• @[email protected]
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    224 months ago

    I’m just reading this thread and finding it hilarious how many are triggered by this. The post isn’t even saying “all men” do anything, it’s specifically pointing out a small subset of men.

      • @[email protected]
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        94 months ago

        Square or angular heads generally mean they’re venomous. Rounded heads mean non-venomous.

        That doesn’t mean non-venomous is safe. They can still bite and could transfer a bacteria. If you don’t know for sure, just keep your distance.

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          64 months ago

          I would like to point out the “generaly” here, I still would trust it more as a what is DEFINITLY venomous, not what is safe

    • @[email protected]
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      I think the point is it is one species of snake that all looks the same yet some are venomous and others are not.

      For example. What if some rattle snakes were not venomous but others, that looked exactly the same, were.

  • @[email protected]
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    604 months ago

    I understand the problem people have with men and more specifically toxic masculinity, but this gender wars bullshit only serves to further separate people. What’s the purpose of saying “men are rapists” or “men are violent”? It’s fine in the context of venting/talking with people facing similar problems, but because it entirely misses the sociological causes, it can cause people come to incorrect conclusions like “kill all men” or “all men are inherently bad because…” which essentialises their gender.

    Men aren’t inherently bad. It’s patriarchy and toxic masculinity that you should be upset at - two sides of the same coin, really.

    • Track_ShovelOP
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      64 months ago

      men aren’t inherently bad… Etc.

      Looks like you understand the intent of the original tweet.

      Not all men - but some men - and we (other men) need to start calling our the Tater-tots and the like

      • @[email protected]
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        94 months ago

        Why not say that instead of using needlessly divisive blanket statements?

        On the other hand, calling out random assholes is a good way to get punched in the face, especially as a man. People aren’t grossly misbehaving because they accidentally forgot their manners at home that evening.

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        Sure. After all the big religions start weeding out shitty members at every single level. Youd get rid of a lot of rapists that way.

  • Lad
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    74 months ago

    Red next to black, jump the fuck back. Red and yella, cuddly fella.

  • @[email protected]
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    154 months ago

    Honestly these comments are giving me hope that people are being sensible.

    Too often in leftists spaces the conversation is dominated by the loudest voices taking the most extreme black and white position. Which just pushes makes the culture war nonsense worse.

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    Guess we should fear all snakes then! Or all sharks! That hasn’t lead to extreme fear based reactions where entire populations suffered because of fear due to a portion of the population being potentially dangerous.

    The point about not knowing which one might be dangerous is a good point, but example is terrible. Use unsafe mechanical equipment or something instead.

    • @[email protected]
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      84 months ago

      I mean, pretty good advice to just treat all unknown snakes/sharks like possibly dangerous people. Give them a wide berth and try not to draw their attention. Look for a place to retreat to if things become more dangerous. Try to calmly alert others that leaving the area may be best.

      • @[email protected]
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        24 months ago

        I promise you I will always treat every shark like it might eat me (except the ones they let you play with at the aquarium, but there’s a sign there that says it’s okay.)

    • @[email protected]
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      94 months ago

      Dudes will queue to use unsafe mechanical equipment, while telling you “hold my beer”.

      • snooggums
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        54 months ago

        Set that beer on the unsafe mechanical equipment you damn amateurs!

  • @[email protected]
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    114 months ago

    I heard it stated in a skit this way:

    Person 1 “Not all men”

    Person 2 “But enough of them”

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        This doesn’t make sense as any kind of “gotcha.”

        No, that’s not an invitation to explain it. This whole post is pointless and stupid rage-bait.

        These are the kinds of mindless internet posts that have eroded our very society because it amplifies everyone’s voices equally, and not all voices are equal. There are TONS of people we wouldn’t listen to if we knew their agendas, their ages, their backgrounds or their investment in the topic.

          • @[email protected]
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            14 months ago

            I’m telling you if you’re seeing sexism behind every bush you’re not gonna get laid kid. That grass needs touching my friend.

            Fortunately I don’t need tags to know who’s who, I remember you well from around here and I know you’re terminally online and every comment you make is outrageously performative and unrealistic and you’ve been banned across half lemmy with mod history five miles long.

            You can’t add tags, so maybe just a post-it note that next time you see me say a realistic but scary take, you can just ignore it because I already have you blocked now.

    • @[email protected]
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      24 months ago

      What number is the cut off point for enough? A few dogs attack people, but I’m not sure it’s enough to fear all dogs or not. Do you have some sort of equation I can use?

      • @[email protected]
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        14 months ago

        Never said it was my take on it, I just said that’s how it was explained to me.

        But for fear of dogs, 1 usually is enough.

