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Copilot+ PCs have specific hardware requirements beyond the ones necessary to run Windows 11. The most significant is the requirement for a neural processing unit (NPU) that can process more than 40 trillion operations per second (TOPS).
So in other words, copilot will be a huge enormous waste of electricity as it’s continuously training some shitty AI. Gottit.
This comment is critical of Microsoft because the company name was mentioned in the article.
Naive
Welp… Linux it is, then
Nahh bro just use third party script then re run it every update 🤡
That’s literally what Linux updates are
Anyway if you read the article it’s opt in and fully removable.
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Till they change their mind again. Ms in my experience also really like to disregard your settings
Not as bad as google, but yeah they have a tendency to overstep. The only way to make settings stick is the traditional way, which is the group policy editor. Settings there usually stick for 20-30 years
Normally they’d say this and then change it again. That’s pretty much how every “feature” they’ve added to their OS and it is becoming a little too bloaty.
They update, this third party script is to make windows less rapey
Tell me you’re a young man without telling me you’re a young man.
I wish haha
Well if you’re in fact a woman or x, very unexpected. The vast majority of women either have been raped or know someone close to them who has been raped, and would not compare anything Microsoft is doing to raping a person. It boggles the mind.
If you’re in fact an older man, you should grow up and do better, and stop comparing Microsoft sending some innocuous telemetry to sexual assault.
Thank you for your input but I will continue comparing mega corpo behvior to sexual assault because it an illustrative analogy.
Cheers ;)
Updates in Linux are not random third party scripts you find online, why are you spreading this lie?
You go into your app store/software centre and click update. To the user, this is all they see.
If you want to feel like a hacker, or find it quicker, you can open a terminal run sudo dnf update or whatever. That’s still not a random third party script, though.
Lol you’re arguing like you’re an expert but only providing instructions for… what, fedora and rhel? And saying that running your package manager from the command line is to “feel like a hacker?” What a laugh. Fun fact there’s a range of distros that don’t have proper UIs for their package manager, and the vast majority don’t use dnf.
What exactly do you think is inside of those packages? Who made those scripts? You’re running those scripts as root. Is that safe?
0/10 bait
Bait…at what? What exactly do you think I want from the person I’m responding to other than to make fun of their delusions? I suppose you’re saying it’s not good bait, which Id agree with.
Do you know what is in every script you run as root?
-1/10 bait
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I’m just telling you the facts.
but only providing instructions for… what, fedora and rhel?
Yes, what, did you want me to provide instructions for everything under the sun? Look at what I wrote, I said “or whatever”, I.e. or the equivalent commands on another distro.
And saying that running your package manager from the command line is to “feel like a hacker?”
Lmao you’re just confirming you’re trying to bait people here.
Fun fact there’s a range of distros that don’t have proper UIs for their package manager
Ok? What’s your point? You’d only install a distro that leans heavily on the terminal if you’re the kind of person who wants to rely on the terminal. I don’t even know what point you’re trying to make lmao
What exactly do you think is inside of those packages?
It varies. But regardless, that’s a colossally stupid point. Installing random .exe files you find online also executes scripts.
The point you made was that on Linux the way you install programs is to go online and run random scripts. That is objectively a lie, and now you’re backpedaling away from that point.
And you know, Flatpaks do exist and are the standard now.
We live in weird age, where using Windows is becoming harder than Linux (even though it has its own issues).
We’ve been there for a long time.
Broadly speaking, outside of some specific niche workflows, Linux has been pretty easy for a long time, and Windows has a lot of unintuitive stuff that we only think is easy because we’re used to it.
Linux and Windows certainly both have their failings, but it feels like Linux’s generally stem from the lack of full time developers on projects, whereas failings in Windows often feel like a deliberate user-hostile choice.
If only CS2 ran better on linux 😔
CS2
It has a native linux client: https://x0.at/I1ZV.png
I always “Recall” how shitty windows is, whenever I see the word mentioned.
every linux user: Oh no…well anyway
It is good to use linux. But this has an impact on everyone to some degree. You may use Linux, but does your family, friends, your doctor, your teacher or boss, and whoever else who has some of your personal data?
You do bring a good point. Every doctor will havemy phone number on file and recall will screen shot that. I cant do anything to stop that. Same with every other piece of data.
At least my doctor won’t have screen shot of everything, web page, picture, word doc, friends lists, political news, I view on screen.
Someone will have vital information stolen from a recall hack on a 3rd party
My data being in the hands of a 3rd party at all is arguably a larger risk than said 3rd party running Windows. No single individual can control what OS any particular 3rd party runs, and if you hand data over to a 3rd party, at some point you have to trust them. If you don’t trust them, find someone you can trust.
Don’t make everyone else’s choice of OS my problem.
Tbh I’d pay money for a foss alternative here. There are smart systems in KDE and Gnome already but if it could recall exact details on free software it would be awesome.
