Curious what others have found when transitioning to a vaporizer. Been a flower bong smoker for 3 ish years and the hockers got to be too much.
Got the arizer xq2 yesterday and have been enjoying the lack of black phlegm but the high is much headdier as opposed to body of the traditional bong.
Vapor sneaks up on you lol, being able to blow it directly in with the fan is nice too. Haven’t fucked with the bags yet as it seems a little much. Been treating lungs as the bags with that fan honestly
What were your experiences/thoughts when going to a vape?
I use CBD/CBG (read: hemp) for pain and stress management (it even helped me quit smoking cigarettes): Lately I’ve been using a Dynavap and a S&B Mighty+ but I’ve been taking advantage of DHV/TEDs off and on since the turn of the millennium.
I started with a shitty globe, then an MFLB (outdated now), eventually landing on an S&B Mighty+ (easy to use, but overpriced) and Dynavaps (hard to use but after a learning curve, they are excellent inexpensive devices).
If you are looking for a good portable, I’d definitely recommend Arizer (Solo 3 V2 if you want something powerful, Argo if you want something compact), Dynavap (if you don’t mind a learning curve, any are good, but if you want something to use with water pipes and whatnot, get a BB3, 6, or 9 or Vong).
If you are looking for good desktops, ball vapes are pretty much the best. There’s also the S&B Volcano Hybrid which is pretty good and easy to use, but very very expensive for what it is. I also have an Arizer Vtower (good bang for your buck) and an S&B Plenty (I find it ridiculous, but I think it is more geared for recreational marijuana users in a group who are going to go through a lot of it at once).
You can also use the resin that builds up in the stems as well as the vaped hemp or marijuana to make drinks, food, tinctures, etc. If you’re a a THC user, be careful about how much you consume here because stuff like stem milk can be very potent.
Personally, I stick to the non-intoxicating stuff for a few different reasons, but CBD/CBG absolutely kicks the shit out of advil for pain and I no longer need antidepressants for anxiety.
Cbg is great for migraines. I work with kids with disabilities (lots of lifting and moving) so i feel safer using cbg instead of prescription meds (that make me spacey/clumsy) when I’m at work.
The hockers??
Loogies.
I went from joints to a DynaVap which was a marvel of engineering but I didn’t like still needing a lighter and I burnt myself on it a few times. Switched to an Arizer Solo which was amazing and really blew my mind, it was the first time I could see how much better vaping was with 0 downsides.
And now I’m on a Volcano Hybrid and oh lord, never take this thing away from me ever. I only ever use the balloons and never had to complain about a difference in high, I like the tube but I feel the balloon is such a calmer experience. You don’t have to worry about “losing” anything, or your herb isn’t cooking while you take in the vape, you can just enjoy it at your own rythm with your herb resting.
Yes. At home I chill with the Volcano Hybrid and its balloons.
For outside/portable use I have a Mighty+. Wich isn’t pretty or cheap. But has almost the same performance as the Volcano in taste.
Steer clear of the Venty as it is a nightmare to clean compared to the Mighty.
Yup. Volcano original for home, Mighty+ when on the go.
I use the premade bags for the Volcano. You really don’t have to think much about it; it’s easy to start a session and the high is the same as a joint. What’s nice is you don’t have to finish the whole thing like you might with a joint. It gives you more control and doesn’t stink.
Yeah the time control is a huge often unspoken part. Yes you can resume a joint later but it’s not the same. Here you’re fully in control you can do 10mn there 1h there and have no difference of taste or effect
The Volcano Hybrid was my daily driver for the last few years, and it’s still one of the best vapes around, but I recently bought a Venty and absolutely love it. I produce the same amount of vapor as a full Hybrid balloon, with less flower. The cleaning really isn’t that bad at all, you just need a toothpick and maybe some alcohol. Though to be fair I didn’t realize how much plant matter would end up in the cooling unit, but once I figured out how it all works it’s super straightforward to keep clean.
Edit: I forgot to mention the two best things about the Venty: the adjustable airflow means at the highest setting it’s basically unrestricted, so it feels the same as pulling on a Volcano balloon, and the other is that it goes from cold to fully heated and ready to vape in less than 20 seconds. It’s wild how fast it heats up.
FYI - you can use oven bags to replace the bags at a much lower cost, they’ll work fine with the Volcano/Volcano Hybrid.
I started with a pax2. Now i use a dynavap with an induction heater. I like it more then i expected to. Also have a bunch of disposables (secretnature.com) lying around for lazy times, concerts, etc.
I love secret nature disposables!
Check out wildwood.
What coil are you using?
I use that alien, spaceship heater.