  • @[email protected]
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    1114 months ago

    That’d work until you happen to get a reptile enthusiast on the show that can recognize the species, at which point you just have a show of a guy completely missing the point whilst nerding out over snakes.

    • @[email protected]
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      244 months ago

      Not a reptile enthusiast, but knowledgeable enough to know a few things about them.

      A well fed snake, hell most snakes (not all, some constrictors you don’t want to fuck with) won’t see a human as food, and won’t attack unless provoked. Don’t sneak up on a snake, don’t step on a snake, don’t harass a snake and it won’t give 2 fucks about your presence.

      A venomous snake usually (there’s always an exception) has a “neck”, if you can see where it’s head ends and it’s body begins it’s more likely venomous than it’s danger noodle looking counterpart.

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        If red touches black, you’re ok, Jack.

        If red touches yellow, you’re a dead fellow.

        This aphorism only works in North America, but it is a pretty reliable way to determine the difference between a coral snake… and a milk snake, also many other kinds of similar looking, non venomous snakes.

        You may note that the milk snake has a bit more of a defined neck, head vs body seperation, than the venomous coral snake… which … would mean if you followed your rule, you may end up a dead fellow.

        Now… many, venomous snakes make some kind of an alert sound, a hiss or rattle or someother bodily mechanism of saying ‘back the fuck up’.

        But not all of them.

        … and a great many venomous snakes… well they hide in the shrubbery and tall grasses, meaning you can easily accidentally come upon one if you’re moving through brushland, or a wetland…

        You’re right that you should never intentionally sneak up on a snake… but… it is usually more like accidentally happen to be too close to one, hear the alert sound, waaay too close to be comfortable… and then you fucking freeze, try to figure out where exactly it is by your ears alone, and then very, very slowly back away untill you can’t hear the rattle anymore.

        At least thats what I did when that happened to me, and I lived, to insufferably recount the tale as I am now, lol.

        There’s… only one kind of rattlesnake in Eastern Washington state.

        And it is venomous.

        Say hello to my missed connection:

        But hey, your ‘does it have a neck’ rule works for this one!

        Too bad I never saw it, at all… its got pretty good camoflauge for the one to two feet tall grasses and shrubs it resides in.

        Snake bites are of course, overall, a very uncommon thing for most people to be worried about… but if you are regularly involved in some kind of outdoor activity, or just kinda live out in the sticks, or are renting an AirBnB out there… you should probably familiarize yourself with the local wildlife.

        As a final note, I am not any kind of snake expert at all.

        But I do know that if you are, then the actual word for that is… Herpetologist. Expert in Herpetology.

        Consult your local Herpetologist before you derp around in the badlands, lol.

        EDIT: Final addendum: Female snakes often tend be considerably more pissy, apt to warn and stike, when they are in heat.

      • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️
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        There are a lot of exceptions. Most of them, as it happens.

        Vipers have that “neck” and a wider head than their bodies. Elapids typically don’t, and can be extremely venomous. In fact, the most deadly venomous snakes in the world are elapids including cobras, taipans, and black mambas.

        Tl;dr: Rarely wise to step on snek.

    • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️
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      This entire article is an irresponsibility stupid thing to put on the internet. It lacks the asterisk of “in North America” at the top because all it contains a is a list of halfassed ways to determine if you’re looking at a viper or not, and for the most part rattlesnakes (which are pretty damn distinctive to begin with). True, many venomous snakes in North America are indeed vipers including copperheads, our several aforementioned varieties of rattlesnakes, and cottonmouths.

      But the most deadly of the snakes found in and around North America and indeed the rest of the world are not vipers; they’re elapids or colubrids, which display few or none of these alleged telltales.

      For instance, here is a coral snake which is an elapid and one of the few snakes you’ll encounter in the continental US that can absolutely kill you stone dead with its neurotoxic venom.

      Take note of the:

      • Lack of triangular head
      • Round pupils
      • Fangs not visible
      • No rattle
      • Banded pattern
      • Fairly blunt tail

      …And it also has at least two very similar lookalikes which are not dangerous to humans, namely the milk snake and the kingsnake. So, are you absolutely sure which one you’re looking at before you touch it? A better idea is, don’t touch it.

      And outside of North America this is even worse advice because the rest of the world is absolutely rotten with deadly non-viperid snakes.

      • @[email protected]
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        74 months ago

        Apart from the coloration this could just as well be a simple corn snake, which are absolutely harmless. Despite having owned (mildly venomous) snakes myself for years I still wouldn’t touch any wild specimen without adequate protection.

  • @[email protected]
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    124 months ago

    Flip it around.

    Dating show where the men have a one in six chance of being hooked up with a psychotic.

    Now watch the guys who’d line up for a chance to be on the show.