MAGA’s gonna party like it’s 2020!
Let me put it this way. Today I spent over $700 on a massive amount of groceries and various toiletries.
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Jesus, Mary and Joseph and all his carpenter friends what the fuck did you spend 700 dollars on? Is that US?
Like I know you said groceries and various toiletries but the curiosity is tickling me.
Last time I was in the states I figured it worked out to about 100 per bag of grocerys.
So they bought 7 bags. Or maybe 5 now.
Easy to do.
Jesus, Mary and Joseph and all his carpenter friends what the fuck did you spend 700 dollars on? Is that US?
Eggs.
4 of them to be precise.
Stockpiling
As an individual I spend about 100 a week on groceries. My guess is stocking up for weeks of food which I’ve been slowly stockpiling myself. Or a large family 4-5+
Wild. Our house has six and I’d feed us all for the week for about 180 euro / 200 USD. We cook all our meals though, with some exceptions like occasional frozen pizza or chicken nuggets for convenience.
I spent a summer in the US in the late 90s and I remember basically everything being cheaper there at the time but we have lots of discount supermarkets here now that we didn’t then.
Could actually be a lot of canned goods. The top shelf stuff is like $5 per can 😳
Probably a lot of non-perishables, or like those camping meals with a 10-year life span.
A few dozen eggs?
Yes, USD. I bought some fresh food (and do so regularly), but also a ton of non-perishables: lots of canned food, various kinds of rice, cereals, oatmeal, lots of water, etc. Protein and carbs. 48 rolls of toilet paper (I have a bidet so this will last me about two years), and so on.
I’m building up my reserves. I have a large pantry and several large cupboards to keep it all in, and could probably buy another $700 worth and have a place to keep it. I also cook at home for most meals and so I rotate through these food stuffs faster than you’d expect. There’s no canned food older than two years, and most items are newer than six months. I generally buy more than I need, but not usually this much.
I’m not a “prepper” in an “underground bunker” sense, but I do prepare for emergencies and instability, whatever form it may take: political, yes, but I also live on several fault lines, so “the big one” might happen at some point. In the winter, ice and snow occasionally confine me to my home for a week or two at a time. They’re all the same to me from a planning perspective.
The original price was $850, but I clip coupons and maximize sales and brought it down by over $150.
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I’m not a “prepper” in an “underground bunker” sense, but I do prepare for emergencies and instability, whatever form it may take: political, yes, but I also live on several fault lines
Assuming you’re a homeowner, make sure to check if your home insurance policy covers earthquake damage. By default most insurance policies don’t cover seismic.
It does, and I have an automatic gas shutoff valve as well (it’s gone off once before, which made for a pretty surprising morning shower).
But this is good advice for anyone who lives in a similar area. Don’t put yourself in a position where you could lose everything because you were trying to save a few bucks a month.
WTF, this bullshit again.
Well… look who’s president again. Just saying
If you deposed your dictator this wouldn’t be happening.
Nah, just roll over and yell “FREEDOM”.
I bet the US bomb stores are still fully stocked for *srael.
There is such an abundance we will have to use them against our civilian population just to keep from throwing them out.
God that censorship of words you don’t like bullshit is so annoying.
As someone who doesn’t live in the US, I’m looking forward to watching this unfold.
It’s going to hurt Trump. I’m sorry a lot of Dem voters will be collateral damage but honestly, an economic shit storm of biblical magnitude is pretty much the only thing that can save you IMO.
It’s unclear if it’s going to save america, considering it’s 1:1 out of hitler’s playbook. He crashed the economy with tarrifs before going all in.
As an American I agree, though I have to point out something those of us living this shit nightmare know…
This won’t hurt him. At all. His supporters by and large are what you’d expect from full on Stockholm syndrome victims.
They excuse, Sanewash, and pretend it’s part of some plan to make them great.
His supporters? They can soak in their own bloodbaths and say it was Obama’s fault or some Hillary conspiracy.
The one issue voters who sat out last time, the middle of the ground twats who thought their vote didn’t matter, the Palestinians who thought Kamala’s stance on Israel wasn’t strong enough… Those are the people who have to suffer enough to motivate them to not be so fucking indifferent to things they don’t fully understand.
There’s a lot of folks who are either.:
Vote republican by default, but a shock could change them.
People who vote for or against the status quo based on how the feel things are going. Trump lost in 2020 in part due to people voting against whoever was in office. Hilary Clinton probably would have lost in 2020 had she won in 2016. Trump won in 2024 in part due to similar sentiment to vote out the current party after the inflation that was likely unavoidable consequence of not collapsing from COVID.
Yes the MAGA cult is unwavering, and they are a huge factor in the GOP primaries and certainly an asset in the general election, but they are not enough to assure an election.
