For me AutoKey is absolutely essential to my workflow. I have tons of text expansions and shortcuts to “remap” keys. E.g., respectively, typing dAt
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, and pressing alt + k
simulates the arrow down key.
Secondly there’s XScreenSaver which has so many wonderful (mathematical) visualizations that it would be a damn shame if these eventually get lost as Wayland gets more adoption.
None of these have Wayland alternatives as far as I know. For text expansion there’s Espanso, but it doesn’t support keyboard shortcuts yet.
x11
i am not gonna go with any of the idiotchanges. lost me at systemd, flatpaks and so on
moronic people like lennard poettering and everyone at red hat are a desease.
i will start downgrading Iinux PCs to Windows10 just to not have any of the broken linux promises.
do ONE thing but do it right.
Oké grandpa, its time to take your meds
RHEL10 is probably a month away from being the first distro to ship without even the option of using Xorg. It is not even going to be in the repos.
Other distros will follow their lead.
If you are a fan of x11, not liking Red Hat makes sense.
GPU screen recorder, the hotkeys dont work in Wayland
This one should be getting resolved soon! With the new global shortcut portal
Strange, they do for me on Plasma Wayland.
Depends on your desktop environment. Works on KDE.
XMonad
The inability to roll windows up into just the title bar, or to get Firefox to place each of its windows on the same virtual desktop as before, are major annoyances. Otherwise, Wayland runs better than I expected.
Glxgears. :P I’m on wayland for a least 4 years
Hilarious. Is vkgears a possible replacement in your workflow?
autokey
I accomplish the same thing with compose sequences, and by binding a keyboard shortcut in my desktop to call a script with
wtype
. It’s not a cross-compositor solution though, as you’d have to manually setup binds in each of them.I don’t see much hope for this one-to-one unfortunately.
ydotool iirc
Same camp as wtype, you have to bind something to exec it.
Check out xremap https://github.com/xremap/xremap
Gnome. No shell restart on wayland, and not planned.
Pardon?
GNOME defaults to Wayland. GNOME 49 is going to remove X11 support all together.
Only new version default wayland, my version not. And not update. Until shell restart on wayland, not use wayland.
Couldn’t use xset to manually set some monitors to standby So I searched how to change it back to X.
Also you couldn’t set display variable to another computer’s ip address (a windows one running xming)
AwesomeWM, and xdotool.
That’s it. Oh and x-eyes of course
Have you tried ydotools, which works on both Wayland and X?
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There’s ydotool.
I find it’s not as reliable in targeting inputs, and you sometimes need to set the XDG_RUNTIME variable yourself.
wtype
is much better at this, but is limited to keystrokes
what do you use x-eyes for?
I don’t think that was entirely serious…
👀
https://www.x.org/releases/X11R7.5/doc/man/man1/xeyes.1.html
Xeyes watches what you do and reports to the Boss.
You might be interested in river as a awesome replacement:
Appreciate the link, and I don’t mean to sound so ungrateful, but that extensive README contains everything except what exactly
river
is. Is it a desktop manager? A standalone compositor? What does it fix? What does it replace? etc.Edit: Oh, it’s a tiling window manager, and all WMs in wayland have to be compositors.
New hyprland patch can do pretty much all the xdotool stuff since they added a send key to window thing
keepassxc’s autotype
also, nvidia
KeepassXC work fine on Wayland with xwayland
only with other x11 applications
There are still some quirks but it’s been generally fine for me with Nvidia, almost a year now.
i heard about that. sadly my gpu is so old the latest driver that supports it is the 470 driver
Hey, I’m in the same boat. Gigabyte GTX 670. Wayland was a sluggish mess, and same goes for nouveau with X11.
I bit the bullet after eight months of running Arch like this, and experimenting around with newer iGPUs in laptops, and bought a new radeon finally. Time to retire this ancient piece of tech.
670 is still better than nothing.
Hopefully it can find its way to someone else’s home on the cheap and still give them plenty of years of fun.
Well, you can hold onto that GPU for a little longer with X11. But it seems you’ll need an upgrade some time later. Though if you don’t game (aside from FOSS ones), Nouveau driver should do the job for your daily needs. However, it still needs time for Wayland.
the nouveau driver works fine except when it crashes for no clear reason after some hours of usage
Even on X11? I tried it on Wayland months ago to see its state and it was generally fine except gaming. Though the results still might depend on the card in use I guess.
Even on X11?
yup. i think it had something to do with video calls or screen sharing, which are essential at work
That makes sense. Nouveau isn’t mature for some use cases yet, even though they made a huge jump with NVK. Hardware upgrade might be closer than you think then.
Ubuntu 24.04s KDE Package. Have I borked something or when will it ask me about upgrading?
josm
Every time I build a new box or do an upgrade, I try selecting Plasma on Wayland from the login screen. Every time it doesn’t work, I select X11, and never think of it again for another six months to two years.
Must have been a long time since you built a box.
Two years, then the drive exploded a couple weeks ago and I rebuilt it just now. Doesn’t work out of the box, X11, does, so I’ve never looked into it.
Debian?
XFCE, mostly.
I’m using Wayland right now, but tentatively.
Right now there’s an issue in WoW where sometimes when I move my mouse and left-click, the camera jumps to a different position, usually trying to look up.
Only happens on Wayland and it’s fixed temporarily by switching between windowed and fullscreen mode. The problem comes back sometimes when alt-tabbing and refocusing the game.
There was a bug in KDE recently where some menus weren’t properly appearing on Wayland, but that seems to have been fixed after my latest update.
Tentatively? X11 is dead.
You could not be more wrong. It is well alive and still kicking.