Hi all,
The quick and dirty questions is: Which distro should I try next?
I tried Debian X11 and Fedora with Wayland, but I did not have a great experience with them for my Lenovo Legion 5 Pro RTX3060. I installed proprietary drivers on both systems since people say that they’re better than Nouveau, but the framerate stutters even in simple browser game.
I use some software to slice 3d models for printing, and that one stuttered too. I tried various fixes but none of them worked, and I’d really like to switch to Linux from Microsoft for my daily driver.
What distro can I use to have a better experience? Any advice is welcome, but please make it as specific as possible and if you can, address why that distro would be better than Debian 12 and Fedora 42.
Thanks in advance!
Does your laptop have 2 GPU’s?
NVIDIA Optimus sucks for Linux, I would suggest looking into EnvyControl and forcing your xorg & xrandr to use your NVIDIA GPU primarily and not the iGPU.
My choice is Arch Linux purely because it’s bleeding edge
I’ve no idea if Arch actually has newer drivers than Debian / Fedora, but if they are you’ll (usually) get better support from the developers of whatever application / package - or in your case - drivers that you’re facing.
It’s more involved than “just” installing Debian, etc… but reading through the Arch Linux wiki as you install will (should) ensure you’ve got the correct drivers setup and you’ll know why they’re working.
So… it’ll be more effort, but you might get “better” results.
I’ve no idea if Arch actually has newer drivers than Debian / Fedora
Kinda, since Arch has nvidia’s own drivers in their extra repo, whereas in Fedora you’ll have to do some stuff to get them.
Give Linux Mint a spin, I seriously doubt there’s a friendlier distribution for newcomers from Windows.
But would it fix the core issues that OP is having?
Not directly, I’m just giving OP the answer they wanted:
The quick and dirty questions is: Which distro should I try next?
But wouldn’t mint have the same issues as Debian 12?
Mint has access to newer nvidia drivers than mint, and Cinnamon let’s you open programs with exclusively the Nvidia GPU instead of integrated graphics from the start menu.
Why?
isn’t mint based off of Ubuntu which is based off of debian?
If the GPU / distro is the root cause of their game issues wouldn’t Mint be similar?
That’s not how it works. Ubuntu adds layers of hardware support and software tweaks on top of its Debian base. Same goes for Mint on top of Ubuntu.
My spouse has a laptop from Asus with VERY similar Specs (but an RTX 3050ti instead of a 3060) and so far Linux Mint has been a pretty trouble -free experience with ONE condition:
I set it to use the dedicated nvidia gpu 24/7 as opposed to the integrated AMD gpu. I forgot what exactly was happening but if memory serves it was disrupting something, I think recovering from closing the lid?
After doing that we’ve never had an issue again. They mostly use at their desk plugged in, sp the power usage isn’t much a concern.
Hope this helps!
Was it hard to set it to always use the dedicated gpu?
I don’t remember it being particularly difficult, I’m a bit of a linux newb myself, but I’d be lying if I said I remember which steps I took off the top of my head.
I don’t have experience with dual GPU laptops but from what I’ve heard PopOS handles them really well. They also have an image with the nvidia drivers preinstalled which should make the setup process straightforward
Edit: I also found this github repo which documents some fixes for issues on that device specifically. Not sure how many of these have been patched upstream by now but it’s worth checking out.
Check the lenovo legión discord server, there is a linux channel and they can help you better than here probably
Interesting, thanks! Do you happen to have a link to it?
https://discord.gg/legionseries
IDK if it’s the one but it has #linux channel
This is the link, if you (op) are not familiar with discord it can be a bit overwhelming at first, but try to write in the chat your issue and for sure they can give you helpful feedback
It’s still Fedora under the hood, but Nobara has a pile of graphics tweaks to enable video editing and gaming, by the developer of the Proton layer that Valve uses for Steam. It’s optimized for high end graphics and nVidia cards.
I have non pro version and I disabled the iGPU in BIOS it worked on ubuntu but battery was nonexistent.
Recently I switched on the iGPU. Now I tried various distros and Arch and Bazzite worked out of the box.
It’s not your fault because with nvidia gpu you have to add env variables to tell your pc that use nvidia prime, no matter what distro you use you have to configure env varibales, although I’ll suggest you openSUSE-Tumbleweed and I was going to suggest you Fedora but you had problems so it’s ok.
Like others suggested here, the problem is probably nouveau and you might want to try a gaming-oriented distro which usually configure these things correctly out-of-the-box. My favourite is Nobara and Fedora (which didn’t work for you but works for me because I have different hardware). People suggest Bazzite, but I cannot recommend it because it’s based on Fedora Atomic, and I don’t get along with Fedora Atomic.
As a general admittedly non-helpful suggestion, don’t get Nvidia hardware if you want to use Linux.
