1hr+ for a general update* (following the guide. Pre-kernel)

On a more serious note, gentoo is fun… On competent hardware. This is a 4 core Celeron N2940 with 4gb of RAM.

*emerge --ask --verbose --update --deep --changed-use @world is too long to type…

  • @[email protected]
    8•5 months ago

    I’ve tried Gentoo with a fork (Sabayon Linux). It was all good and fun until I’ve hit huge build times, especially by kernel updates.

    If you like living on the cutting edge version of packages, then just use Arch or any derived distro

  • @[email protected]OP
    31•5 months ago

    Weather update. 2hr20min. Terminal output hasnt updated since I posted. Close to giving up for the night. (If it STILL hasnt moved in the morning, ill just start again then)

    • @[email protected]
      9•5 months ago

      You might have run out of memory. Linking in particular can require lots of RAM, and if you run out, the entire machine will freeze.

  • @[email protected]
    4•5 months ago

    I just run updates overnight and its never an issue. I’m also running Gentoo on my 5800X3D with 64GB RAM so compilation is generally fast.

  • @[email protected]
    14•5 months ago

    That netbook is not what I would consider a ThinkPad. And distro wise, is crunchbang still a thing? Something simple with openbox or max xfce would probably be a smart choice. This thing won’t be fun for builds or other compute heavy tasks. For browsing the web and chats it’s probably fine

  • @[email protected]
    2•5 months ago

    bash.org is gone and I can’t find a reliable way to search its replacements, but there was a quote on there that said something like “I love Gentoo. You can sit back and it’ll look like you’re a badass hacker but in reality you’re just installing xchess or something.”

    • @[email protected]English
      3•5 months ago

      bash.org is gone and I can’t find a reliable way to search its replacements

      https://bash-org-archive.com/

      https://www.google.com/search?q=site%253Abash-org-archive.com+gentoo

      That turns up four quotes with “gentoo”.

      The closest, I think, is:

      https://bash-org-archive.com/?464385

      <@insomnia> it only takes three commands to install Gentoo
<@insomnia> cfdisk /dev/hda && mkfs.xfs /dev/hda1 && mount /
dev/hda1 /mnt/gentoo/ && chroot /mnt/gentoo/ && env-update &&
. /etc/profile && emerge sync && cd /usr/portage && scripts/
bootsrap.sh && emerge system && emerge vim && vi /etc/fstab &&
emerge gentoo-dev-sources && cd /usr/src/linux && make
menuconfig && make install modules_install && emerge gnome
mozilla-firefox openoffice && emerge grub && cp /boot/grub/
grub.conf.sample /boot/grub/grub.conf && vi /boot/grub/
grub.conf && grub && init 6
<@insomnia> that's the first one

      I don’t know about Google’s site coverage, but it turns up one test quote that I remember:

      https://bash-org-archive.com/?5273

      <erno> hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds
to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in
my apartment it is.

      looks further

      This is supposed to be the entire archive:

      https://archive.org/details/bash.org.txt

      Grabbing it and unpacking it gives me 21,096 text files, one for each bash.org quote.

      $ grep -i gentoo * -l|wc -l
13
$

      So Googlebot’s index of bash-org-archive.com probably isn’t complete; it got a quarter of the hits. However…

      $ grep -C500 -i gentoo *

      …doesn’t appear to turn up anything that looks like your quote.

      My guess is that you might have seen it on another site.

      • @[email protected]
        3•5 months ago

        Your diligence is appreciated. I’m familiar with bash-org-archive and qdb.lol; the problem is searching them. I hadn’t considered looking through them locally, but it’s a good idea.

        Admittedly I am fallible, so it isn’t impossible I saw the quote elsewhere, but more likely I’m misremembering the quote referencing Gentoo. Perhaps it was about Arch or even just generally about compiling software. I’m pretty sure the quote referenced xchess, so perhaps that would be more helpful to grep.

        Either way, thank you for making the effort to find it.

      • @[email protected]
        2•5 months ago

        I think that’s more for when you have multiple machines (that would use the same USE flags) and you only want to have to compile once. OP’s use-case re: binary packages would be more about getting them from somebody else (i.e. a public binhost that already exists) so he doesn’t have to compile at all.

        • @[email protected]
          1•5 months ago

          I was suggesting using your own binhost as an alternative to distcc.
          If someone’s considering distcc, presumably they’ve already decided not to use the public Gentoo binaries, and want to do the compilation themselves

          I think that’s more for when you have multiple machines (that would use the same USE flags) and you only want to have to compile once.

          One issue with distcc is some of the build operations can’t be delegated. If you want to minimise resource usage as much as possible (e.g. on old hardware) and want to compile yourself, then running your own binhost makes sense.

  • @[email protected]
    30•5 months ago

    lol. i used Gentoo for 5 years or so. it’s the only distribution I don’t recommend.

    it assumes you have hours of CPU time to waste, and hours of your time to dispatch-config afterwords.

    do Debian or arch.