President Trump said he would talk to Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney about making Canada the 51st state. But the president said he didn’t expect it to get to the point of using military force — though he wouldn’t commit to the same for Greenland.
“Something could happen with Greenland, I’ll be honest,” Trump said in an interview with NBC News’ “Meet the Press” that aired on Sunday. He said that “we need that for national and international security,” but he added “I don’t see it with Canada. I just don’t see it.”
Why is he so obsessed with Greenland?
Natural resources perhaps?
Easy target from his perspective. Would draw Nato resources away from Ukraine, so his boss would be pleased.
When Trump does something incomprehensibly useless from an American perspective, always ask “What’s in it for Putin?” and you may find you get answers.
Cause Peter Thiel (billionaire) wants to build a billionaire’s bunker there for the apocalypse.
Mineral resources, especially since the ice is melting. They don’t believe in global warming but they accept that the ice cap is melting. Then there are fishing rights around it. Finally it would control a chunk of the arctic ocean at a time when the north ice cap is melting.
Shipping routes will be there in the not-so-far future when the ice is gone.
They believe in global warming. They just say they don’t because they’re lying psychopaths who would kill millions for their own gain.
Theres a few reasons but it would be a huge military advantage, not that I agree with it
He probably thinks it’s actually green.
Americans aren’t doing anything about it. Just sitting there taking it. If you’re not doing anything to fight Trump then as far as I’m concerned you’re part of the problem.
Puerto Rico should be first in that line, followed by DC.
And Guam. And American Samoa. And US virgin islands. And mariana Islands.
And Gaza.
Marinara islands sound tasty
Technically Wolverine is Canadian
Technically? He’s Canadian
Damn right. Cause the US would deputize 40 million insurgents both in and out of Canada if they ever tried.
It would be a very stupid and long battle for nothing
We’d take so many with us. And we’d go full scorched Earth.
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We shall cry ‘Havoc!’, and let slip the geese of war.
Whatever farm animal of war Lana.
Threatening war on an ally, a member of the EU and UN; while helping the enemy.
That’s not what a russian asset would do…
The UN is not an alliance. Perhaps you were thinking of NATO?
Forcing the UN to split their forces between Ukraine and Greenland…
Totally not what a Russian asset would do.
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“Something could happen”? Motherfucker, you either make it happen or not. It’s not something that’s bestowed upon us from the sky
And y’know what? The US would still lose.
There is no way, in hell, that Trump plans on making Canadians into American citizens. Why would he add the equivalent of another California to the voting population. No Canadian will ever cast a vote in favor of the political party that took their country from them.
What version of statehood is he envisioning here?
The scariest part here is that the Republicans are acting, in every way, like they will never be subject to a legitimate vote again.
Making us citizens and giving us statehood are two different things, and I could see the former, but not the latter. Not that we would join willingly in the first place
Then he needs to stop calling it a 51st. A state can vote. A territory cannot.
Do US territories legit get no representation in government?
In Canada the territories are a riding, thus have a seat in Parliament (A massive one due to their small and spare population)
They get non-voting representatives in congress.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-voting_members_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives
No, only states do. Although territories have members in congress, they can’t vote on any legislation. They have a government set up by Congress and pretty much oversee themselves with no ability to influence elections or laws in the states. The last territory to become a state was Hawaii. Territories are land grabs, statehood comes after that.
Canada would unfortunately be a land grab for the resources and nothing else for Trump. It would be ravaged and the people of Canada would suffer greatly for it without an ounce of ability to do anything about it.
Let’s stop debating the details of a stupid plan. Trump deserves total, unreserved opposition, not submissive "well, actually…"s.
No, he deserves prison. In the special section for dementia. That’s not Canada’s job. Americans need to sort their stuff out, lock him up and stop looking for countries to come to their rescue while they let him threaten with annexing. And stop bending the knee. I mean cmon’ how spineless can one be?
Canada didn’t bend the knee. Not like America has to him and his whims. America already has its own congress, a senate and a judiciary system. So not sure what you’re expecting Canada to do at this point to fix a bumbling dementia riddled idiot for America who put him there in the first place and seem to have failed in their own system to remove him whilst all the while complaining about it.