ETA- UFO. https://thestashshack.com/products/ufo-induction-heater
How do you like it? I have a YLL2 (love it) and a Wand (it’s pretty good but I like the YLL2 better). Apparently the Wand can do dabs too, but I’ve never seen CBD or CBG dabs anywhere, can’t comment on how well it works for that.
I really like it. I used the pax for a few years and resisted the dynavap because of the torch. I really like the UFO! I usually run a bowl twice. Makes weed last forever.
Industrial hemp farms sells cbd/cbg/cbn isolate powder which is essentially diamonds in crushed up powder form as well as cbd shatter dabs. The wand can do dabs fine but the problem is stock cups and carb it comes with sucks. You need a dynavap or similar herb chamber and vape wool/Japanese cotton to get it working reliably.
I was not aware of that, thanks!
Started with the extreme q. Liked it, but didn’t replace smoking. Bought a solo 2 next. Liked it more, and still take with for vacations, but also didn’t stop smoking.
Now I have a ball vape, the screwball. Running through a sky glass lunar bubbler. Haven’t smoked since. This thing absolutely replaces my 18" beaker and combustion. I get bigger hits off the same amount of weed compared to combustion, and it tastes so so much better.
I just bought an XQ2 so I won’t be able to buy another for a few years but I’ll keep the screwball in mind. I bet it’s worth the investment.
It’s an upgraded version of the extreme q, and mine was a good vape. Time to heat up was what made me want to upgrade. With the ball vape, I can leave it on and it just replaces a lighter.
I leave my eq on constantly never turn it off. Did you ever mess with the timer settings to turn it off and keep the eq on all the time? I agree heatup time is a bitch but If you never turn it off it doesnt really matter once its heated.
I’m a lightweight and not a frequent user. My goal in smoking is to get high.
I rarely used my previous vape because it got me barely any effects, at 200°C it sometimes wasted entire chamber of weed for what gave me a mild headache.
So, following the advice in this forum, I got a new one and a grinder. A modern one. A recommended one. TinyMight 2.
Tried it 2 times so far and maybe that’s what you mean by “head high”, for me it’s all the side effects of smoking, but I don’t actually get high. Doesn’t take the edge off, or make me giggle, or deeply relaxed, or make me think, just hungry and balance was a bit off. And I think I used it correctly, the cloud was mighty both times.
Sorry to hear your step back into the vape journey isnt starting off hot. Everyone is different some people are into vapes some prefer to stick with combustion that’s why I try to recommend cheaper vapes when people ask so they aren’t out hundreds of $ if its not for them.
For me vaping its a creeping high. The more you sesh back to back the more you feel it in the eyes and the relaxation. Instead of one or two bowls sesh it out over an hour and like six bowls to see how it creeps. Setting also matters a lot. I find that walking or basking in sunlight and bird watching in early morning really adds to the meditative relaxing affects compared to sitting in a room.
Theres a general consensus that a low temp vape sesh hits different than high temp One Hit Extraction sessions. Turn your vaporizer up to its highest setting or around 420-430f and see if that hits and different than seshing around 380f. Does your abv look light brown or pitch black? Thats how you know.
I’m hesitant to recommend another vape since your first few havent worked out. If you still interested, maybe try a dynavap next. With a torch or IH you can ride the line between ABV and ash to get the most combustion-like vapor possible without actually smoking. If a back to back OHE sesh with a dynavap tip turning your bud pitch black in one breath is still not doing much for you, I dont think much will. At least you can use it like a fancy combustion dugout. The dynavaps are a big improvement over fake cigarette dugout pipes even if you just want to smoke out of them.
Keep in mind the high you get from smoking is different because of the carcinogens and carbon dioxide inhalation. You can get similar affects holding in your breath and depriving yourself of oxygen. Dry herb vapor evaporates the terps and all the cannabanoid/hash oil in the plant while leaving all the plant matter carbon behind. Do you get similar heady highs from dabbing concentrate too? Its basically the same difference on a micro level.
I don’t have access to fancy stuff like concentrates, so I can’t tell you about that. But I had a cookie a few times and that was a proper high, nothing like what I’m getting from vapes, so I doubt it’s about the CO₂. I held the vapor in, too, force of habit.
I’ll try cranking up the temperature, tinymight can get quite hot so maybe that’s the way to go for me. The leftovers were brown so there’s still some hope.
Thanks for the long reply!
I also just bought a XQ2 and I love it! I switched to vape pens a couple years ago because regular flower was too harsh on my lungs and I couldn’t hike up mountains. I’m enjoying dry vaping immensely… it’s like rediscovering my love for reefer. So much better than pens and without the pen headaches. The high somehow lasts longer with dry vaping and I don’t get headaches. It feels great on my muscles, too.