…presuming that quasi-representative elections happen in 2026 and 2028, which are by no means assured…
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They are supremely loyal but relatively few enough to be outvoted by the other voters that more casually voted for him. It’s harder for me to grasp, but there are folks that voted for him that wouldn’t be going to his rallies or anything.
It is a cult, and they are locked in until they are all burned away like a literal fever.
Yes but, as with any cult, blind faith won’t save them. They’ll go destitute, get sick and die all the same.
It’s a shame it had to come to that but the world will eventually be rid of them anyway. People wishing MAGAtards redeem themselves are focusing on the wrong thing
IMO it’s not really the MAGA idiots you need to worry about. It’s the influential people in the republican party who are supporting Trump.
You’re right that the stereotypical trump supporter can’t be dissuaded by economic hardship.
However, the people that thought Trump was going to deliver them never before seen profits through de-regulation can very easily be dissuaded be economic hardship.
An economic hole is forming, and if it’s deep enough and wide enough Trump will be unseated.
This won’t hurt him. At all. His supporters by and large are what you’d expect from full on Stockholm syndrome victims.
This is such a tired narrative.
Yes, yes it will.
It is hurting Trump, Trump has historically low approval ratings, people all across the political spectrum are literally shocked in realtime right now at how fast his approval ratings are tanking. Bernie Sanders and AOC are getting bigger crowds than Bernie even got during his presidential campaign. If the Republican party, Democratic party and the entire system of checks and balances were functioning in the U.S. this would be catastrophic for Trump and for Republicans in general. It still might be if we can manage to survive this.
The one issue voters who sat out last time, the middle of the ground twats who thought their vote didn’t matter, the Palestinians who thought Kamala’s stance on Israel wasn’t strong enough… Those are the people who have to suffer enough to motivate them to not be so fucking indifferent to things they don’t fully understand.
Go spit your venom somewhere else and stop condescending people for seeing genocide as a redline.
Leftists voted for Kamala, the people who didn’t vote were meaningfully connected to Palestinians or were Arab… in other words this wasn’t political for them this was just a basic litmus test for whether centrist democrats can be trusted not to turn a blind eye to blatant horrific genocide against arab people while at the same time lecturing other countries about human rights.
You just directly chastised people who decided not to vote for a presidential candidate that was the previous vice president under the president that directly facilitated and provided political backing for a genocide of their people and homeland, do you understand how pathetic you sound? This isn’t about Trump being worse, of course Trump is worse, what is pathetic is that you would in this moment of utter strategic failure on every level by the entrenched corporate leadership of the democratic party to resist against an openly fascist candidate… choose to pick on people adjacent to one of the most horrific genocides in modern history…
Let me re-emphasize to everyone who upvoted this fool, the person I am replying is admitting that they think their best strategy for appealing to more people with their viewpoint is picking on victims of a genocide. Do you really want to throw your lot in with people like this who are so bereft of strategies and visions that can appeal to everyone?.
By October 2024, Israel said it bombed 40,000 locations[4] in the Gaza Strip (which is 360 km2). By one estimate, as of April 2024 the bomb tonnage dropped on Gaza was more than 70,000 tonnes,[5] surpassing the combined bomb tonnage dropped on Dresden, Hamburg, and London in World War II.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_bombing_of_the_Gaza_Strip
the Gaza strip is only 360 square kilometers, the other bombed places being compared here are far larger areas, and yet there still has been more bombs dropped, almost every single one gleefully handed over by the U.S., on the Gaza strip than these other places.
When will you suffer enough to realize that you were on a tiny, cynical island of people who thought we could ignore the plight of the Palestinian people as if it were an unconnected issue to the U.S. and as though the U.S. public could be calmed down by the likes of Chuck Shumer uselessly waving his hands around as the democratic party turned around and did whatever the hell AIPAC wanted… and the world watched on as Israel committed genocide full tilt and unabated?
Why are you still talking like you represent any kind of majority coalition? …like you represent the nexus of any kind of ideological or political consensus?
You are an irrelevant cynical voice yelling ineffectually into the void.
…as someone who opposed the fascist-in-chief by civil means and will be wholly caught up in the economic maelstrom, i’m looking forward to watching this unfold, too: it’s the only thing which might save us from full-blown armed conflict and martial law…
Lmao hurt Trump? His cultists will be eating rat soup to survive and insist that the economy is great and America is on its way to being Great Again™, and that rat soup is just a necessary sacrifice on that path.
After the great divide and maga has central USA, you guys can get back to work, but unfortunately the civil war is gonna suck
I hate that you are right about that.
The cultists at jonestown were perfectly fine to die. The magas will die for him at well without complaint.
They will, but that is nowhere near a majority, look at the numbers… they are cataclysmic for Trump.
