• @[email protected]
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    “Do your research” is a dogwhistle and of course what it really means is “Google what you want to be true and read all the shit from morons like you who agree with you.”

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    To be fair, food is a significant contributor to the existence of adults. And we all know those are problems.

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        332 months ago

        On one hand, food gave us Hitler. On the other, that dude actually killed Hitler. So…

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        Unfortunately, this is simply not true. There are some sick teenagers out there…

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          Would you say they’re pedophiles if they’re children themselves? At the end of the day you are raised not gifted intelligence.

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            102 months ago

            If a 17 wants to fuck an infant they’re a goddamn pedophile.

            Jesus Fucking Christ, take off your fedora.

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              This is where we get into the worse debatable territory. Is a 17 year old an adult because if you say yes a lot of pedophiles will love you a lot more now. How about 16 if we can go down to 17 why not just go below, say a 14 year old should understand enough. Hell if you teach a 12 year old properly they should know enough to be treated this way as well they might just not know how terrible they are. See why it’s important to make the distinction between child and adult? So I’m going to ask again is a 17 year old an adult to you?

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                Pedophiles won’t be attracted to 14 year olds. Pedophiles are only sexually attracted to kids before they reach puberty. Most 12 year olds are safe from pedophiles for biological reasons.

                It’s not the pedophiles you have to guard your adolescents against – it’s sexual predators. And you cannot just assume someone is safe only because they turned 18 and lost all legal protection.

                So, are 17 year olds adults?

                Biological speaking, yes, and for a couple of years already.

                Culturally speaking, no, and they’ve got a couple of years to go before they become adults – there was a reason why comming of age used to be at 21, not 18.

                They are in between biological adulthood and cultural adulthood.

                There is a term for this stage of life: adolescence.

                17 year olds are neither children nor adults. They are adolescents, adults in training.

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                  If you don’t then you ignore everything we have been for and throw yourselves to the nature state because you can undermine law whenever you feel like it. This doesn’t matter until you realize the law is the only thing holding us back from killing each other. Go search up jury selection and understand even they cannot have any level of bias to the case.

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                Dude the devil doesn’t need an advocate and you’re making everyone here uncomfortable by being so damn obtuse, and to what end? Does this give you dopamine or something because there are far better ways to get that.

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              12 months ago

              But if I, a 30 year old want to fuck a 17 year old, would I not also be called a pedophile? But if an 80 year old wanted to fuck me, he wouldn’t be?

              Define your terms of you end to be ableto communicate.

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    What annoys me is that “doing your own research” actually makes sense in a lot of contexts. Our modern politics driven news is 90% bullshit and you’re better off fact checking everything they say by looking at reliable sources and tracing the origin of dubious claims. But these people have ruined that by acting like “do your own research” means “blindly trust some guy with a podcast who tells you what you want to hear.”

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      When someone says that they usually want you to do their research, i.e. Find arguments supporting their claim because they’re too stupid or lazy to communicate them. They don’t actually want you to do the objective scientific research,they don’t even want you to do a “Facebook research” on groups that don’t align with their views.

    • Phoenixz
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      I hate when people use the word “research” because most people think it’s reading a Facebook page.

      Real research requires nyears of studying to actually understand the subject before advancing the field. It requires sometimes year or decades of meticulously measuring and registering data, all while ensuring bias stays out of the data.

      To 99% of people it’s spending 5 minutes to find the right Facebook page that will confirm their preconceptions…its gross

  • @[email protected]
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    172 months ago

    If you choose to give your kids deadly food, that’s your problem

    Also, we’re nominating a Director of HHS and a Surgeon General who will be adding corn, wheat, and rice to the Controlled Substances List.

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      I think that this is the thing that’s starting to really get me about this crowd. The pure unashamed hypocrisy and contradictions, accompanied by zero self reflection or awareness.

      “I love freedom of speech and expression! Now shut up and get out of my sight, gay people.” “I care so much about the kids, so I’m supporting politicians that want to marry and fuck them.” “I can’t stand these feminazis acting like all men are ok with rape, now excuse me while I listen to the latest sermon from Andrew Tate.” “I’m sick of DEI ruining my precious meritocracy. That’s why I’m voting for an ex reality TV star to be my president and why I’ll defend him putting a news reader in charge of the military.”

