Inception bitch!
Well other than politics reddit is quite good. It’s the best for asking stuff about unis, degrees and jobs
Which part is your favourite? The ads every few posts, the lack of meaningful discussion, or the constant barrage of notifications with no purpose?
Well I used to have good posts on my feed because I built my algo that way
I have reddit turned shit in the recent years. And they even banned for saying my country needs gender neutral laws. so yeah I guess overall it’s bad
No it isn’t. You can’t talk freely in there at all without being banned.
Being banned for saying your opinion is the worst part
I was banned for saying my country needs gender neutral laws
I think OP means “the mediocre, least bad intersection between critical mass and topical discussion.”
Like, you can probably find users/subs about universities/fields and actually find people in them to respond. Lemmy is great, but good luck finding a mass of discussion around a niche location/field.
Reddit is horrible and deteriorating, yes, but still.
Yeah that’s what I meant
have you ever seen Lemmy
ON WEEEEEEED
There’s some weird shit going on, man. Beans flying everywhere, dudes who don’t want to shit for 3 days. Who’s that sending pictures of dead girls to everyone? I don’t know! Mod team, go! Mod team, go!
Cats and dogs, living together!
No shit for 3 days? That’s amateur numbers! There was that guy on Reddit that didn’t go for a month and a half and had to get unclogged at the hospital!
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you sayin’ them reddit0rs… is full of shit?
Bro, I’ve been high basically every fucking day for the last 5 years for sure but we’re getting on a decade here.
There isn’t much shit I haven’t tried on weed because raw dawgging this timeline is a guaranteed shotgun slurpee.
Bro I’m one week into a tbreak and it’s painful
love me some half-baked
Surprisingly, no. I should do that sometime. The only time I’ve been high in the last… forever, I drank a THC bev and went through a game bundle I bought, started up Cow Life Sim RPG and ended up playing it all day. It’s an insanely amazing game for what I expected was a shitpost game. Pterry4lyfe
Lmao well I found this place cause they won’t let me on Reddit anymore. They didn’t appreciate my colourful thoughts on Musk.
Honestly you could get banned for upvoting someone who stated someone seemed agitated and should try following dear leaders advice and take a shot of ivermecrin, a shot of bleach, and take a nap.
Watching reddits fall over the span of 12 years was certainly a thing.
There are many communities still on reddit for which there are no alternatives on lemmy as of yet and if you want it to surpass reddit you need to stop with the toxic attitude and the false sense of superiority especially since a lot of the content on this platform is just reposts from 4chan, x, reddit. If curious folk come here and all they see is toxic threads and reposts why would they stay here? This is mostly in response to the comments I’ve seen on here not the thread itself.
Where’s the aggression? You want to talk online respectfully, you can do that here apparently, but not there. I haven’t seen it yet… There is a paucity of communities though, NGL. I’ll practice patience.
Lemmy’s biggest problem is how aggressive and uncompromising the people can be.
Lol yeah we haven’t heard that before
Really? I’ve seen Lemmings are much more competent, way higher debate ability, far less disinformation. Also I’ve seen this 10x so far in a month: “sorry, you’re right”. Almost never saw that on Reddit. And I’ve had to say it many times too.
Then we are having different experiences here because I see a lot of extremely flawed understandings of political philosophy and basic/entry level economics.
you been arguing with tankies?
There are geniuses on all sides, I feel its just different priorities and perspectives, not to say they are all geniuses. At least here you can discuss the merits of Austrian economics for instance.
Those that find a lot of merit in Austrian economics would be a great example of the type of people Im talking about were they more common here. Im not seeing a lot of them around
I’m not saying there’s a lot, just a lot more than Reddit.
Reddit has several subs for discussing Austrianism last I checked.
Well, the smart people left Reddit.
especially the anti-toxicity people
Sweet, are Advice Animals back?
Wait, what’s wrong with Lemmy?
If you know you know
I mean, I presume… I don’t know, so I don’t know
It insists upon itself. /s
The main devs are tankies. That’s all I’m aware of.
I mean even if they are, the software is open source and lemmy is made to work with ActivityPup, an open protocol. That is what matters at the end of the day.
ActivityPup
Who’s a good boy? Now go fetch that remote content and you’ll get a treat!
ahaha, I cant even correct that, it feels wrong
Oh I know, that’s why I kind of shrug it off.
This is what’s insane to me.
Option 1: locked software owned by billionaires who can control the narrative and remove anything they don’t like
Option 2: open-source software anybody can use, coded by people with extreme opinions
It’s pretty clear which one is superior
People don’t actually want to engage with different opinions
It’s me, I’m the problem… (Sorry I’m old and couldn’t help it)
Sorry I’m old
Anti-hero was only 3 years ago…
But old people like me quote cliches with wreckless abandoned. And don’t feel guilty about at all.
If you’re still using the Internet in any capacity…
If you’re still using written word…
If you still are
Don’t we still have a few years before lemmy somehow enshittifies?
The fact that this is being upvoted so much I think demonstrates a big misunderstanding of how the fediverse works.