I tried Fedora but since they removed support of x11 and nvidia doesn’t get along with wayland, I’m out of luck.
pop os. most apps you can right-click to run on discrete graphics card, and they tried to make it gamer friendly.
worth a shot, anyhow.
Yeah that’s true, but dual booting is harder than with most and requires tinkering with the windows boot partition, which I’m not a big fan of.
I didn’t remember doing that, but I’ve been using Linux for ages and might have shrugged that off and forgotten.
It’s here: https://ostechnix.com/dual-boot-windows-and-pop-os/
In the “Configure SystemD Boot for Dual Boot” section, or maybe I misunderstand the guide?
Huh. Yeah. I just probably did what was necessary and didn’t think about it too much, but that’s just because I’ve been using Linux for ages.
looks like the easiest way is if you have them on two separate drives. I don’t, they share an efi partition… … but, Windows has also overwritten things on there before, and I had to rescue the Linux side. Not most peoples’ cup of tea.
I have a desktop which has / had a similar problem.
Originally I built it with a g-series Ryzen which has integrated Radeon Vega graphics. Upgraded to a 3060 and wanted to run Linux for gaming instead of windows.
I couldn’t get a distro to reliably use my graphics card without the issues you describe. Stuttering, crashing, generally unusable.
Garuda was the answer (to be fair I’d try Bazzite too but I just didn’t get there as Garuda worked). In fact, it worked out of the box for me and I enjoyed it so much I made it my work OS.
I like the GUI utilities they’ve made for front-ending a bunch of Arch CLI utilities and I’ve been saved by BTRFS snapshots more than once.
a distribution is just an assortment of packages, it’s the same linux + driver underneath. nvidia on linux is a headache. are there people who made it work? sure. is that a worthwhile waste of your time? it is not.
get hardware that’s linux supported and you’ll have plenty of challenges during the transition, you don’t need the additional “self destruction in…” countdown timer booming from the speakers.
if you still wanna have at it, pop_os (however it’s spelt), bazzite and nobara are some od the distros that have dedicated nvidia install images and are thusly more likely to work OOB and work better afterwards.
are there people who made it work? sure.
For some historical context, Nvidia has had premium Linux support since 2006. For the longest time it was the only option for any kind of hardware accelerated 3D graphics on Linux and it generally worked pretty well.
Thankfully, AMD made the open-source side of graphics on Linux work also recently. At least for two years, AMD has been entirely trouble-free on Linux. To my knowledge, Nouveau is not quite there yet.
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PopOS makes Nvidia life easy
Dual booting PopOS seems pretty rough though, with risks to the windows installation and bootloader
I went back to Windows10 so I could dual-boot with Secure Boot turned off. My system will dual boot popOS or Debian without issue. Just make sure to install windows first.
Made this comment before I saw your other comment…
Dual booting creates all sort of complications
I raw dogged my situation and when dual booting failed I said fuxk satya the creep and just made A LOT of personal computing changes
With that being said, don’t be me. Ease into it
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That’s odd, I remember using Debian 12 without this issue when it was released, I later switched to an Arch based distro (Endeavour OS) to experiment with how it would run games (they ran better, I think some games were freezing on Debian 12 stable).
I can’t say anything about Fedora, never used it.
Do you have more information about the specific driver you installed on Debian 12 and Fedora 42? Like the version number? Maybe the neofetch result of your computer specs too.
Sorry for not being able to give more details.
Thanks for your answer! I had 535 installed on Debian 12 and 570 on Fedora 42. This is the result of fastfetch (neofetch is EOL). Let me know if you need any more info or if you think you have something that might help. Thanks!
System Details:
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OS: Fedora Linux 42 (Workstation Edition)
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Host: Lenovo Legion 5 Pro 16ACH (82JQ)
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Kernel: Linux 6.14.5-300.fc42.x86_64
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Uptime: 30 mins
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Locale: en_GB.UTF-8
Hardware:
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CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800H (16) @ 4.46 GHz
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GPU 1: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Mobile
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GPU 2: AMD Radeon Vega Series
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Memory: 4.30 GiB / 27.25 GiB (16%)
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Swap: 0 B / 8.00 GiB (0%)
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Disk (/): 23.09 GiB / 243.14 GiB (9%)
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Display: 2560x1600 @ 60 Hz
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Battery: 60% [AC Connected]
Software Environment:
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DE: GNOME 48.1
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WM: Mutter (Wayland)
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Theme: Adwaita
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Packages: 2490 (rpm), 12 (flatpak)
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Shell: bash 5.2.37
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Terminal: Ptyxis 48.1
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Network: 192.168.2.14/24 (wlp4s0)
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This could be an issue where the AMD GPU is only being used. I, like some of the others would suggest Linux Mint.