Luigi Mangione is accused of stalking United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson and shooting him to death on Dec. 4, 2024.

  • @[email protected]
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    272 months ago

    Does the public have any information on the evidence they have that he did it? What I have read about all sounds like a weak case with what I suspect is a mountain of inadmissible evidence gathered by methods outside of laws that would apply to the non elite class.

    • @[email protected]
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      32 months ago

      It is an extremely weak case. He is unidentifiable by the video, which is their best evidence by far, and any physical evidence is suspect in multiple ways, due to police corruption and corporate/ oligarch pressure. It should be very easy to sow reasonable doubt.

      • @[email protected]
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        42 months ago

        plus having mayor andams escorting them in a perp walk for brownie points to get trumps attention isnt helping the prosecutors case.

        • @[email protected]
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          22 months ago

          That probably won’t matter to the actual court case, but it was a symbol that the “System” was going to do everything they can to get this guy. It was an attempt to send a message to the citizens, poor and rich alike, that an attack on the rich would not be tolerated. It was supposed to influence public opinion, and the jury pool.

          But it backfired spectacularly. The first time i saw that photo, it had a caption like “Jesus is accompanied by Roman Soldiers to his crucifixion.” That was NOT the message they were trying to send.

  • ssillyssadass
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    72 months ago

    I mean, the only other option is to plead guilty, and nobody would do that. So this was kind of expected.

  • Anas
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    282 months ago

    He can’t have done it, I saw him on the day and I don’t live in the US. He’s telling the truth.

  • Leon
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    532 months ago

    Yeah that tracks. He was walking my dough at the time.

  • @[email protected]
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    752 months ago

    That kid didn’t do it. They are railroading him too hard and committing too many procedural violations for it to be anything but a setup.

    Any normal case a judge would throw everything out for how prejudicial the state has behaved.

    The face they don’t care how blatantly prejudicial they are shows they don’t care if he did it or not.

    He didn’t do it.

    The CEOs wife had hmm killed for meeting his side piece there.

    The assassin was from El Salvador or something.

    • @[email protected]
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      112 months ago

      All the photos look exactly like him tho… I mean is there is substantial evidence he didn’t do it? I fully support him, but I think it’s a stretch to say he was framed and the photos look nothing alike

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        202 months ago

        Dude has a familiar face. There are tons of people that look “just like” those fuzzy videos and pics

        • @[email protected]
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          132 months ago

          Could those photos be ai generated?

          The only way we can be reasonably sure they are not is if we believe the prosecution is honoring their commitment to the constitution and acting in good faith.

          I do not believe they are acting in good faith.

          This means I have reasonable doubt on their entire effort.

          Justice is dead.

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        2 months ago

        I think most of the people are pretty sure he did it. It’s just that the “it wasn’t him” defense is popular amongst the people that think vigilante justice should allow for legalized murder.

        If he actually did it, he should rot in jail like any other murderer. If it can be proven that he didn’t, he didn’t he should walk free. That’s how it should be. That is how civilized people work.

        And the people that think he should walk even if he did kill a man- just because of who that man is, they have become the very thing they hate.

        If only they would take a moment to understand this.

        • @[email protected]
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          72 months ago

          If he actually did it, he should rot in jail like any other murderer. If it can be proven that he didn’t, he didn’t he should walk free. That’s how it should be. That is how civilized people work.

          I think you got it a little mixed up. The state needs to have it proven that he did in fact commit that murder, and not leave any doubt about it. It’s really not his job to prove anything, let alone that you can’t prove innocence in a lot of cases.

          • @[email protected]
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            12 months ago

            Either way it doesn’t matter. The point is- if it is proven that he did it, he should rot. If it is found that he didn’t, he should walk.

            That’s how a justice system is supposed to work.

            We don’t decide who’s guilty or not based on how we feel about the victim.

            • @[email protected]
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              12 months ago

              By your very own argument, you are highlighting the important part that you are missing. What if the justice system finds out it doesn’t know. Justice is not boolean.

              • @[email protected]
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                12 months ago

                IF HE DID IT, HE SHOULD ROT. IF HE DIDN’T, HE SHOULD WALK.

                Does every concept of every idea need to be explained around here? It’s a given in the above statement that if he can’t be found guilty- he should walk. Why does this need to be argued?

                My fucking god people need everything spelled out around here. For fuck’s sake.

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              2 months ago

              If the state can prove that he undoubtedly did it, he should be punished.

              If the state’s case is weak enough to leave some lingering doubts, he should walk.

              The defense doesn’t have to prove anything. Their job is to cast doubt on whatever the state claims.

              That’s how our justice system works.

              • @[email protected]
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                12 months ago

                Either way it doesn’t matter. If he did it, he should rot. If he didn’t- He should walk.

                Why is this difficult for you to understand.

      • @[email protected]
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        382 months ago

        Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt

        The misuse of evidence and the lead detective and mayor sharing evidence his lawyer hasn’t seen in a media campaign to impugn the man.

        There’s reasonable doubt in their earnest attempt at seeking justice here. They seem hellbent on violating his constitutional rights.

        I doubt they have the right guy. Reasonably

      • Sigilos
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        There shouldn’t need to be evidence of his innocence, there should need to be an overwhelming amount of evidence proving he’s guilty. That’s part of the foundation for justice that courts are meant to uphold.

        Edit: mistype for spelling

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        2 months ago

        Are any of the photos from the crime scene?

        Because if you find a guy who matches “photo of guy getting coffee”, you still don’t have evidence that he’s a killer. You have evidence that he got some coffee.

  • mechoman444
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    302 months ago

    He should be acquitted specifically to make a point. A certain type of individual may or may not be safe if said person performs against the interest of their constituents.