The point is that it doesn’t matter to Trump, and his cronies are going to try hard to make it not matter that these things are massively unpopular to the general public.
Can we stop focusing on the fact the 20% of most crazy Trump fascists won’t change? We know they won’t change… but there are a LOT of people who voted Republican or who didn’t vote who are rethinking their choices hard right now.
Maybe it is too late, that isn’t a point I necessarily disagree with… but your thesis that things can continue to get worse and it won’t matter for Trump’s core popularity has already been proven stunningly false by every single damn poll out there of the U.S. (try watching some Republican town halls too, they are a madhouse of people screaming DO SOMETHING TO HELP US).
The cultists, yes… but they’re not the ones keeping him on his throne. If enough rich people lose enough money he will be impeached.
Rich people will make money if the stocks go up or down because they’ll know in advance what’s coming.
There’s more at stake than stocks going up or down by a few percent.
People with large business empires don’t want a catastrophic recession.
rump proves he still has no idea what a tarriff is:
“I am this giant store. It’s a giant, beautiful store, and everybody wants to go shopping there,” he said. “And on behalf of the American people, I own the store, and I set prices, and I’ll say, ‘If you want to shop here, this is what you have to pay.’ ”
And then he makes the surprized picachu face when people shop elsewhere.
It’s hysterical how he compares the US to a department store, a kind of store that is all but dead in 2025.
Thanks for sharing the archive link!
I’m living the dream with individually wrapped quilted 3-ply tp rolls and $1.75/doz eggs. Current version of the us sucks balls.
Anything that hurts americans is a good thing.
Are you sure about that? Bin laden hurt us once, by a relatively tiny amount, 25 years ago. Our government spent the next 25 years fucking over the world.
Indeed. It is quite fascinating how much pain Americans can endure.
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Great. When do they start calling me essential then require me to work while everyone else is on lockdown?
Being called a hero want enough reward for you? /s
I see what you’re saying about this whole hero thing but how about instead like a few months just feeling like I belong in this world and enjoy existence?
Ok let’s not go over bored here buddy.
You can have an hour of free time at best
Fine but I’m eating cheese, then.
Pizza lunches for moral!
Can someone post the article, it’s completely paywalled for me.
Covid-like shortages for US consumers ‘within weeks’ Shipping data shows container traffic from China to the US is collapsing A shopper looks at nearly empty egg shelves in a grocery store. Apollo Global Management said there “will be empty shelves in US stores in a few weeks”, similar to those of the pandemic, and warned of “significant layoffs” next month
President Trump claimed he has already struck “200 deals” on tariffs with foreign leaders — even as one of America’s biggest asset managers warned that a fall in trade between the US and China will lead to Covid-like shortages within weeks.
Apollo Global Management, which manages about $700 billion of assets, said analysis of China shipping data showed container traffic from there to the US is collapsing.
The consequence “will be empty shelves in US stores in a few weeks and Covid-like shortages for consumers and for firms using Chinese products as intermediate goods”, Torsten Slok, Apollo’s chief economist, said.
• Trump: I’ve made 200 tariff deals and spoken to President Xi
The White House claims that scores of trade deals are close to completion but has yet to release details of any. In an interview with Time magazine, Trump said that trade negotiations with foreign powers could be “finished” within “three to four weeks”.
“Ultimately, I’ve made all the deals,” Trump said in the interview to mark his first 100 days in office. “I’ve made 200 deals.”
Trump said that China’s President Xi had called him, despite China denying any contact between the two governments over the trade war between the economic superpowers. The president did not say when he and Xi spoke or what the two leaders discussed. “He’s called. And I don’t think that’s a sign of weakness on his behalf,” Trump said.
Trump has placed punitive 145 per cent tariffs on imports from China, while Beijing has retaliated with 125 per cent levies on US goods. “There’s a number at which they will feel comfortable,” Trump said, referring to China. “But you can’t let them make a trillion dollars on us.”
Explaining his approach to the tariff policy that has triggered weeks of turmoil on global markets, the president compared the US to the world’s department store.
“I am this giant store. It’s a giant, beautiful store, and everybody wants to go shopping there,” he said. “And on behalf of the American people, I own the store, and I set prices, and I’ll say, ‘If you want to shop here, this is what you have to pay.’ ”
The White House suspended tariffs on other countries for 90 days this month as foreign leaders vowed to negotiate with the Trump administration, but it has not spared China.
Vowing to “fight to the end”, Beijing has restricted exports of rare earth minerals that are vital for manufacturing batteries and high-tech devices.
Apollo warned that a collapse in trade between the US and China would lead to “significant lay-offs in trucking, logistics and retail” next month.
The White House has softened its posture towards China in recent days, claiming that trade talks with Beijing were moving the right direction. China dismissed the claim as “fake news”.