This is an American failure. Not Canadian.
There is no way, in hell, that Trump plans on making Canadians into American voters
citizens.We’ll be like Guam or Puerto Rico.
There’s no way he was ever serious about it, but i can’t for the life of me figure out his plan. Only thing i can figure is that it was some kind of negotiation tactic involving Greenland.
And this is where you’re not paying attention. He is serious. He has always been serious. Canada’s leaders are taking the threat seriously, so why would you think he isn’t serious? He is unstable, and taking marching orders from Putin.
I need a lot more evidence before buying into wild conspiracy theories about our top level of government being compromised by foreign countries. Canadian politicians are not taking it seriously except for how they can leverage it to their benefit. Carney won because of it, so I can’t blame him.
It literally is not a conspiracy. Trump is saying he is serious. Multiple govt officials in Canada are taking it seriously. Just because you refuse to believe an insane person would do something insane, doesn’t make it a conspiracy.
That’s because they know the fix is in. Here are the receipts
https://sdvoice.info/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-here-are-the-numbers/
The scariest part here is that the Republicans are acting, in every way, like they will never be subject to a legitimate vote again.
I thought that’s the plan?!
It’s only rumours so far, but according to the new president nobody is going to vote ever again, soo
Because Putin promised Canada to him, in exchange for Alaska.
And you only care what the people think if you think they can hold you accountable in some way. Without elections, and with the largest military in history willing to fire on American citizens, the opinion of the people is irrelevant.
They already answered this question. They would use procedural rules to prevent Canadian votes from mattering, the same as they have done in the US in many states.
US could do that, sure.
But I bet it’d quickly find out just how much of its power, safety and bravado is due to being located in a geographically safe and isolated area with no real hostile armies trying to end them from the other side of the border.
Just how much of that willingness to fight comes from invading foreign underdeveloped territories across the sea, with little chance for the fight to make its way back to US cities and US civilians.
Easy to start fights from the comfort of a distant home, sending only military lives into the far away battlefield.
Something Europe, Asia, Africa and the Middle East can’t claim, as they have to contend with potentially bad neighbors due to all sorts of reasons.
Go ahead, poke the bear, FAFO.
This is the real story of American ‘exceptionalism’ Its how the US was able to accrue so much wealth during WW2.
Its easy to sit on the sidelines when you’re geographically isolated and not #1 though. The world order has changed (in fact they’re the ones who reshaped it) and now they are desperately trying to force their way back to the 1950s because they had unbelievable leverage and a incrediblely disproportionate share of global wealth following the war.
In fact, I believe that’s in part why we’re seeing a backslide in human decency. A lot of less educated folk see that their parents and grandparents were more prosperous when they were racist, misogynist and transphobic and are acting as if going backwards in that regard will bring back the ‘good times’.
Trump doesnt care. In fact he’d welcome an invasion on his soil to attack the dems. Saves him from trying to convince the military to arrest citizens for not bending the knee.
Bullies don’t attack people they’re scared of.
Located between the U.S., Russia and Europe, Greenland is viewed as a strategic position for both economic and defense purposes, with melting sea ice opening up new shipping routes through the Arctic.
Shipping from the U.S. to Europe can only be made more inefficient by heading up towards Greenland. The only way it could be more efficient is if the U.S. took over Canada and was trying to directly trade with Russia without Europe being in the way. An attack on Greenland should be seen as an attack on Canada and all of the EU/UK
The only way it could be more efficient is if the U.S. took over Canada and was trying to directly trade with Russia without Europe being in the way.
Exactly.
Trump sounds more like Putin every hour.
If we need Greenland so bad how is it we’ve been just fine leaving them the fuck alone since forever?
The claim we need it for safety and security is bs considering we have probably more service members there than there are people in Nuuk.
Its all about minerals, which we have no claim to. If Greenland were a territory, the federal government would have full control over the entire thing. US territories are modern day colonies basically
Other real (albeit idiotic) reasons might include Putin feeding Trump the idea of the US having control of the newly ice-free Northwest Passage, or just a sheer megalomaniacal desire to secure his legacy via territorial expansion.
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It’ll become more and more important as the north pole melts.
