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    172 years ago

    It’s amazing the number of tankies and overall left-nuts I’ve found on here. Figures considering the kind of people that frequent FOSS spaces

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      712 years ago

      Who gives a fuck what tankies think anyway? That’s like caring about what nazi’s think… If they disagree with you, you’re probably doing something right!

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        402 years ago

        Tankies do generally believe in things like universal healthcare and elimination of homelessness.

        Just don’t ask them how some of them were eliminated.

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          372 years ago

          Nah.

          Communists are social democrats who just haven’t heard of social democracy.

          Tankies are authoritarians who just like to masquerade under a less edgy ideology, communism in this case.

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            92 years ago

            Most of the time, tankies tell me that I’m automatically a Liberal (the bad version of the word) if I’m a Social Democrat.

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                22 years ago

                The political definition of liberal generally involves free enterprise. Social Democrats are generally trying to phase out free enterprise towards higher regulation and public good. Social Democrats seek to move society towards socialism nonviolently. That is not really a “liberal” thing by the version of that term generally used by Marxists.

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                  12 years ago

                  Social democracy is not geared towards socialism. It sounds like you’re thinking of democratic socialism.

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              52 years ago

              You know youre doing good when tankies talk shit on you. I was once DM spammed by a bunch of nazis when I talked shit about it. Fun times and makes me stay on the right lane

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                12 years ago

                Maybe you mistyped, but why on Earth would Nazis defend tankies? The most Nazi deaths in history were caused by the Soviets. Nazis foam at the mouth with rage at the thought of anything to the left of Hitler himself

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                  22 years ago

                  Sorry mate, I was unclear. The time of DMs I was referring to was when I was talking shit about nazis specifically, tankies weren’t in the vicinity of the discussion. But yeah the two are mortal enemies despite the awkward similarities between the ideologies.

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              32 years ago

              I do. But I find the concept of just “socialism” a bit boring to talk about, due to obvious reasons

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                112 years ago

                If you think any flavour of socialist “just hasn’t discovered social democracy”, then no, you don’t know what socialism is. Any socialist already knows about it, and probably believed in it once, but moved past it after learning that it’s insufficient.

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                  22 years ago

                  Uh, I think you dont know what socialism is. Read up on it. This comment tree is not about it anyway so please start another one if you want to discuss socialism. Or at least make sure you

                  A: let everyone know youre going OT

                  B: know what you are talking about.

                  Thank you

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            82 years ago

            If it’s like in my country, tankie will be used to qualify people just slightly left of hardcore liberalism…

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                102 years ago

                France. We don’t use the word tankie. But the government is calling the social-democrat parties extreme left (often adding dangerous), and often talk about them like equal or worse than the extreme right racist (bordering fascist) party.

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            This is incredibly inaccurate, Marx talks at length why Social Democracy isn’t enough and merely supports the status quo, preventing the liberation of the Proletariat.

            Communists are typically critical of Nordic Social Democracy as they can only exist due to US Military supremacy as a peacemaker (so they don’t have to have a large military budget), and economic Imperialism via corporations like Nestlé exporting shitty working conditions. Even then, they are still seeing increasing disparity.

            I’m not even a tankie, this is just basic Marx.

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              102 years ago

              Uh the nation of Finland with its tiny itsy bitsy army would like to have a word.

              Or Sweden, renowned for its centuries old tradition of US-dependency, especially their reliability on air assets to upkeep sovereignty.

              Simple as.

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                  142 years ago

                  If you have any knowledge at all from the countries in question or the world in general, you would’ve understood the sarcasm. Now you just prove you have no idea what you are talking about.

                  Finland has a massive army and Sweden is renowned for its air power. These are not secrets, but well-known facts that even slightly educational people know. Unlike you.

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                62 years ago

                I never said they had no armies, but they both spend much less than the US does as a percentage of GDP.

                Again, you can’t actually refute the points I made. Modern Nordic Social Democracy doesn’t actually solve the issues Communists take with Capitalism, it only makes the downsides slightly more bearable. It still relies on economic Imperialism to export shitty labor conditions to developing countries to poach local resources, and still generally relies on the US spending so much more on their military both percentage wise and in total.

                Your point that Communists just haven’t discovered Social Democracy is ludicrous, anyone who has spent 5 minutes reading Marx will know about Social Democracy’s issues systemically. Simply batting for the team with the highest standard of living without giving any critical thought as to why these countries have the highest standard of living is primary education level political and economic thought.

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                  52 years ago

                  I think I’m being trolled here but if you actually don’t know about the concepts of finlandization or Sweden’s neutrality I have no clue how you can keep a straight face lying

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          62 years ago

          Tankies and Nazis in the US are both vehemently anti-NATO.

          Interestingly for the complete opposite reasons. Tankies think NATO makes profit, Nazis think it’s a wasteful expense.

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    432 years ago

    I got banned from one of the communities for simply saying I thought both socialism and capitalism won’t work without more nuance and blending.

    I always figured the snowflakes were really the far right… But no, it’s both extremes, apparently.