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This is original content. AI was not used anywhere except for the bottom right image, simply because I could not find one similar enough to what I needed. This took around 6 hours to make.
Transcription (for the visually impaired)
(I tried my best)
The background is an iceberg with 6 levels, denoting 6 different levels of privacy.
The tip of the iceberg is titled “The Brainwashed” with a quote beside it that says “I have nothing to hide”. The logos depicted in this section are:
- Apple
- TikTok
- PayPal
- Google Chrome
- CashApp
- Samsung
- Steam
- Microsoft Windows
- Ring (Security Camera)
- YouTube
- Amazon
- Discord
- Gmail
- ChatGPT
The surface section of the iceberg is titled “As seen on TV” with a quote beside it that says “This video is sponsored by…”. The logos depicted in this section are:
An underwater section of the iceberg is titled “The Beginner” with a quote beside it that says “I don’t like hackers and spying”. The logos depicted in this section are:
- Telegram
- Authy
- Brave Browser
- Privacy.com (Virtual Cards)
- DuckDuckGo
- iMessage
- Proton Mail
- AdBlock (Browser Extension)
A lower section of the iceberg is titled “The Privacy Enthusiast” with a quote beside it that says “I have nothing I want to show”. The logos depicted in this section are:
An even lower section of the iceberg is titled “The Privacy Activist” with a quote beside it that says “Privacy is a human right”. The logos depicted in this section are:
- Monero
- GrapheneOS
- Vanadium (Web Browser)
- KeePassDX
- SimpleX Chat
- Accrescent
- SearXNG
- Aegis Authenticator
- OpenWrt
- Mullvad VPN
- An illustration of physical cash
The lowest portion of the iceberg is titled “The Ghost”. There is a quote beside it that has been intentionally redacted. The images depicted in this section are:
- A cancel sign over a mobile phone, symbolizing “no electronics”
- An illustration of a log cabin, symbolizing “living in a log cabin in the woods”
- A picture of gold bars, symbolizing “paying only in gold”
- A picture of a death certificate, symbolizing “faking your own death”
- An AI generated picture of a person wearing a black hoodie, a baseball cap, a face mask, and reflective sunglasses, symbolizing “hiding ones identity in public”
End of transcription.
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best way to stay private is to just not play the game, sadly everyone whos here more or less got auto registered into this game at the very begining
Mark boyle, the man who quit money and electricity
ExpressVPN is an arm of Israeli intelligence and should be on the tip of the iceberg: https://www.reuters.com/technology/expressvpn-employees-complain-about-ex-spys-top-role-company-2021-09-23/
All users should cancel their accounts immediately.
It’s genuinely wild that Firefox and LibreWolf are nowhere on these
Apple: “Brainwashed”
iMessage: “Beginner”
Well which one is it?
Beautiful and I love it Thank you
How the heck is TOR less secure than any of the vpns? Also nice vpn psyop/ad.
I use something from each tier except the As Seen on TV tier.
Was going to say links or it never happened but you provided them! And categorized by level! Excelsior!
Thanks also to the comments giving more information.
So grateful for this platform. For the most part.
Throw away mobile phone and just use an air gapped machine. Your productivity will tank but then you’ll eventually add local databases of the shit you actually need on your air gapped machine and your productivity will triple.
Well shit, I shouldn’t be the first to tell you that if you’re serious about your privacy then get off of windows.
Also if the CIA is targeting with you with air gap malware, then you fucked all the way up. Pedophiles are saying “damn, fuck that guy”
The government targeting pedos? That would be a more effective way to eliminate government than doge
This is Lemmy. You’re the 30billionth to tell me.
Since we are 6, that’s about 6 billion times per each of us.
I think someone is stealing some of my 6 billion for themselves. Just some. Not all. Just. Some.
Yeah, that’s because I didnn’t count you!
I don’t have internet. Now my productivity is 0%. Help.
