Mirror: https://files.catbox.moe/d8n67r.mp4
Aftermath: NSFL https://files.catbox.moe/avxngn.mp4
The passengers of Prigozhin’s plane are two of his closest associates and veterans of the Syrian Wagner campaign
The Federal Air Transport Agency has published a list of passengers who were allegedly on board the crashed plane of Yevgeny Prigozhin . We found out who they were.
✈️ Valery Chekalov is one of the Concorde managers closest to Prigogine. He oversaw all of Prigozhin’s “civilian” projects abroad and was responsible for the logistical support of the Wagner group. It was Chekalov who headed JSC Neva, the founder of Euro Polis LLC, to which all Syrian and African projects were tied
✈️ Dmitry Utkin . Prigozhin’s right hand in the Wagner PMC. Responsible for command and combat training.
✈️ Yevgeny Makaryan , call sign “Makar”. Former precinct. He joined Wagner in March 2016 . He was part of the fourth Wagner assault detachment in Syria, which came under fire from American aircraft near Khsham in January 2017.
✈️ Sergey Propustin , call sign “Kedr”, ensign. He joined Wagner in March 2015. He fought in the second reconnaissance and assault detachment. Prigozhin recruited many personal guards from there.
✈️ Alexander Totmin , callsign “Tot”.
✈️ Nikolai Matuseev . We could not find a person with that name on the Wagner lists. But there is Nikolai Matusevich . At Wagner since January 2017. He served as a shooter in the fourth assault detachment in Syria.
Meanwhile, Prigozhin’s wife Lyubov continues her long-planned vacation in India , says a Dossier source familiar with the family.
We do not know whether the information about the death of Yevgeny Prigozhin and Dmitry Utkin can be trusted. But if it is confirmed, it will mean that fewer and fewer people remain alive who are familiar with the circumstances of the murder of Russian journalists in the Central African Republic in 2019. We appeal to the employees of Prigozhin’s “Company”: if you know any details of the crime in the Central African Republic, contact the “Dossier” Center and tell your story. We will not be in debt.
How did Prigozhin not see something like this coming?
It is my understanding that missiles fly at a high rate of speed and are difficult to see as they approach.
And remember from the missile’s perspective:
The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn’t. By subtracting where it is from where it isn’t, or where it isn’t from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn’t, and arriving at a position where it wasn’t, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn’t, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn’t.
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In shreds
To shreds you say, tsk tsk tsk. Well, how’s his wife holding up?
Also to shreds
I already read a report that there were 2 planes, of which the 2nd returned after the incident… I’m curious if he was on the 1st (shot down) plane or the 2nd.
When he was in the 2nd and survived things could ‘get interesting’ in Russia.
May Putin live in interesting times.
@Wilshire We do not know if the monster is dead. It was on the passenger list, but we don’t know if it actually was on the plane.
Prigozhin might have staged it. I don’t know how likely that is. Even if his corpse gets identified by the russian liars - do we believe this? Let’s wait and get more information.What would be the point of staging it? I’m not denying that there is a possibility, just don’t see a reason for him to do it
If people think you are dead, you’ve got better chances of not falling out of a window.
Yes, he’s “reportedly” dead, but we may never know since his body was burned. I thinks it’s 50/50.
Would’ve been so easy for Putin to assassinate him but of course they take the route involving murdering a bunch of random civilians alongside him and potentially endangering more on the ground
these people were top command of wagner
How many brigades were the pilots in charge of?
considering that putin killed a few thousands of russians (civilian and military) just to get presidency (in apartment bombings and then in second chechen war), this is practically as humanitarian as it gets for their standards
Yes, he’s a callous and uncaring person. I meant it literally when I said “of course” this is how he would go about it. It was just an observation, not a statement of surprise.
Who is to say those pilots weren’t Wagner as well?
I very much doubt that the people on the private plane with that guy were chosen completely at random.
There’s a difference between a Mafia boss and his limo driver. Maybe they aren’t scott free but they aren’t the ones murdering people.
5 of the people listed including Prigozhin were literally responsible for helping in killing, with one of them being his right hand man.
Allegedly, of course. The pilots were maybe the limo driver, but the whole mafia was sitting in back.