Nobody owns Lemmy and if a instance does something shitty it costs hardly anything to change instances. Nobody owns the lemmy software, and other softwares like mbin/piefed exist too with the same content.
It’d be pretty difficult, any instances that start that shit would be defederated with a quickness, but I don’t want to be too optimistic lol
It’s impossible by design. If an instance enshittifies people will just leave the instance.
if .world says being a minor is bannable suddenly there’s no minors anywhere on Lemmy. A minor example that is understandable, sure, but it’s just to show that a single large instance can cause a lot of change if they decide to.
Lemmy.world is the second largest Lemmy instance, and less than a third of all users. If someone doesn’t like their rules it is trivial for a person to move to an instance who’s ruleset better aligns with their wishes.
it is trivial for a person to move to an instance who’s ruleset better aligns with their wishes
How?
Can I just move my existing account to a different instance? Or do I need to create a new account on another instance?
With Mastodon you can migrate your account, Lemmy can’t migrate (yet). But the difference between Fediverse and commercial platforms is that you can access the same network of content from different instances. With Twitter/Reddit etc. everyone is forced onto a single instance (and a single moderation policy).
perhaps you aren’t aware of how many instances there are that have much looser rules
But I don’t think that’s true at all.
I haven’t seen anyone share their age that’s less than 18 since that change 🤷♀️
I hadn’t seen that before the change? I didn’t even know there was one.
that’s a fair point lol, good talking to ya!
The protocol itself could surely start its journey if enshittification? In which case different, possibly incompatible, branches would spawn fragmenting the Lemmy space. Still miles better than the whole thing burning to the ground. But with no shareholders looming around (yet) we can hope it won’t come to that.
I don’t see how, it’s covered by a good license, and if it did it’d be forked in an instant. Can you give a historical example?
I guess the closest I know of is Maps.me and Organic Maps? Maps.me was open source, but got purchased and enshittified, so Organic Maps was forked from it. And now there is some drama with the Organic Maps shareholders/co-founders, so unless that is (or has it already been?) sorted out we’re likely to see another fork of it.
Please correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t the main dev(s) members of lemmy.ml? So I can certainly see how differing political views could skew the development of the main branch of Lemmy.
The organic maps founders seem to have convinced the volunteers that a private company would be best to manage an open source project. The community got duped hard.
I agree. And luckily for Lemmy and all other FOSS projects the worst that can happen is a fork of the project is created with a potentially fractured community.
That’s a bad example because it got forked and it wasn’t an actual problem?
Please correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t the main dev(s) members of lemmy.ml[3]? So I can certainly see how differing political views could skew the development of the main branch of Lemmy.
People say this all the time but never can give even one example of a potential problem. Preemptive forking sounds insane to me. The notion that lemmy might enshittify because you don’t like their politics is also ridiculous when their politics are anti-capitalist… aka the politics that are least likely to enshittify.
But that’s exactly what I said in the beginning. The worst that can happen is the original creators take the project in an undesired direction so a fork is created.
Isn’t that the exact same argument for Twitter? If Twitter gets shitty, people will just leave? Because I feel like we’re not really seeing that.
Millions of people have left Twitter, wtf are you talking about?
No because Twitter is a walled ecosystem, you can’t move to Bluesky and interact with people on twitter for example.
With federated stuff you can move and still interact with people on other instances.
You’re telling me you can’t cross post links from Twitter to Bluesky and vis versa?
Sure you can, but I can’t follow someone on twitter or bluesky from other platforms.
Links in the bio?
That works as a specific action type thing, but I’d have to remember to go check every person I follow. Also without an account twitter doesn’t really let you do much, and sometimes completely blocks me from seeing a post.
There is only one Twitter whereas anyone can start “a Lemmy” (instance). I am using a different instance than you, for example. So if mine enshittifies I can go somewhere else and still have access to the broader network.
No, not at all, twitter is not decentralized, with a lemmy instance, if you leave, you lose nothing at all. With twitter, you can’t take the content or your account
Not quite accurate. If you leave an instance, you do lose any posts or comments you had. Not a big loss, but there is that sense of investment in an account and reputation.
Not really though, you can still see them from the other account, so meh
It’s entirely possible in the future, since ActivityPub accounts can be “forwarded”. It’s a little clunky but look at Mastodon.
Not really. It’s not a centralized platform by design - unless you’re talking about the flagship instances, which are a common problem with federated projects
I don’t want to be part of a problem. I want to be the whole problem
Apparently if you want to do that you have to buy Twitter
Oh no!
I’m still on Lemmy!
/s
What if I’m on drugs?
That’s fine, you’re supported by a problem
Its true. I have friends still using it and they can’t seem to break free. I used Reddit since its inception, but left it immediately during the api-pocolypse and never looked back. I did the same with Proton when the CEO praised the GOP. I have no loyalties to tech companies.
I’ve been trying to break free from Reddit ever since the api-pocalypse and subsequent ai-pocalypse. I mostly found my home on Tumblr for a while but it’s taken a long time to find replacements for some things.
I will die on this hill - the Proton CEO was right when he praised GOP in the context of the time, and situation.
