100% guaranteed these people are of two kinds: Trump voters and Conservative Libertarians
There are many articles on this, and even a book or two. Anyway, I thought you’d get a kick out of it. True fucking story man. Fucking libertarians. 🤦🏻♀️
Donald J Trump is a liar, rapist, cheat and a lousy business man that has failed every single business, and Americans voted in this useless excuse for a human being to enforce facism, racism, and colonialism. Well done America.
He bankrupted a casino.
A FUCKING CASINO!
That’s like bankrupting a money printer.
Multiple casinos.
I honestly hate that I know so much about this sad excuse for a human.
The Feds were on the trail of the Russian dirty money being laundered through it.
He will probably manage to that too soon.
You forgot sexism. There’s a non-zero amount of people who simply will never vote for a woman.
“Non zero” just doesn’t do justice to the sheer amount who won’t vote for a woman. Even among women voters.
I for one could never vote for a man to be president. Men are just too emotional to serve as leaders. Do you really want some roid-rage dude with his hands on the nuclear button? Please. Men are just too pigheaded, irrational, and obsessed with petty dominance issues to be trusted with real power. They’re like selfish little children. Can you imagine it, a male president? The very idea is laughable! Only someone who knows just how hard it is to birth and raise a child should be trusted with the power to direct the military to take lives. Only women can really grasp the real stakes involved. /s
sexism and racism, the reason people were giving for not voting her, is because “i dont like her, or she hasnt done anything” codewords for she was black and a woman.
Twice.
and actively worked with russia since the 80s to undermine the USA.
6 times bankruptcy! He’s so bad that after the last one, no western bank would work with him at all. That’s when he went to Russian oligarchs for cashflow, and the rest is history…
6 times bankrupt, bankrupt casinos, 34 felony convictions, WWE Superstar, known Russian agent, coup leader, the list is extensive…but he was on TV a lot. He’s perfect. I want him.
if trump had invested in a index fund of his inheritence he would be close to 100bn richer. now hes just prostituting to whoever is richer to give him some money.
What people in the US also need to realize is, that the rest of the world still enjoys more or less unchanged prices on these sites. It is only the US that has put tarrifs on them and it has only affected the American consumers
On the other hand, American products are getting more expensive everywhere else, because of the retaliational tarrifs by the usa.
So it is a double edged sword, but the US is holding it by it’s blade! With both hands!
Until sellers start jacking prices up elsewhere in the world to make up for lost revenue from the American market
That would be akin to death by sudoku
(Yes, I know it’s seppuku)
The American market is a massive part of some companies yes. But most companies only have a small percentage of revenue in the US.
Listen… the US is just one country. Its a big one and one that buys a lot. But still one country. Many companies can compensate the loss of that market by exploring the many other markets that they have down played. Furthermore, the availability of products that would have gone to the US may even make it cheaper to make and sell products everywhere else than in the US
The US is screaming and holding a hot pan fresh out of the oven, but refusing to just set it down and use the fucking oven mits next time.
Meanwhile, other countries are watching this happen, but somehow having a relatively difficult time deciding if they maybe want to give it a try with their own government.
was an article that EU is gonna get flooded by super cheap items now, china will sell at a loss. that is gonna take shares from US items even more, and US items was already overpriced and gonna become even more expensive.
its like triple loss for US. they need to lower US wages if they want be able to compete.
Been speed running a slave class with private prisons. I believe they are prepared.
China has more people willing to work for low wages than the US can find or make prisoners.
I’m aware of that. Not sure the dictator is though.
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“Did I miss something?”
No, you intentionally avoided listening to what we were telling you.
If Mangolini weren’t such an idiot, he wouldn’t have revoked the de minimus exemption (meaning orders under $800 were exempt from the tariffs), then his rube followers would never have noticed anything.
Except for all the infrastructure inflation they’ll pay for indirectly.
That blame is easily shifted because the Republicans just let infrastructure crumble and keep the same budget. When dems up the taxes to pay for the infrastructure its clearly their fault.
someone on reddit mentioned that it would be “beneficial” for the gop to have several elecitons, because it will show them how bad it is if dems arnt around to clean up the mess every other election, JUST MAYBE we might see some change. it is the case in kentucky i believed where the gop did such a bad job/the r GOV did they dint want another one to completely trash the state, so they needed a scapegoat.