You can install key and screen loggers if you want. Could even setup offsite backup and rclone it all wherever you want.
laughs in Linux
There’s nothing to laugh about. The maniacally evil thing about recall is, that it doesn’t matter what you do to keep your devices clean. If you interact with someone who doesn’t keep his devices clean, which is 100% of us, you’re on recall
Good thing I have no friends to interact with then! Take that, Microsoft!
My windows10 install still asks me to complete the setup…lol no
Get recalled
Would be interesting to see how microsoft kills windows in the long term and then be shocked as to how this happened
Kind of like how they fucked up and let zoom become the pandemic program everyone used despite skype being so established it had already become a verb like google? M$ really racking up those wins recently
Zoom was so bad, too. It was so unreliable, it was missing basic features, the UI was unfriendly.
They’ve improved on each of these things slightly since then.
But it’s a testament to how bad Skype was that Zoom was found to be preferable.Or the windows phone too
Zoom was already everywhere in the business world before the pandemic.
Seems like Skype was only for personal users who were not very techy and wanted to make free calls overseas.
Yeah Skype was already dead by then and when normies wanted to start using video calls on the reg, they ended up with zoom either because their work were already using it elsewhere or from being recommended by others that had that as their reason.
Install Linux already, be done with this windows nonsense
I agree. But people also need to be ready for some of the Linux bullshit brings. I’ve switched recently and it’s never 100% smooth sailing. But at least no tracking and proprietary bullshit.
Yeah, this can be an unpopular opinion on Lemmy, because there’s a giant Linux circlejerk. But the unfortunate reality is that changing to Linux does have some major stumbling blocks. The “switching is so easy, just do it” crowd totally glosses over it, but that’s kind of rhetoric doesn’t help long term adoption. Because if some new user has only heard “switching is so easy” and immediately runs into issues, they’ll be more likely to go “well if it’s super easy and I can’t figure it out, I guess it’s just not for me” and abandon things.
There’s also a very vocal (and toxic) part of the Linux community that basically just screams “RTFM” at every newbie question. New users shouldn’t be expected to dig into a 350 page technical document just to learn the basics of their new OS.
Yea… The biggest wtf moment was
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Logitech doesn’t have Linux drivers… I didn’t know this before switching. It’s not really Linux’s fault, but users won’t care. The fact that something as basic as a mouse and keyboard need tinkering sucks
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Nvdia drivers are wonky and buggy it took me 2h to configure my two monitor setup. Again, really not Linux’s fault, but people won’t care
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Same random bugs like suspend not working, or extern drives randomly mounting, it’s little things
So yea… I like Linux way better than Windows now, but “just switch everything works” simply isn’t true and we have to be honest.
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Bullshit like what? That most stuff just does as advertised?
Yeah, there will be technical issues here and there, but are you really going to claim widows doesn’t have technical issues?
I’ve been doing Linux desktop for over 25 years now and every time I look at windows it’s always because of some bullshit technical issue and I always have to wonder why people pay for that shit
So reading more into it, it’s (currently) only on the bogus copilot+ PCs they were peddling? I’m happily on bazzite, but this is good news for my stubborn mates that haven’t touched copilot+ shit.
Oh give it time it will appear after an update on everything else, “accidentally”.
Yeah. My entire windows machine is locked down specifically to combat the copilot ms365 plague. I’m also using Bazzite and generally loving it. But I have a work machine for work things and some of my programs require windows to work.
I would not count on them telling the truth.
I checked my Windows 11 work laptop a while ago, and that shit was enabled. Did not see that in any UI, but using command line. Said that shit was enabled and active, but apparently it was not yet doing anything. I will have to check again next time I am firing that machine up again, because I absolutely trust them to re-enable it without my consent, those bottom-feeding scum suckers.
Obligatory info on how to check and disable recall in Windows 11:
- Click on the Start button with the right mouse button and select “Terminal (Administrator)” or “Windows PowerShell (Administrator)”, or if necessary log in as administrator and confirm.
- In the Terminal or PowerShell, enter the command
DISM /Online /Get-FeatureInfo /FeatureName:Recalland press the Enter key. - If the entry “Enabled” appears next to “State”, the recall function is already activated. In this case, the function can be disabled using the command
DISM /Online /Disable-Feature /FeatureName:Recall - Close the window.
From this page.
Thank you for this, valuable info right there.
In 2005 Windows was like 95% of the desktop/laptop market. Today it’s 70-75%. Since then mobile phones usurped a lot of functionality that used to require a desktop/laptop. Windows dependency is going to keep trending down both in just desktop/laptop or including mobile devices
It’s a pretty bold move to advertise the inclusion of a key logger in your OS.
Youd already be using Linux Mint or Ubuntu if you cared about not being data mined.
I’ve been Linux only since 2016, after a decade of "trying " to move over. I do still have a partition for the increasingly rare event that I need something MS, which so far has been one class in my University that required a lockdown browser for a test.
Mint is easy to use too if you don’t want to fiddle around with various packages.
Not just keylogger. It’s a screenlogger too.
Ardamax Keylogger takes screenshots too, should they change the name?
Yes.
