McIntire, a 19-year-old student at Boston’s University of Massachusetts, appeared in federal court Friday and has been charged with one count of unlawful possession of an unregistered destructive device and one count of malicious damage by fire of any property used in interstate commerce.
If we ever get another President not named Trump this will be pardoned instantly.
If the Federal government takes over prosecution the big charge is going to be that Destructive Device charge which looks to be up to 10 years. It seems unlikely the sentence imposed would be the max on every charge, media loves to report maximums as if they are automatically what always gets handed down, but that’s just media being dramatic.
I’d really love media articles to actually explain sentencing in detail on articles where they just throw around numbers without explaining them.
They really are this dumb.
They think this will discourage targeted destruction of an oligarch? Decades for worthless cars?
If you get decades for that- make sure to get the rest of the lot. Bonus points for for a factory.
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Tough talk from a keyboard warrior. I expect the next act of civil disobedience to be tagged “this one is for Lemmy fam” or you’re full of it.
Nothing but false bravado from russian subversive operators as far as I see.
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Why would you ask someone to do this? I like this place. I’d rather not see that happen.
Human beings are being pushed too far right now in America. I would have a healthier fear of it than you seem to.
Conversely to shut them up. It’s all impotent frustration that isn’t going to pan out to shit. Real gradeschoolers in the playground vibes.
I wouldn’t call your fear healthy until it is about something happening. Right now you’re empowering their BS tbh so some self-reflection might be in order on your part.
It’s bigger grade schooler on the playground vibes that you feel the need to chime in insulting strangers.
Careful now or I’ll raise my virtual fist in the air and you’ll be quaking in your boots for the rest of the day.
I mean, arson itself is usually punished very harshly because it can easily get out of control and kill people (and most of those laws predate modern fire safety standards). It might be a good idea to look for alternative ways to vandalise Tesla’s that don’t have harsh punishments associated with them. Or if you do, try not to get caught.
It might be a good idea to look for alternative ways to vandalise Tesla’s that don’t have harsh punishments associated with them.
One popular method of destroying cybertrucks is simply treating them like a normal car. Perhaps Owen should have vandalized their neighbor’s car by giving it a good rinse? That tends to brick these dumpsters
two Tesla Cybertrucks worth more than $100,000
Doubt
I mean, it looks like a new cyber truck starts at $62k right now. They’re not wrong, but that’s no reason to completely ruin this guy’s life, he’s already paying for college…
What they are worth is what someone is willing to pay for it, not what Tesla prices it at.
They aren’t selling: Cybertruck Isn’t Selling So Tesla Shifts Production To What Actually Sells
Even Tesla doesn’t want them and refuses them as trade-ins but will take other cars so its not a problem with trade-ins in general: Tesla Is So Cooked That It’s Now Refusing to Accept Cybertrucks as Trade-Ins
but that’s no reason to completely ruin this
girl’sguy’s life, she’s already paying for college…We agree on this.
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Noted and changed, thanks
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For real, those piece of shit cars have more rights than we do
If you get decades for that then this just encourages going all in.
Cop: kills innocent man; gets 2 years of prison
Student: burns 2 ugly as fuck cars in protest, hurting no actual people; gets several decades of prison
Wait, your cops are going to prison?
occasionally they need to satiate the people with a performative, jailing of PIGs. they will definitely do it if a rich person gets killed.
Sometimes they need a fall guy otherwise the peons start to see a pattern.
Very rarely. And only in the most grotesque cases.
One of them was against our poor victimised billionaire class!
Lesson learned, I guess. If she had only set fire to the Capitol in support of an insurrection in support of the far right, she’d be up for a pardon.
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Insurance premiums will be adjusted. Plus people will avoid buying Teslas if there are too many attacks on them.
That being said, I think there are smarter ways to fight for democracy.
The keyword here is “Alleged”. As far as anyone knows, She was just falsely-flagged.
We honor the sacrifices of our soldiers o7
Impossible. She was at my house at the time of said incident.
I set fire to that dealership.
I used to drive on State Line past that lot full of Teslas daily, always saw a ton of Cybertrucks just sitting. Once Musk started getting so much (more) hate I figured it was a matter of time before someone torched it.
Also, I always find it funny how it’s totally just a road that divides the states, I’d drive to work and be “in” Missouri and drive home “in” Kansas lol
I work in KS and live in MO. Love paying income tax in two states! /s
It’s honestly better if that inventory sits on the lot unpurchased. It costs them money to store it and it looks bad for them having old inventory around months or even years out of date. Torching it just gives them a nice insurance payout.
I really don’t like jury duty. And would do plenty to get out of it. If I got called for this one. I would happily nullify it as hard as I could.
No you would not. You would find that she is not guilty.
What you’re describing has a name, and that name is nullification.
No it’s not. Discussing nullification would get be booted off a jury. However, if considering all the facts, I were to vote not guilty, it would not.
Think whatever you like but jury nullification is when a juror votes “not guilty” when they actually think someone is guilty of a law that they disagree with.
Okay. Apparently you think I’m fighting you for no reason. Is it nullification? Yes. Don’t call it that. Don’t talk about that. Because it will get you booted off a jury.
Haha, I mean, we’re definitely arguing over semantics but you’re saying something equivalent to, “No, don’t eat ice cream. Put some in your mouth and then swallow it, but don’t eat. We never eat.”
Except the point is that if you say you would eat ice cream, you don’t get the ice cream. Legally speaking as a juror you are supposed to uphold the law. If the judge or prosecutor has any inkling you might nullify, they’ll boot your ass out of the pool in a hurry.
On the plus side mentioning Jury Nullification during the selection process on a case you do not want anything to do with and they will cut you so fast your head will be spinning. Just knowing about it makes you a threat to the prosecutors.
That is what Jury Nullification means, the jury ignores the law (usually because it is being misapplied or the law itself is bullshit) and finds the defendant not guilty, regardless of whether they did the “crime” or not.
Only if nullification was not a possibility. Nullification sends a much stronger and important message. Namely we don’t give a fuck if they’re guilty or not. Because this is a bullshit show trial that does not have Justice in mind. Yes I’m aware prosecutors often ask for the largest applicable sentence possible eventually negotiating down. That doesn’t make this any less bullshit.
What thee heck is a destructive device? A can of petrol? This is ludicrous, double and triple charging people.