• @[email protected]
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      Omg is this the joke? Chalk in milk? So it took me 30 years to actually understand this Simpsons joke?

      The golden years writers were so genius.

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        I thought the R was because it was from rats, and malk because they didn’t want it to be tested like milk is (it’s just a drink not milk, aye?) but maybe I’m not remembering the episode correctly.

  • JackbyDev
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    Safety regulations are written in the blood of those who died from unsafe practices.

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      Love the cover:
      The Jungle Upton Sinclair

      [Incidentally and entirely off-topic, it reminds me of the book(s) I’m reading right now: Josiah Bancroft’s Tower of Babel tetralogy - urban steampunk jungle, vertically]

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      Not sure if you intended this, but you can absolutely get what you wrote to work with the timing (and same rhyme sounds/pattern, basically) of the first few lyrics of Guns N Roses ‘Welcome to the Jungle’, with minor modifications.

      Welcome to the Jungle,

      where we play dirty games.

      Food safety sure costs a lot,

      so fuck the FDA.

      We are the people who hate fines,

      Whatever they may be.

      If you got no money, honey,

      We got your disease.

      etc.

      (Wonderful that some of the lyrics don’t have to change at all, nor really the chorus, yay internal bleeding.)

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        It gives “Watch it bring it to your n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n knees, knees” an entirety different context! 🤮

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          I mean… the original song’s use of that phrase arguably references a woman basically being forced to give bjs to her dealer in order to get drugs she’s now addicted to…

          All of this is terrible!

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            Sad thing, that original song would still apply - but now for safe baby food, carrots, or maybe a sack of flour. A lot of people are going to do things that they never expected to do.

            We are going to live an cursed existence. 💩

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      Fun fact:

      The precursor to the FDA was created during Theodore Roosevelt’s administration. After the book was published, Roosevelt sent federal investigators to the Chicago slaughterhouses to validate the conditions detailed in the story.

      The investigators reported that the conditions were worse than described in the book. And that was after the slaughterhouse owners got wind that the feds were coming and had everything cleaned from top to bottom.

      Hard to imagine what “worse” looks like because the conditions detailed in the book are truly appalling.

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        Additional fun fact, The Jungle was meant to highlight the poor working conditions in slaughter houses, but the outrage was related entirely to the poor consideration for the meat that the public was eating.

  • magnetosphere
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    Whenever a corporation does something good (for example, make a charitable donation) rest assured it’s been calculated that the positive PR will make it financially worthwhile.

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        It decreases your tax burden in the same way that giving away all of your money to charity decreases your tax burden.

        And in case people need it cleared up: Donating at a register during checkout also does not help the company on their taxes. Its the same as you donating individually except they get the PR for it.

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          Them getting the PR for it is a financial inventive (future sales) even if it doesn’t save them money on their annual balance sheets. It is comparable to advertising.

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            Yep but honestly I still don’t think the benefit matches what they spend. Especially true since they often match donations or make their own large donations.

            And after all, if they’re helping money go to charity by advertising it to their customers, I’m fine with them getting a little benefit in return.

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          I hate it when a store asks me to donate at the register. I’m probably spending more than I want to anyway, and I’m sure the store has a bigger budget than I do. I’m like “fuck off, stop guilt tripping me, and donate yourself.”

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        That’s a wild misrepresentation of how write-offs work.

        If your tax rate is 30% and you make write off a charitable donation of $100, your tax bill goes down $30. Spending 100 dollars to save 30 isn’t the key to riches.

        There’s no way to save money through charitable donations.

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          How is that a misrepresentation? You justified what I said.

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            The implication was that they make donations for the write-offs. That’s not accurate, because it’s never cheaper to make a donation and write it off than it is to just pay the taxes.

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              Not quite never. You just need the tax rate plus marginal change in lost benefits/increased obligations to exceed 100%. For example there’s a breakpoint in the UK around childcare over 100k income that makes it way worth salary sacrificing to get below if you have kids. I can imagine there are similar niche things for small businesses around audit requirements or whatever, but not enough of an expert to know.