In Texas the Republicans have been running the state for 30 years, and still every election ad from Republicans is that only the Republicans can save us from the hell scape the Democrats have made of Texas.
without the 4 blue counties propping up the state which they butchered, it would instantly collapsed already.
I give it 2 years before they have rolling blackouts daily. The grid is already struggling and they are not making it better.
I’m not totally convinced that a huge swath of trump voters ever heard any alternatives to the propaganda that lead them to believe tariffs=good. Like i imagine a ton of them are structurally isolated from hearing alternatives the way social media and television works
If you’re gonna be dumb, then you got to be tough
“I haven’t been keeping up with news or what’s going on!!! I have been ordering a lot this past month for my daughters wedding… did I miss something???”
I mean Jesus TapDancing Christ. You’ve not been aware of who the president is and what he is doing??? It’s not like tariffs haven’t been in the news at all. They (along with illegal renditions and other attacks on civil liberties) have been dominating the news cycles since January. I have never been one to ignore news, so even if quite busy with something in life I read headlines at the very least. It confounds me to know some folks ignore news willfully. Some even think of it like it’s some twisted badge of honor.
I know head-in-sand people exist, but I am dismayed, baffled and extremely disappointed that they still behave the same when the house is burning down around them. Especially when this ignorance is obviously present in a large block of people in the US.
Please wake the hell up everyone, the house is on fire! (I know I am preaching [venting] to the choir in this venue.)I’ve tried to severely limit my intake since the election and just taken in enough info to have a foundation for context, I don’t need to see 400 alliterations of some doom and gloom headline, but yes, even in this fairly limited scope I’m WELL aware of the tariffs. It’s absolutely willful to be this tuned out
Completely understandable to limit info for mental health reasons and I sometimes feel the same. This isn’t that obviously.
“Oh I don’t pay attention to politics.”
Guess what, politics pays fucking attention to you
politics pays fucking attention to you
What was that bullshit propaganda catch-phrase the right-wingers were spewing a while back, to bitch and moan that their abhorrent “values” of bigotry and hate were “under attack?” Oh yeah: “You Will Be Made to Care.”
As always, yet fucking again, it was pure projection.
Are you really that surprised? I regularly see people even on Lemmy talking about how much they wish they could disconnect from everything going on and live a quiet peaceful life in the country. That’s essentially what all these people have chosen; they have decided the world is too scary for them and they don’t want to process it anymore. Things will continue to get worse for them, and they won’t have any idea why.
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Thanks for that, really interesting article.
Found the fucking idiots who couldn’t be bothered to vote for Kamala.
Or that voted for donvict because “R”.
Retirement vanishing, social services being cut, tariffs destroying global trust and economy… It’s ok. It’s ok. Because Donald Trump doesn’t laugh. Kamala had a weird laugh. That would’ve been the end of us.
i hope every fucking 3rd party voter has to choose between rent and eating along with all the pridefully ignorant bumblefuck maga knuckledraggers
edit: LOL i love how the “vOtE 3rD pArTy!!!” chuds have literally nothing to say anymore–can only downvote.
“i DoNt WaNnA vOtE fOr GeNoCiDe!!!”
great job, fucko. now we have genocide in gaza AND in america
enjoy your fucking tariffs. and if you’re less than 100% white/male/straight/evangelical/republican, then enjoy all the things that go along with being “other” in a fascist state (hint: fucking genocide)
LOL i love how the “vOtE 3rD pArTy!!!” chuds have literally nothing to say anymore–can only downvote.
It’s equal parts hilarious and crushingly depressing. Every time I call out dipshit losers who didn’t vote or voted 3rd party, I get a slew of downvotes from said losers, but never a reply. They know they’re world class idiots, so all they can really do is downvote you.