The situation was: GOP accidentally* going against Big Tech and pro-citizens, while Democrats were defending Big Tech (just to be in opposition-by-default to GOP). Specifically, the CEO’s tweet was about how Trump nominating a fairly loudly outspoken anti-Big Tech person to a very high position in the DOJ was a good thing.
The time was: just before Trump 2 took office and showed what a shit-show his admin, and GOP have become.
The guy was ONLY talking about Big Tech and anti-trust policies nothing else. He never said “GOP is good for the US” or “GOP is good for the world”, he said “GOP are doing a bunch of anti-trust and anti-Big Tech moves right now and it’s good”.
People dropping Proton for this reason are the epitome of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
* it was because Trump was throwing a hissy fit at Meta and Twitter for allowing people to express anti-Trump opinions.
The problem with this, is if he was paying attention AT ALL, it’d be clear that the republican stance “against big tech” was always a lie. The fact he just bought their BS is enough for me to not trust the company.
The problem with this, is if he was paying attention AT ALL, it’d be clear that the republican stance “against big tech” was always a lie.
Nobody ever suggested otherwise. I specifically mentioned that myself.
The fact he just bought their BS is enough for me to not trust the company.
He didn’t “buy” anything. He didn’t become a Republican, WTF are you people talking about? He literally said, that at the time GOP was more anti-Big Tech and pro-consumer than the Democrats and that a specific appointment was a good choice.
Since when does stating facts mean you’re “buying someone’s BS”?
It’s a common way to say someone was dupes by something, “they bought it” meaning they fell for it.
The point being GOP was only anti big-tech in rhetoric, there was antitrust brought under the Biden admin. https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2024/10/02/biden-ftc-antitrust-regulation-consumers-tech-pharma
He is either lying, or not paying attention.
It’s a common way to say someone was dupes by something, “they bought it” meaning they fell for it.
Mate, are you OK? I know what the phrase means and I’m struggling to see which part of my reply gave you the impression otherwise…
there was antitrust brought under the Biden admin. [link]
What is your argument here, exactly? That Trump appointing an anti-Big Tech person to lead the anti-trust section of the DOJ was… a bad thing… because Biden did stuff for anti-trust…? Hmm?
The point being GOP was only anti big-tech in rhetoric (…) He is either lying, or not paying attention.
Sigh…
Don’t take it the wrong way, it’s not an attack, just a statement of fact: people like you are the reason democracy is failing.
In most countries democracy has a 4-year turnover. One party comes in, says “we’ll do X”, gets to do their thing for four years, and then… It turns out that “X” takes 6 years to implement so people like you go “they lied to us, they didn’t do X!”. Now, the other party sees that and says “oh, trust us, we’ll do Y” and “Y” is a bullshit non-issue or a non-solution to an actual issue, but it only takes 3 years to implement, which gives them a nice boost and a potential for re-election.
This creates a vicious cycle of parties becoming more and more populist, saying they’ll “solve poverty by increasing minimum wage” (where the actual solution is massive changes in regulation and policy that would take a decade to implement), or “kick out immigrants to give back jobs to true XYZ” (where “true XYZ” don’t want to do the jobs that immigrants take, and the solution, again, would be proper regulatory (and executive!) action, but that takes a decade or two to implement). Etc., etc.
Now, back to the point - yes, you’re right. A lot of stuff happened during Biden’s tenure. But A LOT of that stuff was started by Trump’s administration, or the actions of the Trump administration opened the doors for a lot of what Biden did.
Here’s a list of some of it:
DOJ Antitrust Lawsuit Against Google (2020)- Focused on Google’s deals with Apple and others to maintain default search engine status, thus harming competitors.
FTC Antitrust Lawsuit Against Facebook (December 2020)- To potentially break up Facebook by forcing it to divest those companies.
DOJ Antitrust Review of Big Tech (2019)- Laid groundwork for later actions, like the 2020 Google lawsuit.
FTC Tech Task Force (2019)- Re-examined acquisitions like Facebook’s of Instagram and WhatsApp.
Trump’s Executive Order on Section 230 (May 2020) to weaken legal protections that shield social media platforms from liability over user content and moderation decisions. - didn’t get much done as actual change would require Congressional action. But it intensified scrutiny of Big Tech.
Other indirect actions: Trump supported conservative-led Congressional hearings and investigations into Big Tech’s political power and influence or pushed the idea that companies like Amazon were harming small businesses and exploiting USPS
I didn’t have the energy to reply then, and I still don’t now.
You seem to misunderstand and assume my intentions and thoughts and it’d take a lot to unravel so I won’t.
That’s why i left too though I only did it recently bc the app i used only stopped working like a month or two ago.
they are here now
So what’s the alternative to Lemmy? IRC? It seems like every social media platform has problems.
I’m a big fan of IRL, personally.
I didn’t think about that one, I’ll have to check it out later
Literally dangerous for targeted groups to do that…
Which is why groups that aren’t targeted should be out there being supportive IRL and making it safer for targeted groups. Strength in numbers.
