Pretty much the title. Where’s the hate towards Manjaro coming from? I was pretty much a Ubuntu/Fedora user for years but never got too technical. Used almost always gnome, but recently got interested in tiling wm and have done some searches and stumbled upon the Manjaro Sway edition and everything works quite well, but I keep seeing people bashing on Manjaro and I don’t know exactly why. So if I were to use sway in Arch or Arco (way friendlier to install) if there any simple way to replicate the makeup sway default configuration?

Thank you all for your time.

  • @[email protected]
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    72 years ago

    I’ve used Manjaro for a while and my system broke twice in that time just by updating my system (And with “broke” I mean it didn’t boot anymore). Then I switched to EndeavourOS and I haven’t had that issue once. Been using that for over 2 years now.

  • IAmHeroForFun
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    I use arch because i like to do research mess with things and is fun, manjaro that’s what i would suggest anyone moving to Linux it’s just that good of a distro to use and mostly sre trolls so let them be.

  • @[email protected]
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    62 years ago

    I’ve never used Manjaro but the perception I get from it is that it is a noob friendly distro with good GUI and config (good) but then catastrophically fails when monkeying around with updates and the AUR. This is a pain for technical users and a back-to-Windows experience for the people it’s targeted towards. Overall, significantly worse than EndeavorOS or plain 'ol vanilla Arch Linux.

  • UnfortunateShort
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    There are multiple types of people “hating” Manjaro to various degrees.

    There are the “It GoEs AgAinsT ThE ArCh PhiLoSopHy” guys - those you should ignore without a second thought. Because duh, that’s why it’s its own distro and not Arch. They probably also hate Endeavor, Garuda and all the other great Arch based distros and have no idea what they are talking about.

    There are the ones who, like myself, tried Manjaro briefly, realized there was something broken right out of the box, thought “lol stable my ass” and then invested way too much time in Arch on another distro. You should ignore us as well.

    There are the ones who at least claim to have proberly used Manjaro for a while and say there is no noticeable benefit, if not disadvantages. They might have a point (shout out the the guy or gal who mentioned their frequent certificate fails lmao).

    And finally there are those who have decided Manjaro just isn’t for them and moved on. They can probably give an actually balanced and fair review of Manjaro.

    But then again, there are also people maintaining and liking the project, so there seems to be at the very least some perceived value to it. Maybe it’s worth it, maybe it isn’t. Frankly, I don’t care whether people this distro. And why should I?

    I also don’t get why a couple dozen DEs exist, when I hate everything but Plasma and Cinnamon, maybe GNOME. But if people want to use them and go as far as to maintain them, there is probably a reason and I have better things to do than stop them.

    • @[email protected]
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      42 years ago

      Haha when I saw the cert issues it eroded any confidence I had; I wouldn’t say I know a lot, but I think I can keep a certbot up (unless it was running on Manjaro)

      • @[email protected]
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        22 years ago

        But what did you like about Manjaro compared to other distributions? If I introduce someone who’s never used the internet before to Internet Explorer 6, they might claim to like it very much as well.

        • @[email protected]
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          12 years ago

          I like the AUR and rolling-release model.

          It’s pretty much a pre-configured arch that’s easier to maintain.

        • muttley123
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          @BaconIsAVeg I agree with your statement. I liked Manjaro because it felt a little bit more faster on my potato PC and it that it looked nice (i know you can customize every distro to your liking, but I’m the kind of person that just uses the defaults). Before i used Fedora, Ubuntu 18.04 and Linux mint.
          For a few years now i am using openSUSE for my daily tasks and windows for some light gaming (i still have the same potato PC, but upgraded with SSD)

  • @[email protected]
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    -32 years ago

    Lots of people hate it just because it’s popular and accessible. Some of them are trolls, some of them are being trolled.

    All of them rely on lofty argument that have no real bearing for pragmatic use of the distro.

    I love Manjaro :)

  • @[email protected]
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    -22 years ago

    I tried it on pinephone and laptop. Both had 2 different updates break the OS. Both needed to be reinstalled each time.

    Not worth it. Poor quality. Go arch or OpenSuse.

  • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘
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    I use Monjaro at work for my airgapped laptop, because it was the only modern distro that didn’t use Xfce and worked on the T40. I don’t hate it, but I also can’t ever see myself using it as my daily driver. If you do use it as your daily and like it, cool. If you don’t use it or you hate it, cool. For me, all the different distros is the point of Linux, as it allows everyone to tailor the experience to their liking, while still being (mostly) compatibility with each other.

  • exu
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    182 years ago

    On mobile Linux, Manjaro is the reason dont-ship.it exists. They distributed untested and WIP GitHub patches to their users, which understandably broke stuff. And users would then go to the project to report bugs.

  • @[email protected]
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    I don’t necessarily hate Manjaro, but I do think people shouldn’t use it. Besides the things people have already said, Manjaro goes against the spirit of what Arch is supposed to be. Arch has everything you want and nothing you don’t. You set everything up for yourself so you know exactly how your system works and why X package is installed. You tailor the experience for yourself rather than having someone else tailor it for you. If you wanted that you could just use a distro meant for that in the first place like Fedora.

    But even if you really, really, want preconfigured Arch you could just use EndeavourOS. It uses the normal Arch repos and has basically none of the issues Manjaro has in terms of security and stability. There is not really any good reason to use Manjaro over it.

  • BKLronin
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    42 years ago

    In short, there have been key signing issues multiple times in the past that. That were the most notable problems from the user side.

    Running three instances with KDE that are unproblematic.

  • @[email protected]
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    22 years ago

    I don’t get it either. I’ve been using it on some older laptops because I wanted something lighter weight. It works well for me.

  • X3I
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    First of all, the settings: you can boot up a Manjaro machine and copy the .config/sway/config and whatever other files it might be referencing (another config in /etc maybe?). Then it is just a matter of installing the dependencies like the referenced themes and tools(= any programs listed for shortcuts) in there and you should be able to get the same setup, unless Manajro people set GTK themes outside of sway or sth… Feel free to comment once you hit that wall :)

    As to why Manjaro is widely criticized: they delay all updates by some time for a false sense of stability (I think two weeks) which is often considered to make no sense since it delays bugs, but also their fixes. Then there is some general philosophical disagreement between them and the Arch community since Manajro breaks Arch’s DIY and learning principles by being ready to use out of the box. This is mainly because they include all kinds of stuff which also makes the distro considered bloated. In the end, one big advice to give right from the start: searching for help in Arch forums as a Manjaro user is rarely tolerated, if you run Arco, your problem will likely be accepted though.

    Hope it helps!

    • jevans ⁂
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      The config is also split up into usr/share directories, too, if I remember correctly. I installed Manjaro sway on my laptop to get and Arch-based OS with sway on it installed quickly. Then I tweaked it to my liking over a few months and wanted the same setup on my desktop.

      It was a pain to transfer the config over to say the least, and then all the pixel perfect alignments I had done in waybar we’re broken on my desktop anyway.

      OP is better off putting together a new sway config from scratch, using the Manjaro install for reference if possible. Maybe spin up a VM to have both at the same time easily?

      • @[email protected]OP
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        22 years ago

        Thanks both of you for the tip on where the configa might lie, and specially the suggestion to spin up a VM an try to get it right there, that’s a great tip that didn’t occured to me, I’ll try it!

  • auth
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    The only reason I heard of people hating Manjaro is because of the main developer … But for me is because it breaks more often than Arch

  • @[email protected]
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    I thought Manjaro was great when I ran it (switched to Silverblue which works well for me).

    The only annoying thing was taking forever to update plasma one time.