Thing is, they’ll do the same thing again next time around because they’re not very smart and honestly believe “voting with their conscience” is more intelligent than voting for the candidate CLOSEST to their ideals that can ACTUALLY win, and, in some cases, prevent a MOTHERFUCKING AUTHORITARIAN from assuming power and crashing our economy and shitting on our Constitution, among other things.
Fun Fact: The 3rd party candidate with the most votes was magician Jill Stein, who magically appears right before every election, then magically disappears again afterward. She managed to nab a whole HALF OF A SINGLE PERCENT of the total votes cast. So there’s your proof that anyone voting 3rd party is a goddamn idiot.
I’ll say this once for those in the back. A 3rd party candidate cannot win, because no 3rd party has put in the work to get representatives elected in local/state elections, so they could eventually have ANY PRESENCE AT ALL in the House and Senate, so they’d actually have a chance to win a presidency. Lol, even if they somehow magically got a president in office, they would have NO ALLIES in either chamber of Congress to help them achieve their agenda.
Downvote me. They usually hurt my feelings, but the ones I get from dipshit loser non-voters and 3rd party voters enhance my libido.
10 years ago i was a lot dumber. i’m the first to admit: i voted jill stein because i didn’t care for hillary, but she was going to win. trump was a laughingstock joke even back then, and the polls and the hype around hillary bamboozled me. not that my vote would have changed it, but clearly a lot of people thought the same
that’s when i learned my fucking lesson about voting 3rd party. never. again.
“I know I support the murder of you and your people. But I’m still going to need you to vote for me, so that I can preserve democracy and the economy. You may not live to see it, but the rest of us will really appreciate it.”
Gonna be honest with you. I care way more about the nation I live in and its democracy and my human rights and the human rights of the ones I love than I do about two nations on the other side of the planet continuing a fucking holy war that’s been going on all my life.
Apparently you do not.
P.S. Gaza is worse off under Trump. And he made it clear that would be the case before the election.
I know some choices are hard, but my parents aren’t around to make them for me anymore, and voting takes so much effort. It doesn’t really matter anyway, both sides are exactly the same. I’ll just not vote and whomever wins, wins. This is America, I’ve got inalienable rights, so it won’t get that bad.
I learned inalienable rights weren’t inalienable when I got my first history lesson in 1st grade.
145% isn’t even accurate because that’s just on the cost of the good. You then have to figure in retailer margin, seller margin etc. Most MSRPs will be 300% of what they were to keep those the same as before.
Not really. If they keep the same % based on what it costs them, then it should increase by the same amount.
If they instead get the same amount (which would effectively mean reduce their margins) the final cost would be a bit less.
Happy to be corrected with some numerical example.
So if you see any price increase greater than the tariff amount, it’s plain corporate greed.
I think “corporate greed” is a good explanation for pretty much all our problems.
Given the effect on the climate due to pollution, even rain or lack of can be explained by corporate greed
BS If an item costs an extra $100 to put on a shelf, the retailer will still want to cover the costs of obtaining and spending that $100. No-one is going to use funds commercially, for free. WTF do you think retailers will be good keeping the same profit, numerically, whilst spending 145% more for it?
I always wonder what compels some people to make so little effort to understand what they are replying to, but make so much effort in proving they have no idea what they are replying to. Can you explain?
Obviously, you already know the answer.
Personally, I’ve always laughed at people who posit questions that they already know the answer to. Faux Intelligentsia.
Less if anything.
You buy something from China for $100. Add packing, staff costs and delivery and you sell it retail for say $200. A nice healthy profit margin.
Now you add the 145%, so it costs $245 from China. None of the rest of it will cost you more. Still an extra $100, for $345 total.
The retail customer pays an extra (345/200=) 72.5% instead.
It’s a lot, but not 145%.
So if your retail price goes up by 145% or more, they either weren’t making a lot of profit before, or they’re greedy bastards.
At the border you pay tariffs on all the costs up to that point, because they are all considered to be part of the value of the shipment as it crosses the border. So the price of good, plus the price of packaging (as far as it was packaged in China), plus the price of the freight shipping are tariffed together, which makes the result of the calculation a little worse, but fundamentally you’re right.
