. As far as anyone knows, She was just falsely-flagged.

  • 52fighters
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    642 months ago

    I’m not a lawyer but the feds claiming it as a federal case because cars could be used in interstate commerce seems lame. Should be a Missouri case, not a federal case.

    • insufferableninja
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      Bullshit expansion of the commerce clause has been ongoing for at least 100 years.

      c.f. Swift & Co, 1905 (?) and Wickard 1942

      • SSTF
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        I loves me Wickard v. Filburn which held that a farm not doing interstate commerce could be regulated by the Commerce Clause because the lack of commerce affected interstate commerce.

  • magnetosphere
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    Yes, arson is a crime, and rightly so. “Decades behind bars”, however, for setting two cars on fire (and damaging two charging stations) is insanely disproportionate. There’s a very important reason that not all infractions are sentenced to the maximum possible extent:

    If the government is going to drop any pretense of mercy or sanity, then there’s no reason why people shouldn’t take their time, plan things carefully, and destroy the whole dealership. People who would otherwise do less damage are taking note. Sure, some will be scared away, but I think more will be emboldened. Maybe I’m wrong, but it doesn’t matter. Either way, the end result will be worse.

    The government is basically telling people that prosecutors won’t be reasonable, so you might as well make sure the crime is truly worthy of the punishment. I cannot overemphasize what a terrible idea this is.

    • @PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works
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      42 months ago

      Absolutely, it’s called a proportional response for a reason. I always think of the West Wing scene when this subject comes up. The whole scene lives in my head rent free to be honest.

    • @evilcultist@sh.itjust.works
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      Her punishment should be at least as bad as the sentences rioters served for breaking into the U.S. capitol. Or maybe that should be the cap since her actions didn’t result in death and weren’t intended as an attempt at insurrection (unless someone that owns Tesla is now considered the head of government).

    • @ouRKaoS@lemmy.today
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      It’s like the zero-tolerance policy my at my kid’s school…

      I told them if you get hit, since you’re going to get suspended anyway, fight back until I get there to pick you up.

      • Grass Cat
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        92 months ago

        “zero tolerance” in public schools is 100% copout cowardice from administrators who would rather hide behind policy instead of having to earn their six-figure incomes by making the basic fundamental decisions that the job duties entail. All principals everywhere are midwit cowards.

        • @Railing5132@lemmy.world
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          While I agree with the assessment of zero tolerance policies, there isn’t a soul in our entire school district that is making 6 figures. Most of the faculty in our district are barely scraping by because the voters believe this collective delusion that schools have more money than god and are full of wasteful spending. That is a lie promulgated by conservatives to defund schools.

          Stop feeding that lie.

          • Grass Cat
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            12 months ago

            I am a public school advocate from MI where every single administrator in the state makes six figures as well as many gym teachers who don’t yet grasp the English language’s most basic homophones.

            This is reality. I think public school admin has collectively failed our country as much if not more so than any profession.

            • @Railing5132@lemmy.world
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              52 months ago

              I am a (recently) former school board member of my district in MI and personally reviewed the compensation packages for our staff.

              Quit spreading bullshit.

              • Grass Cat
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                12 months ago

                Which district? I’m in Grand Rapids and can name TWO gym teachers from my first failing district who pulled six figures and struggled with the most basic homophones.

                It’s not BS to say that admin makes six figures. Most all admin do.

                • @Railing5132@lemmy.world
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                  Your very own OP said (and I’m on mobile with a shit app so I can’t copy and paste, so I’m quoting from memory, but y’all can look up there for the actual words): "I’m a public education advocate from MI and all (emphasis mine) admin make 6 figures.

                  That part. That’s a lie. You’re now moving the goalposts and I’m calling you on your bullshit.

                  I’m not going to do myself as I’ve taken pains to remain anonymous after being doxxed and harassed on that other shit platform. Suffice it to say that I don’t live in one of the most affluent school districts in Michigan (ahem; Rockford and what other ISD’s around GR?). I live among the poorest.

                  I’m not disagreeing on gym teachers not knowing the basics of other subjects, but you keep going on your gish gallop.

          • @andros_rex@lemmy.world
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            The problem is admin.

            Principals make a bit less than $100k. One year, my principal just didn’t show up to work. Like, it was a game where she’d show up in the morning sometimes if the superintendent was going to be there, but otherwise completely gone.

            But, if I tried to do something like give the star basketball player the grade he earned, or tried to write up a student for watching tiktoks on full volume during class - she’d show up just to force me to do nothing.

  • Chozo
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    How can you possibly blame this kid when Cybertrucks have been known to self-immolate? They have faulty batteries that catch on fire left and right; the rustbucket was likely already on fire before he got there.

    • @muusemuuse@lemm.ee
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      102 months ago

      You know what? I know this was a joke but this is a fantastic idea. A way to protest that even the old and weak can take part in. What are you going to do, outlaw feeding birds? Good luck with that.

  • @WFloyd@lemmy.world
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    192 months ago

    I used to drive on State Line past that lot full of Teslas daily, always saw a ton of Cybertrucks just sitting. Once Musk started getting so much (more) hate I figured it was a matter of time before someone torched it.

    Also, I always find it funny how it’s totally just a road that divides the states, I’d drive to work and be “in” Missouri and drive home “in” Kansas lol

    • @buddascrayon@lemmy.world
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      It’s honestly better if that inventory sits on the lot unpurchased. It costs them money to store it and it looks bad for them having old inventory around months or even years out of date. Torching it just gives them a nice insurance payout.

  • @j0ester@lemmy.world
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    Oh, great! Now Donald will be like, “we’ll need to look in to BU. We believe they are harboring terrorist.”

    • @TheodorAlforno@feddit.org
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      Insurance premiums will be adjusted. Plus people will avoid buying Teslas if there are too many attacks on them.

      That being said, I think there are smarter ways to fight for democracy.

  • @Formfiller@lemmy.world
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    102 months ago

    Too bad he wasn’t a right wing kid shooting liberal protestors to death because he’d be hailed as a hero and given awards and tv appearances.