If your dad is Bill Gates, you’re probably not getting a Starbucks gift card for graduating college.
In 2018, Jennifer Gates walked off the Stanford stage and onto a 124-acre, $15.82 million horse farm in North Salem, New York. According to Architectural Digest, the lavish estate was a graduation gift from her billionaire parents—and came complete with rolling pastures, three parcels of land, and proximity to New York City for her future studies.
But in case that sounds too much like the plot of “Succession: Equestrian Edition,” Melinda Gates would like to remind everyone: their kids were absolutely raised “middle class.”
Rich people always, without exception, fail to recognize their own disconnections from reality.
A graduation gift worth more than most people will earn over an entire career.
Middle finger class.
Never forget that Bill’s mom was on the board of directors at IBM and pushed for the company to use her boy’s software startup in the very beginning. Microsoft was built entirely on this nepotism and monopoly. There is nothing remotely middle class about that story.
She wasn’t on the board of directors of IBM, she was on another board which the CEO of IBM was also on.
It’s a distinction without a difference, but still.
cross class “networking” is common and more or less the only way people move up in the class system. Having rich colleagues/ aquatences is an important part of most extremely successful startups and is absolutely something that happens to “middle class” people, just not to those living paycheck to paycheck.
Rich people are so goddamn out of touch with reality.
In 2018, Bill Gates’ net worth was approximately $90 billion. His estimated income was around $12 billion, according to estimates from Business Insider.
In 2018, the median net worth of an American household was $101,800. I chose median cause these billionaires drastically skew the mean. The median household income was $63,179.
If an average American household gave the same scale of gift in 2018, based on household income, the gift would be $83.29, and based on net worth, it’d be $17.89.
So it’s the equivalent of letting you kid buy a DVD from the discount bin.
At those sums, there’s really no equivalent. That discounted DVD has a real impact on your finances, even though it is a small impact. There’s no purchase that Bill Gates has to forego after spending 16 million on a horse farm, because the money flows in faster than he could ever spend it. He won’t be steaming a ham fewer for it, as we say in upstate New York.
It’s like letting your kid buy a DVD from the discount bin at the store you own?
To be fair, out of all the billionaires they at least have made attempts to not make their kids shiteheads which is in stark contrast to most billionaires. At one point in time at least, they were only leaving $10m to each child, with plans to donate everything else.
Is that enough to live better than 99.99% of us? Absolutely. But it’s also not: I can do whatever I want and buy whatever I want and never have to think about money again.
leaving $10m to each child, with plans to donate everything else
The plans were to donate everything else to a tax-advantaged “charity” in which the Gates family retains complete financial control.
This is not philanthropy. It is tax avoidance, greenwashing, and a public relations campaign.
Yeah, it might be public relations, but the malaria nets and polio vaccines and HIV treatments and guinea work eradication did actually save millions of lives.
It’s one thing to argue that doing good doesn’t make up for doing bad, but it’s another thing to refuse to acknowledge the good at all.
the countries have complained about his vaccines as being only sourced from us backed countries, so most of them couldnt afford it. he still pretty much a ruthless business man, like the above comments he is greenwashing his image.
How many billionaires are sourcing from locals? Guessing the answer is closer to none.
when gates was on reddit, he choose AMA sub, so he wouldnt get criticized, they wouldnt allow you to question him on his charities being used tax evasion or money laundering.
this is not how generational wealth work.
lets say you are 17. having a party in the house with 100k cash in your bank account. you hear dad talk about a big merger “this company will be this company and the stock will go up” you put 50k on that and now you have 300k or something.
I sat with a few upper class once, if I have cache on hand I will be millionaire by now, it doesn’t take much to get rich when you hang out with rich people…
It’s more like “Hey, I have an idea for a new type of toilet. Can you get me a meeting with your golf buddy who is the CEO of the largest toilet company in the world?”. This is literally how Microsoft started.
But it’s also not: I can do whatever I want and buy whatever I want and never have to think about money again.
That’s all she’s saying. They raised the kids with limits. That’s what she should have said. They obviously weren’t raised “middle class” or anything like it.
I mean, its really open to interpretation.
If Melinda got them up in the morning, made them breakfast and drove them to school herself and picked them up (Even if its in a Bentley), make their snacks when they get home and helped them with their homework(even if you’re getting the snacks out of a walk-in fridge and the housekeeper bought them) thats some regular people shit.
If you have the nanny get them up, the driver take them to school and pick them up then their tutor helps them with their homework while your chef asks them what they would like for dinner… thats not.