Are you looking for a portable unit? I bought the XQ2 and the POTV Lobo (planet of the vapes) at the same time. The Lobo has really impressed me so far. It’s the only battery unit I’ve seen that has replaceable batteries, which is huge. The high isn’t quite as nice as the XQ2, but it’s comparable.
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I use a dry herb vape. Pax 3 specifically. Love the damn thing, but it’s definitely milder than a joint. Tastes way better though
An aliexpress ball vape (b2cvape Store) is better and cheaper than a volcano, I really didn’t like the volcano, fwiw I didn’t like the arizer tower either.
The mighty+ and crafty are good for portable but they’ve got a battery that’ll eventually die, I’d prefer replaceable 18650s. Even cheap portable vapes seem to do the trick.
Ultimately vapes are the healthier choice. I do miss bongs, they’re quick and I get to breathe smoke like a fucking dragon, but smoke does more damage to your lungs, no questions about it.
Coming up on 7 years now on my Mighty and I did one battery replacement on it so far which took about an hour of work. I’m very happy with the vapor quality and notice a big difference comparing it against other vapes I’ve used ( pax 1, pax 2, dynavap m 2017/2022, boundless cf, and a few others). A friend has a Venty and it seems pretty nice too, but I like the flatter form factor of the mighty for better pocket fit.
I feel the other way around. I’ve used the mighty before but I hated it. It’s double the size of my pax and seemingly lasts half as long.
I love my xq2, been a few years since i switched from bongs and it awesome. The highs are cleaner, and the flavour is amazing and my lungs are 1000% better now i dont smoke anything at all.
Edited to add i use the whip exclusively, but my buddy uses only the bags! its cool both options are legit.
Really would like to transition, but a volcano is still 300-350 euro in my country. I know it’s a premium vape but yeah I would like to use this bad boy atleast a few years.
If any fellow toker can recommend a good cheaper alts, then that would be appreciated.
Sure im happy to help you out.
Arizer vtower is a good budget desktop vape similar in form to volcano though obviously not comparable beyond basic shape and some functions. You can get it on sale around 90$USD. Go a little more for arizer EQs to get blower motor for balloons, kind of gimmicky in my experience.
Dynavap is a non-electronic dry herb vape with good entry level options. Their cheapest model is 40$. You can heat it with lighter, torch, or induction heater. The all metal ones will probably last you a lifetime.
Vaphit is Chinese knockoff dynavap you can get from vape sellers like vgoodiez. They make cheap all glass stuff heated with torch and a knockoff metal m for like 20-30$.
Invest in a ball vape before a volcano. I got a knockoff terp hammer from b2cvape on aliexpress.
I’ve owned a volcano for over a decade. Aside from the novelty at parties, it doesn’t get used. I don’t think I’ve even gotten it out in 4-5 years.
Did you go back to smoking, or a different vape? I know some ppl that only consume through vaping (Volcano) so I still think it’s viable, but then again I don’t own one.
Certainly viable. It’s a taste/preference issue. Everything tastes slightly of overcooked popcorn, and it’s a bit of a hassle to set up just for one person (though I think I’ve seen individual size ‘bowls’ for it recently).
Maybe borrow one from a friend to see if you really like it before spending that much.
I went back to water filtered.
I hate how they stole the word “vape” from us.
Recent convert to dry herb vaping. I’m higher longer and I don’t cough anymore. I smoked an 8th in a weed instead of my usual ounce. It’s the way.
It lasts so long that it’s almost a problem. I had a monthly one ounce subscription that i never got through so i have about a pound of that sitting in jars. Plus many many others that i was excited to try but couldn’t finish before finding the next exciting thing.
glad to hear everything working out for you so far bizzle 🙂
I smoked for over a decade. As a teenager I tried pax and arizer eq but I didn’t really understand it. As an adult my first vaporizer was the arizer air max. I got it to substitute a travel dugout. Hated smoking through those fake cigarettes constant butante and pull through scooby snack inhalation.
The air max is a great terp chasing device with nice features but its not powerful and the glass stem filters with four little holes sucks. I just got a steel screen mesh stem from eds this week for 420 been wanting one for over a year.
I really liked the air max and quit smoking soo after, but it always left me feeling like there could be more. Thats when I remembered someone left their old crap in my house when they moved. Two desktop arizer EQs were just waiting to be used.
The desktop EQs were a step up. But I was never really happy with elbow packing, or the huge cyclone/connesuir bowls, or the bags. I just wasnt satisfied with stock EQ experience. Had to buy aftermarket parts from ddave and some vapes balls and some good glass to complete the arizer desktop experience.
I also got into the dynavap stuff. I needed something more powerful than the air max that could OHE. The m+ and induction heater was such a good intro to the dynaverse and since then I got some other Dyna stems to try out.