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    One thing people forget is that it was Big Food that wanted regulations.

    After the book came out, it was almost impossible for American companies to sell their products overseas. Teddy knew that slapping a government label attesting to quality would mean that American companies would be able to make big profits.

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        Well, it could in the long ago past, but we’ve outgrown the need for things like regulations, Unions, privacy…

        No /s, because that’s what MAGats are already saying.

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      This is why I am hoping Canadian and Mexican food standards may save us yet

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      The U.S. won’t need regulations once the last of its trade partners gives up on it. We’ll be free to eat all the domestic lead and asbestos our dear masters deem necessary to feed us.

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    This is why I’ve been trying to point out that the ground swell around raw milk seems to have less to do with any critiques of pasteurization (there are no good critiques) and more to do with the fact that if pasteurization isn’t mandated as the only way to make milk safe to drink, corporations will seek cheaper options, like mixing raw milk with formaldehyde…

    Relevant article

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      But if no one FDA checking anything don’t we have to worry about getting milk that says its pasteurized, but actually has an emulsifier and some poison in it?

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    My favourite was hot dog and sausage vendors in big US cities, especially New York, in the early 1900s … they would take semi rancid meat, mix it with lye or some chemical to reduce the stench and bacteria, then mix it with red food colouring … a good batch was known as a mix that didn’t make that many people sick.

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      The death and exploitation of the majority is inherent in Capitalism. For the few benefits of such a heinous system of greed as Capitalism to outweigh the overwhelming harm of the system, a strict regulatory system is essential, with real penalties exacted for violating them.

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      it seems they need to be rewritten in blood … because people are so contrarian and formed social relationships based on questioning the basics and not understanding the answers.

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    Damn, just five minutes ago I saw this link shared in another thread:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swill_milk_scandal

    🤢🤮

    It took us well over a century to establish some sort of framework that makes such horrors almost impossible, but no, regulations are bad 🙄

    Same for workers btw. And cows. It’s not just about food security. That’s just easier to sell to a thoroughly egoistic constituency.

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      There were no regulations that couldn’t ever n made unrefrigerated raw milk safe in cities at the time. You either sold milk from cows raised in the city itself(which means cramped quarters and disease) or carted it in on a wagon (which means unrefrigerated milk sitting for hours). Adding formalin likely made it safer, it was so dangerous. The scandal thing played like it was what they were feeding cows (we feed cows high protein spent grains today and it’s considered high quality feed), but the reality was milk in cities was always insane.

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    Everyone who wants to remove food regulations should just be shot. I’m so tired of these absolute fools that slept through 10th grade history trying to take us back to the gilded age.

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      As someone who works in materials/workplace safety, I can absolutely vouch that there are stupid regulations that should be scrapped. I have no doubt there are stupid regulations in food-safety, because there are stupid regulations everywhere. Recently here in the Netherlands we changed regulations for toxic residu in soil to distinguish between “Things that are bad for plants and animals” and “Things that are bad for humans”. That made things more complex, but it also means you don’t have to wear a hazmat suit to protect yourself from a dose of zink that’s roughly equal to a multivitamin a day (which, funfact, will absolutely murder fish).

      But you know who shouldn’t get to decide which regulations are stupid? The people who stand to make money off of scrapping regulations.

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      It wasn’t even just 10th grade… I learned about this shit in grade school, then again in civics class in Jr. High. Then again in American History in high school. Anyone who doesn’t understand the risks here shouldn’t be allowed outside by themselves.

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      Just give them a state, ship them all there and build a wall around it. Like some sort of big libertarian hunger games.

  • Ms. ArmoredThirteen
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    It was so much worse than just chalk. Additives included plaster of Paris, lead, cow brain, and fucking formaldehyde

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      Formaldehyde is natural, or bodies make some of it so it’s fine /s