Your productivity will tank
Will it though? It’s not like paying with cash or even a credit/debit card takes radically longer than paying with a phone. It’s not like reading a book vs mindlessly scrolling Reddit or Lemmy makes productivity drop.
We get used to instantaneous tasks and convenience but in fine it’s like speeding up while driving from work to home, it’s not really the seconds or even minutes daily that count, it’s where you are going.
So… a “dumb” phone will probably for most not make productivity “tank” IMHO.
Yes, your productivity is going to tank. No way you’ll be prepared for a full air gapped machine on day 1.
Again I’m not comparing a perfectly setup productivity machine online versus an offline one, I’m comparing an entertainment machine also used for work vs an offline one.
FWIW I did do offline holidays and yes, I was missing a lot, yet arguably it didn’t make me less productive. Now I travel with kiwix with StackOverflow and Wikipedia .zim files and each time I believe, maybe naively, that I’m more productive, so indeed iteration helps but my point was more against distractions.
until you need to collaborate with the average person who uses google docs and gmail
What does that have to do with a phone?
Edit: FWIW you can say no (ideally explaining why, even providing an alternative while doing so, e.g. NextCloud with CollaboraOffice, for email… well you can clarify in a footer that this email thread is not private and suggest creating Tuta or ProtonMail account, even if one time use) to people who use Google Docs and GMail. You can also have a one time use account.
Cash and Monero being on the same tier is very funny
TIL I’m a privacy activist–who can help me get to the ghost mode?
(Do I even want to get there or is that limited to journalists who have entire states trying to unalive them?)limited to journalists who have entire states trying to unalive them. Don’t live your life in fear
You should stage your death, like they tried to do on prison break and then move to Mexico or Columbia. Send me a DM for more information /J
There is this steadily growing activist group that you could join up with.
Unless you’re a woman and want to be treated as a human being, I guess.
Do I even want to get there
Only you can answer that.
or is that limited to journalists who have entire states trying to unalive them?
Pretty much, but if you want to give up all technology, work for yourself, and fake your death, then more power to you!
Do you like living in the woods and not enjoy technology (or can live perfectly happily without it)?
Seems like faking your death would cause more privacy problems than it solves. Why not just “stay alive” with a completely innocuous identity? Then adopt some new identity which cannot be traced back to the original?
If you’re alive, you are asked for documents such as property records, taxes, etc. and if you refuse then bad things happen. If you fake your death, no more questions are asked and you can take on fake identities. In essence, faking your death takes your identity out of “the system”
Easier than you think it is. Hard to keep at it. All you need to do is stop using a phone or computers. Death cert is only needed when you’ve been compromised and people are out to get you. Gold isnt really usable unless you stumble onto a secret underground society where all trade is done in gold. Realistically, you’d sooner be trading goods (or services) for other goods (or services).
This level technically shuns technology and that brings its own challenges. Its like saying you cant have privacy with technology. I dont necessarily agree with this statement so I’d say don’t go to this level.
ayo, I think I won the privacy bingo! thats what this is right?
Thank you so, so much for the transcription, appreciated!
Sadly, using small niche VPNs that might be more trusted makes you stand out more. It’s pretty unusual to have a Mullvad user on your server
They don’t rotate IPs as well so a lot of them are blacklisted… and don’t offer port forwarding anymore
I wish they could change IPs reguarly and add port forwarding back :-( - I would happily pay for their service again
Because 5€ for their current service is overpriced
Mullvad is one of the most popular VPNs with loads of other users wtf
Compared to other options like mainstream VPNs and proton, they don’t have much servers, so, users
I’m not confident thats a valid assumption
Sadly, using small niche VPNs that might be more trusted makes you stand out more.
This probably doesn’t matter does it? Because being spotted as a mulvad, airvpn, etc user doesn’t make you more of a target for anything.
It just means that if they try to trace your connection back to you, they won’t find anything out, because you have a trusted zero-logging vpn.
Only think I could see is it could potentially be easier to track usage through the ip and assume it’s one person, but idk you could do that with anything if you look at the request timings, etc. It’s still just guesses.