Markets were subdued on Friday. US equities rallied earlier in the week, with the S&P 500 on Thursday posting its third straight gain of more than 1 per cent and the Nasdaq its own third straight gain of more than 2 per cent
Thanks
Covid-like shortages for US consumers ‘within weeks’ Shipping data shows container traffic from China to the US is collapsing / A shopper looks at nearly empty egg shelves in a grocery store.
Are people consuming eggs that they get in containers from China?
Tbf, you can’t sell product without packaging, so maybe there’ll be issues sourcing the cartons or ink to print on them. There’s been plenty of times where we lost food sales because all the plastic clamshells got held up back during covid.
There are actually quite a few things at WalMart made in the USA. That was big news in the 90s? early 00s? Do stock up on medical supplies like diabetic test strips and maybe get that new glucose tester today. I bet business in Thailand and Cambodia booms this year.
I think they’re just trying to get us to panic buy stuff again
Buy them return if it does not happen.
No, they don’t know what the fuck they are doing.
There is a difference, the difference being that they don’t understand how badly this is going to end for everyone.
This won’t be “covid like” shortages because covid was chaotic and unpredictable whereas this is a result of a very predictable progression of the U.S. into fascism… and the shortages as a result from that as other economies disentangle from the U.S. economy will be long lasting and indefinite not transient like the crisis point of a pandemic.
There is no “weathering” an existential loss of trust.
And people probably will.
For the most part, the US has staple foods covered internally. We import stuff like coffee, but grains and potatoes and chicken/pork/beef are all here. I expect that when people see the shelves for electronic trinkets go bare at Walmart, they will panic buy food. This will end up like covid food shelves; a bunch of scary videos of food shelves being empty, but then restocked within a week.
That’ll mean you may not be able to get things at the grocery store when you want them for a while.
I had happened to buy a small chest freezer just before covid, and that ended up being such a good investment just then. Looks like it will be again.
The USA is highly dependent on China for animal feed supplements (all the vitamins and minerals and amino acids that they add to raw grain to make it a complete diet for factory farm raised animals).
About 50% of all the staple crops are exported, and that market will collapse. Farmers may choose not to plant anything if the market prices are too low to cover their operations.
Normally all the trucks and train cars get filled up and take our food products to the ports , empty, then fill up with imports. Since we will not be exporting, the costs of running empty trucks and trains all over will double the transport cost components. Even for distribution of domestic food items the transport system will not be efficient any more.
It’s a complex system of interdependencies that will unravel in unexpected ways.
We are definitely not covered for what will happen.
“I am this giant store. It’s a giant, beautiful store, and everybody wants to go shopping there,” he said. “And on behalf of the American people, I own the store, and I set prices, and I’ll say, ‘If you want to shop here, this is what you have to pay.’ ” - Trump
What a god damn clown. I can’t tell if he’s to stupid to realize what he’s doing… or knows exactly what he’s doing, and giving the most moronic responses to his actions. Basically, I can’t tell where on the IQ range he is, from “can’t wipe his own ass” or “actual genius”
“Can’t wipe his own ass” except he knows how to game the US system to benefit himself better than possibly anyone else.
He’s exploiting exactly the same weakness that llms exploit to appear so smart: he just sounds confident all the time, and since people use confidence as a shortcut to evaluate accuracy, anyone who isn’t paying attention to the actual substance is going to just nod and smile at the confidence and assume everything is perfect.
Glad I’ve lived poor. Can easily weather the tide
Have slowly cultivated my family’s love of potatoes, carrots, and pasta for just such occasions
Rice and Sriracha for dinner again!
Don’t forget the foraged ramps , dandelion greens and other foraged delectables…
When there is a shortage of choice, with the same amount of people buying from a smaller supply, do you expect prices to stay the same?
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It’s kind of a sad superpower, isn’t it? Especially when you see people who have always been coddled living in luxury, start complaining.
I grew up poor as hell. I broke the cycle in my family just in time to have to deal with this shit. My garden is looking like it’s going to do well this year and if meat starts getting scarce I can go hunting from time to time or get some yard birds from the friends I get my eggs from, but god damn (or maybe I’ll go vegetarian, wouldn’t be the first time), I just wanted a little more time not having to live hand to mouth.
But I’ll make it as long as flour doesn’t get to be the price of beef. And I’ll complain the whole fucking time.
I’ve always thought this shit was pretty funny. Like, oh, we’re going to have spaghettio’s again? I guess it’s fucking Wednesday.
I have the worst timing …. I’ve been trying to eat my way down to an empty freezer. I bought a chest freezer in covid and kept it full ever since, but it really needs to be defrosted. I still have more stuff in there than can fit in all my coolers and in the fridge.
But maybe I should restock while I can and try again to defrost in four years
You think things will be better in Trump’s 3rd term? 🤔