There are also non finished goods, like car components. Components from other tariff regions and US labor costs won’t have that much, but there finished product will have a price hike
I’m thinking more your staff, your shipping from your warehouse to your customers, your retail store and rent, etc.
Which all of course varies depending on the business you are. A small retail store would be affected much less by this than a much larger, more efficient operation that might not have retail locations at all.
It depends on if it is something like a powder that comes raw in a 200 lb jar and you package it yourself into small containers.
Yes, then you only pay tariff for the powder, for the big jar, and the transpacific shipping of the big jar. That’s what I meant by “as far as it was packaged in China”.
Learn to math. In your example 72.5% of the higher amount is the same as 145% of the smaller amount (cbf actually mathing it, but you obviously don’t grasp the concept of maths very well). Retailers will NOT be happy to make the same $100 profit, if they have to outlay 145% MORE cash to achieve it. Realistically, for many retailers, that extra 145% cash comes from an overdraft, and will have it’s own costs associated with it. No-one will use 2 1/2 times more cash to generate the same profit, and be happy with that. Another way to look at it. In your example, $100 item from China generates 100% of cost price, to sell at $200. If that same item now costs $245 but sells at $345 only, then the cost price generated is more like 40% (shipping/handling costs are excluded, for simplicity). Most businesses would lose their bankers if they take such a hit.
Now the stupid ones can ‘figure’ it out.
Or do their own research to figure out why everything is so expensive.
Their own reasearch will be to see what the orange tumor says. He will say its liberal gay immigrants.
This is exactly what is happening. All these polls showing Trump is losing confidence are BS. They need to ask if a democrat would do better, and almost all MAGAs would say no. And keep voting in republicans.
Yes. They missed the part where they specifically and repeatedly said they were going to do this. Because American voters evidently have the cognitive skills of a fucking sea sponge.
My sister voted for Trump, only learned after the fact, because of “the inflation” so I asked her how she tough the tariffs would help on that. Her answer? “What do you mean, what are tariffs?” A little too late I send her a youtube video about Tariffs and Trump and she was like wtf. She lives in California, so it’s not like she helped him win, but I’m going to keep a tab on her before elections.
This is what the democratic party has to learn. Your sister is a sizable representation of the electorate. They have no goddamn idea how anything works. They voted purely based on vibes. You have to capture the terminally unengaged and uninformed voters if you want to be able to stay in power.
Yup.
In America you have to lie, or at the very least dangle shiny things in front of idiots, to win an election.
Sucks, but it’s the truth. Talking about actually policy is out of most fool’s wheelhouses. Gotta appeal to their simple feelings.
She sounds like a single issue voter.
Thats really the biggest problem. People not looking at the whole candidate.
Single issue voters at least purport to understand their pet issue…
Voting by “vibe”. No critical thinking, and even less empathy.
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its low information voters that mostly voted for him besides the incels/joe roegan people.
How do these people function in daily life? It’s baffling.
Cheap debt.
Not anymore.
Ah, because of the famous inflation dial in the US president’s office which Biden kept cranked up for shits and giggles. Well known fact.
The inflation which was most likely due to Trump’s bungled handling of COVID…
The attention span of the average voter is short than that of a goldfish.
Because
AmericanTrump voters evidently have the cognitive skills of a fucking sea sponge.FTFU.
No the non-voters are just as responsible for this mess.
And some of the Democratic voters might actually approve of them waving little round signs around while they vote for Republican bills and confirm Republican nominations.
The percentage of Americans who are above sea sponge levels seems to be vanishingly small.
Unfortunately the Trump virus has infected other countries too. I’m really proud of Canada for not following us.
Oh we still have a major fight on our hands. It was a very close outcome and only happened because we burned our number 3 and 4 parties to the ground to make it happen. That isn’t really a win. It only buys a little time to get our shit together before this happens again.
A sea sponge at least absorbs something.
It also doesn’t fuck up life for everyone else on the planet, which is a boon.
Hey, man, don’t insult the sea sponge.
SpongeBob.
Cambridge Analytica is the reason we’re in this mess. It’s the actual Deep State the Republicans were pointing fingers about