Am i missing something?
It’s pretty unusual to have a Mullvad user on your server
Probably not on the usual sites people visit (youtube, etc, the big sites 99% of ppl go to exclusively), but I can see your point for any smaller site.
Because 5€ for their current service is overpriced
Airvpn provide a discount for each extra month you sign up for in bulk which is nice. It’s a great service in my opinion.
Sadly, using small niche VPNs that might be more trusted makes you stand out more.
This probably doesn’t matter does it? Because being spotted as a mulvad, airvpn, etc user doesn’t make you more of a target for anything.
I’m just taking a stab at this since I’m not entirely certain, but I would think that this would weaken you against fingerprinting since it depends on having many different semi-unique characteristics as you browse?
This ^
If you have 2 accounts on a website for example, you can be easily exposed if using a niche VPN. If on a more popular VPN, it’s not as likely as some other users probably use those as well
Realistically, on bigger websites it doesn’t matter as much - it would really depend on your config. You’re bound to be fingerprinted at some point anyways. It’s just too hard and too annoying to blend in.
At this point I believe we should just aim at randomizing our fingerprint every few seconds by sending BS rather than aiming to all have the same one
I don’t get how that’s relevant to what I said. That’s still something else
Your last sentence?
What you sent is to prevent your ISP (or government) from correlating your internet activity to your identity
What I’m talking about is preventing fingerprinting or correlating 2 sessions to the same website (the entity that tracks you is the website itself in this case)
Check out IVPN, I find the service very similar but they also offer reverse split tunneling (choosing what programs go through the VPN).
Mullvad has that now. It usually works.
I can’t find the announcement and this issue is still open, can you share your source? https://github.com/mullvad/mullvadvpn-app/issues/2808
My bad. I assumed this was about regular split tunneling, not inverse, which I had never heard of.
That’s not port forwarding though 🤔 but still a nice thing to have I guess
What do you use instead of Mullvad now?
https://airvpn.org/ is a great option that is still privacy friendly and allows port forwarding. Still niche if you care about that, so may not be for you.
Interesting option as well, but some problems :
- Not audited iirc
- Port forwarding leads to identification of the individual account, and facts about this aren’t really explained. They admitted than in case they receive a legal order against someone who has port forwarding, they must give the identity because they can get it.
- Sure, changing ports frequently is a way around this but meh, I’d like to know what they will provide if that happens
I’ll add that their servers are a bit slow (I have a gigabit connection) and they don’t have a server in my country
Going to get hate for it (justified), but NordVPN
Reasons: low price, and someone I know already had an account.
Could switch but most VPNs don’t have what I’m looking for (port forwarding), as well as IPs that often change and a solid userbase to mask traffic in smaller websites
Tested mullvad a few years ago and had some small connection problems, but the main issue was that it wasn’t usable in many websites due to their IPs being really abused (+ blocked from streaming services).
I don’t get why the second layer of Op iceberg is solutions having strong marketing budget. As far as I know (correct me if I’m wrong) Nord VPN has been audited by 3rd parties which confirmed its no-log policy. Also feel more anonymous when using a mainstream VPN because many users share the same IP. On the contrary if you use a VPN where only 2 users are on the same IP, seems easier to track you. Maybe I’m wrong but the hate for NordVPN does not seems justified.
The hate is mainly because they run current anti consumer techniques, such as:
- infinite fake sales (illegal is most countries)
- misleading fear mongering (VPNs don’t bring much security at all, and aren’t the only tool you need to achieve anonymity at all. Most people don’t need a VPN.) but this has some positive impacts: normies use VPNs so they become more accepted
- ultra aggressive misleading marketing: occasionally, false claims are made through sponsorships
They are also in a country where they can legally not provide any info to anyone (also in case of legal problem I believe), but it is a double edged sword, as it also means they can lie and sell our info and will never get sued over it
Such things makes it hard to trust, but the reality is they’re most likely fine to use because they already make a ton of money. They probably won’t risk to lose a business over this.