I don’t agree that it’s open to interpretation or that your first example constitutes “regular people shit” in any meaningful way. I agree that there’s a difference between having servants and not, obviously, but I don’t think it’s that helpful of a distinction here.
Second of all, flying on a private jet and living in a mega mansion is in no way middle class. I just can’t get on board with the idea of mom picking you up in a Bentley and getting snacks out of a walk-in fridge as being middle class.
I think my point stands. I think it was good to raise them with limits and some humility, that will help them in life, but I think “middle class” and “regular people shit” is simply inapplicable here.
The problem is that the working poor and the billionaires all think they are middle class. Because poor is for non-whites.
Melinda fucking Gates doesn’t know what “middle class” means, big shocker there…
middle class to her is being a poor millionaire’s budget.
Lol “middle class”… Does anyone know a middle class family? I just see people with money, and people who don’t have enough. That’s the real world… Maybe long ago there was a middle class?
I’ve met people who had enough but not too much. Never hurting for money, one vacation a year out of state but not out of the country, bought cars new but drove them for decades. Working class, but comfortable.
Yeah, some still exists, most have gone the way of the dodo
https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and-ethnicity/2024/05/31/the-state-of-the-american-middle-class/
Diminished sure, but still the largest group.
Its middle class, how much do they need to spend on graduation? 1mil? Yeah, we’ll go 16mil and be the most middle class.
When you are a billionaire a $16m ranch is middle class.
Remember the difference between 1 million and 1 billion, is 1 billion.
It’s not. It’s 999 million.
rounded up
Eh, it’s a 0.1% difference
Correct.
It’s well within tolerance. Functionally 1 billion :p
I’ll gladly take the difference.
I know people want to hate on Bill for being rich, and I can understand that, but I still prefer him to a certain South African billionaire.
Maybe some people will say that’s like comparing a giant douche to a turd sandwich though.
You don’t have to choose a favourite when none should exist
It’s a nice race to the bottom 🤷♂️
At least Bill gives away a lot of his money, and his stance on politics seems relatively sensible and measured. Whereas the South African billionaire gets a kick out of being stupid and damaging to the US (and beyond the US if you look at his comments on foreign politics).
At least Bill gives away a lot of his money
Does he? If you still control how it is spent, are you really giving it away?
He spends quite big sums on healthcare I think? I’m not saying he’s a perfect guy. Maybe the world would be better if taxes were such that nobody could be a billionaire. I just think I prefer Bill Gates to other billionaires, especially the prominent South African one.
He blocked Oxford university from open sourcing it’s covid vaccine so that his other vaccine investments paid off.
If you still control how it is spent, are you really giving it away?
Actually yeah. You can’t just give a billion to an organization. Most of the organizations that receive money have the capacity to handle millions at most. Anything above that would just sit on their bank accounts because they’d have to scale up massively.
The amount of money the Gates Foundation is handling requires so much managing that they have 2000 employees.
I suggest to read up on what they are actually doing:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gates_Foundation
- https://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/committed-grants
It’s quite altruistic in nature.
Giving it away allows other people to decide what to do with it.
Gates is in full control of what he “gives” away.
I literally explained why it is set up like that. Except for the part where they use money of the foundation to make more money for the foundation.
Gates is in full control of what he “gives” away.
And rightfully so. The foundation is always looking for organizations to give grants to. You can’t just give it all away randomly. To give away so much money you need to put it somewhere where it can be distributed fairly. Which is exactly what the foundation is doing.
The only real argument you can have against Gates is whether or not he should be giving even more. But that is not the best argument because he still is giving away much more than people more wealthy as him.
Not surprising given that Cascade Investments controls both the foundation and Bill’s personal portfolio.
Why are you choosing favorites?
I know what they mean. Id definitely love to see him in some kind of death match.
Well, okay, if that’s upper class then what size ranches do middle class people buy for their kids’ graduation?
You crazy LEGO is crazy expensive!
Mattel brand. Less cost on maintenance also.
They mean billionaire middleclass.
I think they actually do. $16 million is like weekend money for them, I’m guessing
They don’t even spend that money, as is all billionaire spending. They borrow against their assets and profit enough to pay back the loan so they literally don’t spend money by using that credit line to buy more assets. Gates, bezos, musk, etc. depending on their market situation they could literally take a piss and be 16 million dollars richer or poorer and it wouldn’t matter.
It’s insanely broken and dangerous. If money was gravity they’d be black holes, disrupting everything in the galaxy. Someday we’ll all be gone, and all that’s left will be one self-important machine counting all the money in the world until its circuits burn out. The heat death of capitalism.