The whole Mafia could literally be arrested/assassinated at any time. Putin has thousands of thugs that he could devote to taking out every last Wagner leader if he wanted to. Or just flat out arrest them for bullshit charges and kill them in jail etc. This wasn’t some once in a lifetime opportunity.
Instead we have 3 crew members of a commercial airplane, who could’ve been any “random civilians”, and potentially another family or 2 if that plane crashed into a house/market/etc.
I’m not expressing surprise that “of course” Putin takes this callous and expedient approach, because that’s who he is. It’s just an observation of a sad reality.
You have to remember that Putin is trying to play the media fiddle.
He could probably get away with assassination of his biggest threats, but that wouldn’t be media friendly.
Everyone assumes Putin shot the plane down, but there is no conclusive evidence, so he is still not the bad guy.
The plane he was on was a civilian travel plane, but it is also not a public airliner. The people on board were all very likely aware of the dangers of being transported with the Russian leader’s most recent mutiny subject on board.
To assume they just boarded a plane randomly is a big stretch. That’s like saying you hopped on Taylor Swifts airplane and didn’t realize she was on it.
Putin is way more willing to put the lives of his own people at risk to portray a certain picture to the global media. Which yes, I agree is a sad reality.
And nothing of value was lost
The “second angle” linked is of a different aircraft. The first video may be a Legacy 600 but the second looks like a twin turboprop of some kind- Saab 2000 or similar.
Removed, thank you.
New rumor: its possible Prigozhin wasn’t actually on the plane.
Apparently he frequently registers for one plane, then boards another one, for personal security reasons.
Sources
Masto: https://nafo.uk/@hanse_mina/110940183602758010
Telegram: https://t.me/bbbreaking/163418
It’ll be interesting to see how the Russian military tries to save face if he survived.
Off the top of my head: prigozhin crashed his own plane so he could blame it on us. Seems like something they would do
The Wagner group confirmed he was killed
A bomb is much, much more efficient than a missile. I’d be very surprised if a missile was used. Also, it would be unlikely for both him and Utzin to be on the same plane, for exactly this reason.
It’s going to be hard to unpack all these rumors for a few days unless we see a living Utzin or Prigozhin soon. A strong possible narrative here would be Utzin selling out his boss in exchange for amnesty, in which case it behooves him to disappear.
Edit: notice we don’t see a missile exhaust trail to the aircraft and a burst pattern for one in the start of the video. With the war on, there are plenty of videos showing a missile strike on an aircraft to compare to.
The smoke trail on the left at the start of the video was reported to be from the missile. There are a few photos that claim to show damage from an S-300 missile. However, I’ve heard rumors about a box of wine that was gifted to them before takeoff, and another about unusual plane maintenance.
I’ve updated the title to reflect the current level of uncertainty.
Also this:
a box of wine
You mean, like, Franzia?
Okay with the last picture I’m upping my suspicion of a rocket a bit more.
The Wagner group confirmed the information
Well now isn’t this surprising news that nobody could have seen coming lol
I figured he was going to be killed but my bet was on the old “fell from a window”
Yep truns out a missile up the old exhaust pipe on landing is real bad for your health
Oh, THAT’S what air defense doing.
Dammit you beat me to this joke hahaha
Woah!
What country did this happen in? He was previously sticking to Belarus, Russia, and Africa.
He should have left Russia completely, when he had a chance
The private jet belonging to Prigozhin was shot down by Russian air defence while flying from Moscow to St Petersburg this is from grey zone a Wagner affiliated telegram channel
“The Embraer Legacy 600 business jet with registration number RA-02795, which belonged to Yevgeny Prigozhin, was shot down by air defense fire in the Bologovsky district of the Tver region.
TASS reports that it happened in Tver Oblast northwest of Moscow.
How can you tell whose plane it is?
The transponder.
OK thanks, it looks like it was confirmed by multiple sources. Now about who shot it down: are we sure it was Russian military?
You tell me: https://streamable.com/8mfd8r
Let’s be honest, this is just for show and Prigo is still alive somewhere in Africa.
Yup jumped into the BBC soon as I saw the thread, seems to be the case; guess we know what air defense doing.