      I feel like I could actually go on and on and on with more examples of this if I really tried. And I know that we’re supposed to be kinder to these people or some shit, so that they don’t crap in their nappies and their temper tantrums and vote for even bigger pieces of shit next time. But at this point, tell me, how does one view these people as anything other than cruel, profoundly fucking stupid hypocrites?

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        how does one view these people as anything other than cruel, profoundly fucking stupid hypocrites?

        Unfortunately, by also viewing them as victims. Humanity was not ready for the internet or multi-billion dollar media conglomerates, horizontally integrating across almost all sources of information in an endless stream of emotionally manipulative and intellectually degrading “content”.

        Many of these people are profoundly fucking stupid hypocrites, but they weren’t born that way, they were made. Either as byproducts of greed seeking “engagement” and attention, and/or direct products of a deliberate decades-long effort to push society to the tipping point that it is facing right now.

        A handful of powerful individuals and faceless corporations have manufactured the consent of the masses by dismantling and weaponizing education and communication.

        They are responsible for taking fringe, outdated elements of society - people that are usually ignored, shunned, or left behind in times of progress - and instead gave them a platform, legitimacy, power, and a sense of community.

        People like this were always a part of humanity, but it isn’t natural for there to be so fucking many of them all at once, all in one place. It usually requires incredible societal upheaval, like the aftermath of a “war to end all wars”.

        But in the modern day? All it took was a steady influx of fear and hatred, experimentally perfected over the lifetime of radio, TV, and finally the internet.

        All delivered by Murdoch, Koch, Zuck et al through the mouthpieces of complicit bastards like Limbaugh, Hannity, and Tate.

        Always remember who the real problems are.

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    Some of those foods include peanuts which are fine for most people but are deadly for others.

    Also, some American companies have created some lab grown food that seems revolutionary, but still lacks long term health testing.

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    We live in a free society and this is one of the costs of freedom. I may not agree with their choices but I respect their ability to make it.

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      I’d agree with you if it weren’t for herd immunity and immuno compromised people. It’s like allowing people to drive cars with old, dry, tnt bombs if they feel like it, they’re not the only ones who will get hurt for doing something stupid.

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        It’s just Darwinism at it’s finest. As a species, the increase in brain matter/intelligence led to the survival of Homo Sapiens. Homo Sapiens with higher intelligence can pass those traits to their offspring, and are more likely to be able to rear their offspring to the point of adulthood. Homo Sapiens with lower intelligence are less likely to successfully breed and rear children to adulthood. Science doesn’t doesn’t give a fuck about the innocence of the offspring.

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          Actually, it’s the less intelligent humans that are doing the pro-creating these days. The smarter ones know the perils of raising kids in today’s world economically, politically and environmentally and are choosing not to.

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          Your immuno-compromised kid or spouse - who can’t get a vaccine - may die as a result too.

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          So parents should be allowed to kill their kids?

          Like in the example a parent is free to decide for a child that food is bad for them, and even when the child dies of starvation it is no problem because it should be seen as an expression of the parents freedom to choose to do so?

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              Sure it’s kind of a crazy example… But it is not as ridiculously far removed as you think from parents choosing to let their kids die of preventable diseases.

              It really just comes down to the fact that you think it’s a part of the parents freedom to withhold something that could prevent their child’s needless death at no cost.

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                It is their choice as it is their child. Not your child and not your choice. It’s not what i think, it’s reality. It’s not the choice i would make but that is also irrelevant.

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                  So you agree that you think parents should be allowed to kill their children as an expression of their freedom.

                  Now I’m curious where you draw the line? Anyways now that we’ve cleared that up I’m blocking the hell out of you cuz… Yikes

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    I was talking to a new friend who is a nurse yesterday, and she told me she worked in peds a bit last year during a measles outbreak in my city, during which one child died. She said she has never seen sicker children in her life, they were all unvaccinated, and that they all went home having lost so much ground. She says half the parents were just victims of disinformation but that many of them were super obnoxious.

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      Now there is serious evidence that the covid19 virus came from a lab originaly. We are in ww3. People should vaccinate their children from measles. This is the fog of war. The state is not your friend. The cheeze burger clown and ol sleepy Joe were terrible leaders. If you are sick of everything just know this is just the beginning. https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/06_iran_strategy.pdf You will in your lifetime see the American imperialist empire drop nukes on civilian population.

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        This isn’t a discussion about where the virus comes from, and debating its source is entirely different than debating the science of effective treatment and vaccines. Promoting unproven horse ointments while speaking lies about proven treatments kills people.

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      Interestingly, I have some nurses in the family and the rate at which people who are educated in healthcare, are anti-vax, is too damned high.

      Which isn’t to imply its a lot of people, but any nonzero amount of people, working in healthcare, who buy into anti-vax propaganda, is too many. You’ve been formally taught about this stuff. Yet, you’re anti-vax because some person on Facebook/Twitter/whatever, fed you some bullshit about the “dangers”?? Wow. What the actual fuck.

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        62 months ago

        My sister left a really great hospital job (radiology tech) due to the vaccine mandates. Some people are so smart and yet so dumb.

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    If you want to be really pissed, read up on doctor disgraced former doctor, lifelong charlatan and grifter Andrew Wakefield. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield

    He abused autistic kids in a medical experiment that was meant to convince both the public and the scientific community that a specific combined vaccine (measles-mumps-rubella, a.k.a MMR) could trigger some kind of bowel disease that causes autism, all so he could peddle his own alternative that is three separate shots.

    • Lucien [he/him]
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      And here’s the kicker: he did that because he was financially invested in the company producing the older, separate vaccines.

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    This is dumb and only further alienates two groups who don’t get along.

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      112 months ago

      Trying to find common ground between the rational and the batshit insane, is a futile endeavor.

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      You say that, but I found this to be the perfect analogy to show to my wife to help her understand my take on the absurdity of her mother’s objection to me getting our children vaccinated.

      Worked like a treat.

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      You mean the one group who understands science and the other group that refuses to understand science and insists they know better than the experts and the studies that have been done?

      I don’t think there’s any common ground for those 2 groups.

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    I mean, this level of Darwinism would be fine. What grates me is not recognizing the effect it has on others.

    Still seeking an analogy where not eating food somehow puts a neighbor or classmate at risk of starvation.

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      I stopped at a stop sign and somone almost rear-ended me. Had I driven through, I would have been safe. There is no reason to stop at stop signs. Other people can stop if they choose to, but the government can’t force me to risk a rear-ending in order to protect someone else. Jesus wouldn’t let me get T-boned in an intersection, I’m covered in his blood.

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      Because food is dangerous, we’ve taken steps to ban supermarkets which distribute food.

      Only a select few strictly regulated supermarkets will be allowed to distribute food.

      We know some communities may struggle with reduced or no access to food because of this decision. However we deem this imperative in order to have a strong and healthy country.

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      I feel like it’s very perpetrated by Americans, and Americans are very self-centered individualistic

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      Herd immunity is pretty important.

      The first of the crazy parents who went anti-vax benefitted greatly from Herd immunity. Now enough of them are not vaccinating that the herd immunity is basically non-existent. So we get things like measles outbreaks.

      There are people who are medically incapable of getting vaccinated, like those with compromised immune systems (some might be in treatment for cancer)… And their best defense is if all of us, who can be immunized, are immunized.

      Cancer treatments are not the only immunocompromising thing that can happen and not all immunocompromised people have cancer specifically… For the record.

      Anyone who is anti-vax should be aware that they are actively and intentionally putting other people at risk and that should be strongly and thoroughly documented; so when they bring in a cold/flu/COVID/measles/whatever preventable disease to the school and someone else’s kid dies as a result the grieving family has the ability to sue them into poverty.

      They deserve worse, but legally, I can’t condone that… But if someone wanted to take a page from a particular person named Luigi, I would be hard pressed to find a good reason to pursue any charges against them.

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      To quote from Wiktionary:

      夫有以饐死者,欲禁天下之食,悖;有以乘舟死者,欲禁天下之船,悖;有以用兵喪其國者,欲偃天下之兵,悖。

      It is nonsense to forbid the world’s people to eat just because one person has choked to death when eating; it is nonsense to put the world’s boats in disuse just because someone has drowned while sailing; it is also nonsense to eliminate the world’s military forces just because one sovereign has lost his state due to his military action

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    True, I usually refer to something similar: Do you know how many people die in bed every year? Perhaps we should ban beds.